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Old 08-13-2012, 01:49 AM   #1
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Jason Kidd sucked last season - explain how Tyson Chandler would've fixed that...
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Jason Kidd sucked last season - explain how Tyson Chandler would've fixed that...
And Jason Terry went back to playing the usual no defense. If Chandler is needed to make others play defense, then that is on those players...not Tyson Chandler. This year's team should be pretty good on both ends and hopefully won't need someone to motivate them to do something they should always be doing anyway.
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Jason Kidd sucked last season - explain how Tyson Chandler would've fixed that...
Watch the All-NBA center play with Kidd on the Knicks this season for your answer.

I'd say the answer is four-part:
  • Chandler lobs
    Chandler screens
    Chandler spacing
    Chandler covering defensive weaknesses

All of which would have helped Kidd and Dirk last season. Not to mention giving the team hope of defending the title rather than going through the season as Jet said "playing for next year".
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This ^ personally I am not one of those that thinks bringing back the band would have had us winning it all. I am just one those that thinks Dirk + Chandler is a great combo. Could there be others? Maybe. Can we get them here? Maybe. Did Tyson offer to stay? Hell yes. Mine is a one in the hand two in the bush sort of argument. I towed the line at the time when we let them all go and understand the Cuban CBA thoughts. But looking back I kinda wish we paid that man his money (just Chandler not the rest). Now we have to scratch to get another big man to play some hard D behind Dirk.
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This ^ personally I am not one of those that thinks bringing back the band would have had us winning it all. I am just one those that thinks Dirk + Chandler is a great combo. Could there be others? Maybe. Can we get them here? Maybe. Did Tyson offer to stay? Hell yes. Mine is a one in the hand two in the bush sort of argument. I towed the line at the time when we let them all go and understand the Cuban CBA thoughts. But looking back I kinda wish we paid that man his money (just Chandler not the rest). Now we have to scratch to get another big man to play some hard D behind Dirk.
I think you're where alot of people are. Some seem to think that the only options were to either keep the band together or to basically blow it all apart except for the people they kept for the 2011 season..
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This ^ personally I am not one of those that thinks bringing back the band would have had us winning it all. I am just one those that thinks Dirk + Chandler is a great combo. Could there be others? Maybe. Can we get them here? Maybe. Did Tyson offer to stay? Hell yes. Mine is a one in the hand two in the bush sort of argument. I towed the line at the time when we let them all go and understand the Cuban CBA thoughts. But looking back I kinda wish we paid that man his money (just Chandler not the rest). Now we have to scratch to get another big man to play some hard D behind Dirk.
Scratch to get another big man to play D? The center position is stronger than ever. Kaman and Brand each averaged 1.6 blocks per game last season. Sure, no player is the help-side defender that Tyson is, but this current team doesn't need to rely on it. Kidd and Terry aren't on the team anymore. Good grief, not two seasons ago people were gushing over getting a guy like Kaman. Some people need to open their eyes to what we actually have.
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Scratch to get another big man to play D? The center position is stronger than ever. Kaman and Brand each averaged 1.6 blocks per game last season. Sure, no player is the help-side defender that Tyson is, but this current team doesn't need to rely on it. Kidd and Terry aren't on the team anymore. Good grief, not two seasons ago people were gushing over getting a guy like Kaman. Some people need to open their eyes to what we actually have.
OK OK OK... lol I am with you man, this will be fun to see how they come together no doubt. I am just a fan of the Chandler/Dirk combo. I thought it was solid. Kaman, if he stays healthy and Brand if he works out will be great too and maybe I will BECOME a fan of one of those combos. And yes we had to scratch to get Brand on a lucky bid and Kaman could have easily slipped away. My point was that we HAD a guy in our hand that worked. That's all. And I totally agree that the FO flipped it up with efficiency at the last second. Kudos for that move.

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This ^ personally I am not one of those that thinks bringing back the band would have had us winning it all. I am just one those that thinks Dirk + Chandler is a great combo. Could there be others? Maybe. Can we get them here? Maybe. Did Tyson offer to stay? Hell yes. Mine is a one in the hand two in the bush sort of argument. I towed the line at the time when we let them all go and understand the Cuban CBA thoughts. But looking back I kinda wish we paid that man his money (just Chandler not the rest). Now we have to scratch to get another big man to play some hard D behind Dirk.
Yea but at his price...10 to 11 mill for Chandler sounds good but Chandler wanted close to 15 mill a season and there's no way he's worth that, I think one of the reasons Chandler was mad at the Mavs for not keep him was because he thought Cuban would overpay to keep him but didn't and let him walk. I miss that Dirk and Chandler combo also but Chandler was asking for Superstar money.

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Yea but at his price...10 to 11 mill for Chandler sounds good but Chandler wanted close to 15 mill a season and there's no way he's worth that, I think one of the reasons Chandler was mad at the Mavs for not keep him was because he thought Cuban would overpay to keep him but didn't and let him walk. I miss that Dirk and Chandler combo also but Chandler was asking for Superstar money.
I don't remember him being mad at the Mavs, at least not publicly. Maybe I didn't catch the statements that suggested he was mad.

It would have been interesting to see how he would have reacted to an offer in the neighborhood of 5/60--less money per year than in New York, yet the biggest amount of money overall due to the additional year that only we could have offered. Then again, it's idle to speculate now (or six months ago for that matter). That ship has sailed.
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