Would you try to trade a Mav big man?

[PaRobful]

think so too. we could trade butler, think some teams are interested cause of his contract....but hopefully not. we have no chance for the championship this year, thats the reason, why we dont need a trade, I think.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by PaRobful

think so too. we could trade butler, think some teams are interested cause of his contract....but hopefully not. we have no chance for the championship this year, thats the reason, why we dont need a trade, I think.

Kobe is battling injuries, we match up well with the Spurs, we already beat the Heat twice and Caron Butler's production is easily replaceable - we have as good a shot as any team in the league right now...

GTFO with your weaksauce!

[dalger]

Originally Posted by Underdog

Kobe is battling injuries, we match up well with the Spurs, we already beat the Heat twice and Caron Butler's production is easily replaceable - we have as good a shot as any team in the league right now...

Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

I think that's the general idea when all pieces are rolling. Stevenson can set the table for Roddy and then move to the 3 when Marion needs to rest.

I'm afraid the scenario BG describes causes Underdog's assumption as it relates to our championship hopes to be less likely.

We could play Dirk around 38 minutes in the playoffs, let Marion back him up for 10 minutes and play him another 25 minutes at the 3. That would leave DeShawn to play 23 minutes at the small forward spot.

I'm not sure that's good enough to be a championship team. Our forward rotation wouldn't be as good as it was prior to Caron's injury, Marion and DeShawn would have to play out of position and we would be in major trouble with one of those three guys in foul trouble. Dirk has been in foul trouble before and it should happen to Marion and DeShawn as well due to them having to guard the other teams' best players.

Right now, I'm just "hopeful" we can win a ring with Dirk and Roddy back. Signing another small forward or combo forward would turn me into a "confident" fan.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by dalger

Right now, I'm just "hopeful" we can win a ring with Dirk and Roddy back. Signing another small forward or combo forward would turn me into a "confident" fan.

I think we can compete for a ring without making a trade.

I also think we'll trade Butler's contract before the deadline.

Do the math...

[BGMaverick9]

Originally Posted by dalger

I'm afraid the scenario BG describes causes Underdog's assumption as it relates to our championship hopes to be less likely.

We could play Dirk around 38 minutes in the playoffs, let Marion back him up for 10 minutes and play him another 25 minutes at the 3. That would leave DeShawn to play 23 minutes at the small forward spot.

I'm not sure that's good enough to be a championship team. Our forward rotation wouldn't be as good as it was prior to Caron's injury, Marion and DeShawn would have to play out of position and we would be in major trouble with one of those three guys in foul trouble. Dirk has been in foul trouble before and it should happen to Marion and DeShawn as well due to them having to guard the other teams' best players.

Right now, I'm just "hopeful" we can win a ring with Dirk and Roddy back. Signing another small forward or combo forward would turn me into a "confident" fan.

Saying the forward rotation wouldn't be as good as it was prior is pretty obvious. Marion is comfortable switching between the 3 and the 4 but he feels he's best used as a 4. I would say DeShawn is the player who might be out of position, but based on the SG going with him, it actually doesn't change his role offensively. Defensively, he might have to guard a player a little bigger than him but he's likely staying with the top scoring threat or second...so that's not new.

[dalger]

Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

Saying the forward rotation wouldn't be as good as it was prior is pretty obvious. Marion is comfortable switching between the 3 and the 4 but he feels he's best used as a 4. I would say DeShawn is the player who might be out of position, but based on the SG going with him, it actually doesn't change his role offensively. Defensively, he might have to guard a player a little bigger than him but he's likely staying with the top scoring threat or second...so that's not new.

Okay, it's possible that this kind of lineup may actually work and Roddy could replace Caron in terms of offensive production. The remaining problem would be our lack of depth at the 4 and 3. Any further injury, even a minor one, or foul trouble would send Cardinal on the court. Or we could go small. Really small, given that Jet and Roddy are undersized at the 2 and JJB would be considered undersized even in high school.

[b_o_r]

I said it in the other thread and I'll say it in here: The Mavs should go after Troy Murphy. He is in Avery's doghouse and is in a contract year. Troy can score from the low post and can hit the 3 which allows him to babysit Barea and run the pick and roll with Terry. He is also a good rebounder, something Cardinal is not doing.

[dude1394]

Originally Posted by b_o_r

I said it in the other thread and I'll say it in here: The Mavs should go after Troy Murphy. He is in Avery's doghouse and is in a contract year. Troy can score from the low post and can hit the 3 which allows him to babysit Barea and run the pick and roll with Terry. He is also a good rebounder, something Cardinal is not doing.

So we going to trade ajinca for him? Why would I trade caron for a backup for dirk?

[BGMaverick9]

Originally Posted by dalger

Okay, it's possible that this kind of lineup may actually work and Roddy could replace Caron in terms of offensive production. The remaining problem would be our lack of depth at the 4 and 3. Any further injury, even a minor one, or foul trouble would send Cardinal on the court. Or we could go small. Really small, given that Jet and Roddy are undersized at the 2 and JJB would be considered undersized even in high school.

I'm pretty sure 90% of the teams in the league would have the same hang-up...
"if this happens, then we're in a bind."

[mac222b]

Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

I'm pretty sure 90% of the teams in the league would have the same hang-up...
"if this happens, then we're in a bind."

except 90% of teams don't have a prayer of getting to the Finals.
i still think they're blowing smoke-- players, coaches, FO. it's part gamesmanship and true to some degree that they have confidence in what's here now. it simply doesn't lessen the need for another 3. DeShawn is a good stopgap at the 3 but if Marion sits who guards the bigger 3's like Melo?

If Artest or Odom goes down they have Barnes. Blake behind Fisher. The Magic have tons of quality depth. San Antonio and the Celtics(Nate, Big Baby, West, Shaq are all pretty skilled) are pretty deep.

i think w/out an addition that can swing between the 2/3(Iggy, S-Jax) or 3/4 (G.Wallace) positions or a guy like Granger or Prince or possibly Casspi we slip behind those top tier teams(Miami, SA, Boston, LA, Orlando) and look more like Chicago, Utah and maybe OKC or NO. a lack of quality depth, which entails guys playing more minutes, out of position, trying to do too much or even playing guys that preferably never see the floor in big spots(Cardinal, Dojo)definitely catches up with you.

IMHO they doth protest too much. Cuban and Donnie will find a way to get a deal done no matter what--even if it means overpaying.