Postgame Game 1 Spurs@Mavs: 3 to go

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by xrobx

the regular-season FT record is 97, that actually spanned 2 seasons and his team didn't make the playoffs, i doubt the season+playoffs record would be higher than that

So another dozen free throws gives Dirk the record?

Icing...

[xrobx]

Originally Posted by Underdog

So another dozen free throws gives Dirk the record?

Icing...

well technically no, only regular season free throws count, i don't even think they keep a record of regular season + playoffs, so he still needs 24 next year to start the season, after we raise the championship banners of course

[particleman]

Originally Posted by xrobx

well technically no, only regular season free throws count, i don't even think they keep a record of regular season + playoffs, so he still needs 24 next year to start the season, after we raise the championship banners of course

I know this is true.. But it's also really f#cking stupid. Regular season plus playoffs is much more impressive to me than the last few weeks of a regular season in which you miss the playoffs plus the first few games of the regular season, SIX MONTHS LATER! If Dirk were to break that record during the pressure packed final few games of this season plus the first few games of the playoffs, they should put a damn exclamation point next to that number in the record books.

[aurelino9]

Originally Posted by particleman

I know this is true.. But it's also really f#cking stupid. Regular season plus playoffs is much more impressive to me than the last few weeks of a regular season in which you miss the playoffs plus the first few games of the regular season, SIX MONTHS LATER! If Dirk were to break that record during the pressure packed final few games of this season plus the first few games of the playoffs, they should put a damn exclamation point next to that number in the record books.

They count them separately for exactly that reason. Individual records make sense when all players have a level playing field to compete in. Aaron Brooks made the most 3 pointers in the NBA this season but Kidd may well pass his total if the Mavs go deep in the playoffs but Brooks shouldn't be penalized for being on a lottery team as far as individual record is concerned. That doesn't take diminish Kidd's achievement. Just that it makes sense to measure playoff accomplishments separately.

[particleman]

Originally Posted by aurelino9

They count them separately for exactly that reason. Individual records make sense when all players have a level playing field to compete in. Aaron Brooks made the most 3 pointers in the NBA this season but Kidd may well pass his total if the Mavs go deep in the playoffs but Brooks shouldn't be penalized for being on a lottery team as far as individual record is concerned. That doesn't take diminish Kidd's achievement. Just that it makes sense to measure playoff accomplishments separately.

Well I'm not an idiot. Regular season totals obviously should be counted separately. I was talking about streaks.

How would counting Dirk's free throw shooting streak as it continues into the playoffs make for an uneven playing field? You can still add to the streaks from the players who missed the playoffs this season as next season starts (I am not nearly as impressed by those kinds of streaks, but whatever). Your example is almost completely irrelevant to this discussion, aurelino9.

[Sportstudi]

I just were on Spurstalk and read (I didn't post any) some of those comments there. So many (but not all of them!) of those people are only bitching, whining and moaning about the calls Dirk got. It's ridiculous. If Manu had gotten those calls or even Tim, I'm sure they wouldn't say anything at all. If the Spurs had received 34 and the Mavs 14 (no, I won't subtract hack-a-damp now), everything would have been fair in their opinion... I'm sure a lot of those people would say that. Homers, just grow a pair.

I admit that Tim probably should have gotten a few calls more because of being banged in the post by Haywood/Damp. Yes, I'll give them that. At least some people didn't complain about those FT's Dirk got, but about some lack of FT's for SA. That's something I can accept way more. However, more FT's for Tim is not that much of a biggie, because his major weakness is FT-shooting.

But simply, if you touch a player on his arm while he's shooting, it's a foul. It doesn't matter if the shooter draws the contact or if he gets fouled intentionally. Contact on the arm equals a foul, period. And yes, Drk is good at drawing fouls. There is no difference rulebook for the playoffs and the regular season (some of the guys at ST came up with different ways handling fouls during RS and playoffs). IMO those people really need to read the rules again. The calls Dirk got were clear fouls. And the comparison to Wade in 2006 is a joke. Wade rammed the Elbow into Dirk and got a whistle, travelled and got a whistle etc... the list is endless.

[Sportstudi]

Originally Posted by Underdog

So another dozen free throws gives Dirk the record?

Icing...

Even if Dirk makes another 12 consecutive, sadly it won't officially count. The record only covers the regular season. I highly doubt that there is one covering RG + playoffs. If there is an inofficial one, I think Calderon has it with 92 (87 + 5).