06-24-2009, 10:42 PM
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SC governor admits affair, secret Argentina trip
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090625/...or_where/print
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Well gop fans, looks like another gop presidential hopeful just bit the dust. Two heavy, heavy hitters within the gop went down. I have already explained who John Ensign is. A very well liked republican and one to challenge Harry Reid, one to tell Larry Craig to step down. Now he was caught with his pants down.
Now today we have another heavy hitter within the gop. His name is Mark Sanford. I won't go into who he is but he was a sc gov.
When the gop party thought things could not get any worse, they do. Remember Allen from VA? He was going to be running against Obama instead of McCain and Webb had no chance untill he used a racial word. He was very high up in the gop and was expected pres. Well Va kicked him to the curb and elected Webb after that. Now it Is Ensign and Sanford.
I guess McCain, Rudy, Limp, Cheney, Liberman, Sarah Baracuda are all back in the mix and who knows, let's throw Jeb Bush in there also. Just remember this, you heard it here, even when you are picked to be the next pres and you mess up and then say well i am not leaving my sen seat, Vitter, Ensign or Gov, Sanford and even Allen sen, and even if you are living in a gop district or gop state, it isn't safe. Ask Allen.
I won't leave out the dem ny gov also, as he got caught with his britches down also but left and needed to. It's to much media people and if those britches are slipping off a lil to much, it's risky as media catches wind and they sniff it out. All of them, gop, dem, and whomever else need to keep them britches pulled up as the media loves these storiees and will sniff around finding more.
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06-24-2009, 10:53 PM
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I voted for Obama, and I'd commit a vote to Jeb Bush right now.
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06-24-2009, 11:19 PM
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Hm, seems sexual contacts play a major role in politicians lifes. ArenĀ“t there some good sports clubs in south carolina ?
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06-25-2009, 12:23 AM
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I'm not sure why so many are playing around now when the media loves these things and looks for them. It happens on both sides, dems and reps. W is doing the right thing, laying low and as Ensign, Sanford have fell off the wagon and Allen fell off, Jeb is looking better. Now will the public forget about the Bush/Clinton name and give them a chance? Not sure or they can say oh no another Bush and Clinton and say no way. It is hard to tell. W made it very hard on Jeb but we will have to see how things play out. It is along ways from the pres election and anything can happen but i predict Obama will beat any rep against him and beat him or her fairly easy. It is not so much one on one or rep against dem right now but the gop is losing their base daily. If the dem party keeps sweeping down from the northeast and starts to get more foot holds in states like nc, sc, ky, va, wv, and who knows about al, ms, tnand ga. Those states will be very hard for the dems to get a leg up.
The big news is NV, CO, IA and even McCains state of AZ is slipping and yes it is still gop but not as much as you think. Even places like nd and sd slipped alot and no they are not many electorial votes (sd and nd) but it makes the gop party have to work in places they never have had to before. Some of those were always automatic red states. NV, CO are huge and the dems are widening things in those red states and Ensign hurt bad. SC and NC along with VA will hurt bad also. SC has been red and was red last election but things like this makes it slip bluer.
The bigger picture as one party makes blunders of this nature, it gives the other party more clout in the places where the blunder happened. Most of the time and can filter into near by states of where the blunder occured. If i was a politician on either side, i would sure try to keep my britches up while i am in office.
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06-25-2009, 12:31 AM
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You are crazy if you think that things like this play into any electoral shift.
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06-25-2009, 09:00 AM
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Why is the rate of cheating so high amongst elected officials? What is it about public office that makes people go nuts with their privates?
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06-25-2009, 09:12 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flacolaco
Why is the rate of cheating so high amongst elected officials? What is it about public office that makes people go nuts with their privates?
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I wonder if it is higher than it is among other people.
But if it is, it might be:
1) ego. people in elected office love themselves. There might be a level of insecurity/need for approval that is related.
2) power and invincibility. They think that at the top of the rule-making heap, they can make the rules.
3) fame and power. may provide more opportunity than would otherwise exist
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06-25-2009, 11:27 AM
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Why do we have two threads on the same topic...can the moderators move this into the original thread?
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06-25-2009, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 92bDad
Why do we have two threads on the same topic...can the moderators move this into the original thread?
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They are different events. Why not move everything into one thread "basketball"? It's the same topic.
I'd say a guy who slept with with a married campaign worker while separated from his wife and this bizarre gone hiking and unable to be reached, Argentina email chippie story has enough angles to deserve a separate tread.
As far as this being a GOP issue, he'll get voted out. If he was a Dem he'd get reelected.
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06-25-2009, 12:28 PM
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As far as this being a GOP issue, he'll get voted out. If he was a Dem he'd get reelected.
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06-25-2009, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by aquaadverse
They are different events. Why not move everything into one thread "basketball"? It's the same topic.
I'd say a guy who slept with with a married campaign worker while separated from his wife and this bizarre gone hiking and unable to be reached, Argentina email chippie story has enough angles to deserve a separate tread.
As far as this being a GOP issue, he'll get voted out. If he was a Dem he'd get reelected.
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Look, I'm all for a multitude of threads, it helps to keep everything easy to find...but it appears that some moderators around like to combine threads for some reason.
Being as a thread has been started about the "Missing Govenor", the fact that he has been found and with some extra-marital activity is basically the same topic.
Much more the same topic than the recent activity by the mods to move a thread talking about USA victory over Spain into a random who's your futbal team thread.
But hey, I'm not a mod...if I were, I would allow many threads...seems to me that the mods are selective as to what is and isn't a double thread, but this is clearly as obvious of a double thread as I've seen on this board.
But hey, that's from the department of the obvious, unless of course your one of those moderators...as a disclaimer this doesn't reflect on ALL moderators, but as we don't know which moderators are making the random decisions, then you get lumped into one group. No doubt there are some high quality moderators who don't stoop to the low-class levels of other moderators, for you, I salute you!!!
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06-25-2009, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 92bDad
Look, I'm all for a multitude of threads, it helps to keep everything easy to find...but it appears that some moderators around like to combine threads for some reason.
Being as a thread has been started about the "Missing Govenor", the fact that he has been found and with some extra-marital activity is basically the same topic.
Much more the same topic than the recent activity by the mods to move a thread talking about USA victory over Spain into a random who's your futbal team thread.
But hey, I'm not a mod...if I were, I would allow many threads...seems to me that the mods are selective as to what is and isn't a double thread, but this is clearly as obvious of a double thread as I've seen on this board.
But hey, that's from the department of the obvious, unless of course your one of those moderators...as a disclaimer this doesn't reflect on ALL moderators, but as we don't know which moderators are making the random decisions, then you get lumped into one group. No doubt there are some high quality moderators who don't stoop to the low-class levels of other moderators, for you, I salute you!!!
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Off-topic, some?
You really should have created a new thread for this rant!
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06-25-2009, 01:57 PM
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I am so impressed that J_R didn't name the thread GOP/REPUBLICAN/NEOCON GOVERNOR ADMITS AFFAIR that I'm leaving it as is.
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06-25-2009, 02:48 PM
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I think Usually Lurkin hit the nail on the head with maybe why it seems more with elected officials. It has been reported and said it has always been very high thorugh out the years and not always reported untill later in life but remember the tabloids and media know the people and audience get off on this, so they are looking hard for the next official with his britches off. It sells, it brings an audience to them.
The dem gov from ny seemed to have gotten comphy with his prostitute and probably thought he was sneaking good. The same with John Edwards feeling he was probably hiding it. Ensign alot like Edwards but then i think she wanted money for her to stay quiet. The one that gets me scratching my head is Sanford. This guy was having probs at home and his wife and she knew and his family knew and instead of hiding it or being careful, this guy was off to trips to South America and wasn't careful at all. Almost like, please catch me.
Vitter was alot like the gov from ny and trying to be careful. It's hard to understand why they would take this huge a risk with their wife, kids and being an elected official but i think Usually Lurkin answered the why the best any of us could.
Any after this should know, stop now because the media loves it and sniffing around looking.
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