05-25-2011, 11:21 PM
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Marion keeping them somewhat in it when OKC went small and Mavs were forced small by foul trouble with noone protecting the OKC rim because Collison had to stay outside with Dirk was marvelous.
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05-25-2011, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by mavs777
Tyson had fouled out and Haywood's defense was absolutley attrocious all night letting Harden slip past him for lay up after lay up
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Uhh...I'm talking about the whole quarter. Tyson didn't foul out until under a minute left...
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05-25-2011, 11:21 PM
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#83
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Harden has now busted out the backpack
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05-25-2011, 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Como11
I'm a little worried. We could not stop Harden or Westbrook. Theres no way we will stop Lebron or Wade. I don't care if we beat them during the regular season. They showed that doesn't matter against the Celtics.
But oh well. They got to start watching video and finding ways to stop them two.
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Wrong. LeBron and Wade do NOT present the same penetration problems that Westbrook or Harden or Rose, etc present. At least in the halfcourt.
The game will be in slow motion for Marion and Stevenson and Kidd on defense in the Finals compared to what they just survived.
The refs could be a problem though.
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05-25-2011, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by FINtastic
What's with the matching team backpacks from Harden and Durant? Seriously what's going on over there?
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The odd backpacks...the beard...terrorists?
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05-25-2011, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mavs777
Harden has now busted out the backpack
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Appropriate for a bunch of 12 year olds.
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05-25-2011, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by CadBane
He did as best as we can expect...but Dirk simply can't contest shots like Tyson or Wood can. Moreover, the bigger issue was that Marion was on the bench when dribble penetration was KILLING us. That's exactly what he prevents. It was mind boggling. After Marion came back in at the 4 minute mark, that's when we took over.
OKC stayed small after Matrix came back and it cost them.
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True points. But to my bigger argument, I'm not sure you give Carlisle enough credit for managing the *entire* game. Yeah, you can take any one specific stretch and find problems. But Carlisle seems to have an uncanny knack for managing the entire 48. It's like he's got a bit of horse jockey in him. The jockeys can't just let the horse run all-out from the get-go. They have to save something and let it go at the right time.
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05-25-2011, 11:23 PM
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Kudos to all the Mavs player and Mavs fans who stuck through it all. It has been a difficult frustrating stretch. Haunting even.
They have another chance now. Four more wins away.
You all deserve respect and admiration and your well deserved vindication is coming.
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05-25-2011, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by CadBane
I would start Tyson on Bosh and Dirk on Anthony. But when Haywood is in, he's not mobile enough for Bosh, so I'd put Dirk on him.
Also, Haslem is back...I hope they don't let him get away with 06' "defense".
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IMO, the reason why the Bulls are in the position they are in is because Noah has to check Bosh. Noah is your best rebounder and shot blocker but he is on the perimeter checking Bosh. Dirk has to guard Bosh so Tyson can deter the drives and board crashing of the Heat.
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05-25-2011, 11:24 PM
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lol @ Durant praising Westbrook for all of the supposed "accolades" that he's getting.... what accolades for fuck sake
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05-25-2011, 11:24 PM
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By the way, that ISO post-up on the low-block for Marion has been surprisingly effective in the clutch. Worked against Portland several times too.
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05-25-2011, 11:25 PM
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Can somebody please eliminate Skip Bayless?
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05-25-2011, 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by chumdawg
Very good point. And actually, although I may remember you and perhaps another poster or two questioning the coach's decision to roll out the small lineup, I thought Dirk did a fantastic job at center in that lineup. Suddenly he was rebounding everything...among other things.
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I was one of those posters, and I don't have any regrets questioning it. Westbrook got two easy layups as soon as we went to the Dirk-at-center look, and this coming from a player who was positive for the Mavs all season long. Carlisle managed to turn him into a dangerous player again when he took out the centers who were patrolling the paint.
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05-25-2011, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by CadBane
The odd backpacks...the beard...terrorists?
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The new Ted Kaczynski line of backpacks.
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05-25-2011, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by chumdawg
True points. But to my bigger argument, I'm not sure you give Carlisle enough credit for managing the *entire* game. Yeah, you can take any one specific stretch and find problems. But Carlisle seems to have an uncanny knack for managing the entire 48. It's like he's got a bit of horse jockey in him. The jockeys can't just let the horse run all-out from the get-go. They have to save something and let it go at the right time.
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You're right, I am pointing out a particular section. For me, I put more emphasis on it because it's what I perceived as poor coaching in the clutch...which is the pivotal moment.
But he did bring Marion back...finally, and overall, he's been quite good in the playoffs. I'm certainly a nit-picker (until we win that ring )
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05-25-2011, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by mavs777
Harden has now busted out the backpack
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For each playoff series they lose a new player has to sport the backpack. Westbrook gets one next year. I really dislike these guys.
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05-25-2011, 11:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by j0Shi
Can somebody please eliminate Skip Bayless?
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Did he come up with some bullshit again?
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05-25-2011, 11:26 PM
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Hey, KD's acne is clearing up!
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05-25-2011, 11:27 PM
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Marion was so the man tonight.
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05-25-2011, 11:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CadBane
He did as best as we can expect...but Dirk simply can't contest shots like Tyson or Wood can. Moreover, the bigger issue was that Marion was on the bench when dribble penetration was KILLING us. That's exactly what he prevents. It was mind boggling. After Marion came back in at the 4 minute mark, that's when we took over.
OKC stayed small after Matrix came back and it cost them.
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Marion played 40 minutes tonight. He played out of rotation when we went without a center. It was excruciating watching that small lineup, no doubt, but I have to think Carlisle was trying to get Marion some sort of rest. He's not used to playing those kinds of minutes at all, and don't forget about him asking out early in game 3. He's expending so much energy on both ends of the court, I think I understand the context of that situation. I was screaming about it at the time, but looking back on it and looking at the rotations, I think it was necessary.
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05-25-2011, 11:29 PM
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Kidd's strip on Durant in the clutch was..... clutch.
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05-25-2011, 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by vinylstar
For each playoff series they lose a new player has to sport the backpack. Westbrook gets one next year. I really dislike these guys.
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Westbrook doesn't get a backpack b/c they don't carry books in Special Ed
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05-25-2011, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by pkdumas
Appropriate for a bunch of 12 year olds.
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This. The Thunder kept talking all series about how their youth wasn't an excuse or a weakness, but then they go and do stuff like this... not saying it's bad, but it does take away from their argument.
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05-25-2011, 11:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CadBane
You're right, I am pointing out a particular section. For me, I put more emphasis on it because it's what I perceived as poor coaching in the clutch...which is the pivotal moment.
But he did bring Marion back...finally, and overall, he's been quite good in the playoffs. I'm certainly a nit-picker (until we win that ring )
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As far as what is "the clutch"...I think that probably Carlisle has a little more patience than the typical GDT poster. By that I mean...nine minutes to go in the fourth, in a six to eight point game, is probably not do-or-die time.
It actually crossed my mind a little bit if Carlisle wasn't testing that lineup out with thoughts of the next series in mind.
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05-25-2011, 11:31 PM
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LOL everyone walked away...no one cared for this trophy...and they forgot it..someone had to get Jet to go back and pick it up LOL
But that shows what they really want...great to see th Mavs back in the FINALS
..and I hope its against the HEAT. It couldnt be any sweeter )
GO MAVS
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05-25-2011, 11:31 PM
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Have to say, though, that the officiating helped us a bit to stay in the game. Had 11 more free throws and 7 less fouls. It's certainly easier to overcome a performance like tonight at home than on the road.
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05-25-2011, 11:32 PM
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OK, Harden; now, you can go back to your own self!
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05-25-2011, 11:32 PM
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What did Durant and Harden have in their backpacks? Probably a fishing rod...
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05-25-2011, 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by AO41
LOL everyone walked away...no one cared for this trophy...and they forgot it..someone had to get Jet to go back and pick it up LOL
But that shows what they really want...great to see th Mavs back in the FINALS
..and I hope its against the HEAT. It couldnt be any sweeter )
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they were just ready to go get f-ed up! haha . go mavs!
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05-25-2011, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jthig32
Marion played 40 minutes tonight. He played out of rotation when we went without a center. It was excruciating watching that small lineup, no doubt, but I have to think Carlisle was trying to get Marion some sort of rest. He's not used to playing those kinds of minutes at all, and don't forget about him asking out early in game 3. He's expending so much energy on both ends of the court, I think I understand the context of that situation. I was screaming about it at the time, but looking back on it and looking at the rotations, I think it was necessary.
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Ugh, makes me really hope Chicago can win another game or two and give our boys some rest.
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05-25-2011, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Sportstudi
Did he come up with some bullshit again?
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http://twitter.com/#!/RealSkipBayless
Only click if you wanna read bs on a great night like this.
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05-25-2011, 11:33 PM
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id love to see Anthony trying to guard dirk
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05-25-2011, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by WraithXx
Westbrook doesn't get a backpack b/c they don't carry books in Special Ed
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Ouch. That's brutal.
Even more brutal would be if when they asked Durant what he carries in that backpack, he said "Russell Westbrook."
Of course, I kid.
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05-25-2011, 11:35 PM
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I think someone should definitely get a .gif of Rick Carlisle's smile there...
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Seriously. That's the first time I have seen him smile too.
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05-25-2011, 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by chumdawg
Ouch. That's brutal.
Even more brutal would be if when they asked Durant what he carries in that backpack, he said "Russell Westbrook."
Of course, I kid.
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... or the Western Championship Trophy the Mavs left behind!
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05-25-2011, 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by pkdumas
The refs could be a problem though.
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i'm scared from this...
anyway we didn't play a great series but,wow,we won 4-1!!!amazing!!!
i think the same thing that cuban says.
go mavssssssssssssss
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05-25-2011, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by CGM
... or the Western Championship Trophy the Mavs left behind!
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...day-um. that's just fantastic.
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05-25-2011, 11:41 PM
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Dirk walks to podium and I lose feed WTF
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05-25-2011, 11:41 PM
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Waiting to get the report from dude1934, who I'm sure was in the arena, and who proclaimed he would be "so drunk Wednesday night!" Check in, dude...let us know you are okay!
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05-25-2011, 11:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CadBane
The odd backpacks...the beard...terrorists?
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Don't forget the plaid shirts. That's a clue too.
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