Statistics...what are the deeper issues?

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin

I'd be happy if you just explained why there are 45 men and 5 women on this list.

Gee, I dunno - maybe because women are busy raising kids?

Besides, we're talking about a very small geographical & date-sensitive sample - 5 years ago in Houston, the numbers could have just as easily have been 30 men to 20 women...

Basing a reality around such a small statistical sample is like looking outside right now and claiming that Dallas is generally a rainy city...

[Usually Lurkin]

Originally Posted by Underdog

Gee, I dunno - maybe because women are busy raising kids?

there's an explanation.

Besides, we're talking about a very small geographical & date-sensitive sample - 5 years ago in Houston, the numbers could have just as easily have been 30 men to 20 women...

Basing a reality around such a small statistical sample is like looking outside right now and claiming that Dallas is generally a rainy city...

not really.
"Gender is the single best predictor of criminal behavior: men commit more crime, and women commit less. This distinction holds throughout history, for all societies, for all groups, and for nearly every crime category. The universality of this fact is really quite remarkable, even though many tend to take it for granted.
Read more: http://law.jrank.org/pages/1256/Gender-Crime.html#ixzz0I9O1KHSp&C"
http://law.jrank.org/pages/1256/Gender-Crime.html

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin

"Gender is the single best predictor of criminal behavior: men commit more crime, and women commit less. This distinction holds throughout history, for all societies, for all groups, and for nearly every crime category. The universality of this fact is really quite remarkable, even though many tend to take it for granted.
Read more: http://law.jrank.org/pages/1256/Gender-Crime.html#ixzz0I9O1KHSp&C"
http://law.jrank.org/pages/1256/Gender-Crime.html

Isn't there already a poster on this board named "Captain Obvious"?

Just because men commit more crimes doesn't mean they're motivated to commit those crimes simply because they're male - if that were the case, then there would be the same percentage of white men & black men (or rich men & poor men) in prison... Having a penis isn't why people are motivated to commit crimes (which is what you're flimsily implying...)

[Usually Lurkin]

Originally Posted by Underdog

Isn't there already a poster on this board named "Captain Obvious"?

Just because men commit more crimes doesn't mean they're motivated to commit those crimes simply because they're male - if that were the case, then there would be the same percentage of white men & black men (or rich men & poor men) in prison... Having a penis isn't why people are motivated to commit crimes (which is what you're flimsily implying...)

I didn't imply it. I asked you to explain it. To that end, "The women are busy raising babies" was better than "people commit crimes because they don't have stuff"

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin

I didn't imply it. I asked you to explain it. To that end, "The women are busy raising babies" was better than "people commit crimes because they don't have stuff"

Once again, you & I are having two different conversations...

"Women raising babies" is in response to your post, "people commit crimes because they don't have stuff" is in response to everyone else's posts in this thread...

I could care less about the disparity of female criminals compared to male criminals in a 50 person pool in Dallas, TX - I'm talking about criminal MOTIVATION (a word you can find a few times in my posts...)

I'm pointing at a problem and you're looking at my finger...

[Usually Lurkin]

Originally Posted by Underdog

I could care less about the disparity of female criminals compared to male criminals in a 50 person pool in Dallas, TX -

It's not just a 50 person sample. Sex is a bigger predictor of criminality than anything else.

I'm talking about criminal MOTIVATION (a word you can find a few times in my posts...).

great. Why are men more motivated than women? (If 'taking care of babies' is your only answer, then that's what it is.)

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin

It's not just a 50 person sample. Sex is a bigger predictor of criminality than anything else.

I don't understand why you're still playing the gender angle when it's obvious that financial standing is the primary motivation for crime...

Is a rich man more likely to mug someone than a poor woman?

I rest my case...

Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin

great. Why are men more motivated than women?

I have no idea why men are more motivated to commit crime than women - you'll have to ask God that one...

(although an evolutionist might tell you that it's because men have traditionally been the hunters of our species, therefore more inclined toward violence...)




Personally, I'm more interested in the racial angle of this discussion - men & women are wired differently by nature, whereas race is a division of culture (and culture is a choice, to a certain degree...)