11-09-2012, 08:01 AM
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GDT Mavs at Knicks 11-09-12
Mavericks-Knicks Preview
6:30 PM CT, November 9, 2012
Madison Square Garden, New York, NY
http://espn.go.com/nba/preview?id=400277791
Jason Kidd helped the Dallas Mavericks to their first NBA title two seasons ago.
Right now, the New York Knicks just want the 39-year-old guard to contribute to their best start in 19 years.
The Knicks look to maintain their status as the NBA's only unbeaten team Friday night when they host the streaking Mavericks.
Kidd spent the last four-plus seasons running the point for Dallas (4-1), helping the Mavericks to the 2011 NBA championship along with current teammate Tyson Chandler, but New York (3-0) signed him to a three-year, $9 million free-agent contract this summer.
The move is paying dividends for the Knicks in the early going as they seek their longest season-opening winning streak since starting 7-0 in 1993-94. Kidd is contributing 9.0 points per game while making 8 of 14 from the floor.
Kidd's only shot in Monday's 110-88 win at Philadelphia was a made 3-pointer, one day after he had 12 points and six assists to help open the home-and-home set with a 100-84 victory.
While Kidd is giving the Knicks a strong veteran presence, Carmelo Anthony has been the primary force while averaging 26.0 points and 7.3 rebounds. The superstar forward is also aiding New York's stifling defensive play, with opponents averaging 85.3 points on 40.7 percent shooting.
"I'm trying to get Melo to do everything," coach Mike Woodson said. "I don't want him to be perceived as just a scorer. Melo has been defending for us. He's been rebounding for us, and that's what he's got to do. It's not just Melo. We gotta have 13 guys doing the things to help us win basketball games.
"Melo is playing at a high level right now and I expect him to continue playing at a high level."
Anthony struggled mightily in his most recent matchup with Dallas, a 95-85 road loss for the Knicks on March 6. He was 2 of 12 from the field to finish with six points, although he may have an easier time Friday with Mavs forward Shawn Marion expected to miss the second of at least three games with a knee injury.
The Knicks have dropped 18 of their last 21 matchups with Dallas, although they won the last meeting at Madison Square Garden 104-97 on Feb. 19 with Anthony out and Jeremy Lin in a starring role.
The Mavericks enter this visit averaging 116.3 points during a three-game winning streak after beating Toronto 109-104 on Wednesday. Their run has been especially impressive with Dirk Nowitzki still out recovering from right knee surgery.
"They're playing a little bit more up-tempo," Kidd said. "They're playing extremely well. They're 4-1 without Dirk. That shows they're a team that can play without their star. We gotta be ready because they're offensive minded and a team that can put up a lot of points."
O.J. Mayo and Chris Kaman are big reasons for the Mavs' winning streak, with Mayo averaging 28.0 points during the run and Kaman 18.0 on 70.6 percent shooting.
"We've got guys picking it up while guys are injured," said Kaman, who had a season-high 22 points against the Raptors. "We're on a little bit of a roll and we're just going to try to keep it going."
New York's Marcus Camby is expected to make his season debut in his return from a calf injury. The center averaged 4.9 points and 9.0 rebounds with Portland and Houston last season.
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11-09-2012, 08:06 AM
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Currently our Mavs are:
POINTS PER GAME = 108.4............2nd OVERALL
REBOUNDS PER GAME = 41.4......19th OVERALL
ASSISTS PER GAME = 24.6..............5th OVERALL
POINTS ALLOWED = 99.6...............21st OVERALL
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11-09-2012, 08:14 AM
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…..........DAL (PPG)..........................NY (PPG)
PG-----D. Collison 16.2.................R. Felton 13.7
SG-----O. Mayo 21.6.....................J. Kidd 9.0
SF------J. Crowder 8.6...................R. Brewer 9.7
PF-----E. Brand 5.8.......................C. Anthony 26.0
C------C. Kaman 18.0....................T. Chandler 8.7
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11-09-2012, 09:14 AM
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Gotta clean up the defensive glass tonight and tighten up the defense. Should be a real fun game and a test to see where this team is at right now against one of the top teams in the league.
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11-09-2012, 09:32 AM
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Classic Knicks fans:
http://forums.realgm.com/boards/view...f=24&t=1212081
After surprising the Heat and beating the Sixers two times (without Bynum) the Knicks have won the NBA title 2012-13 with a perfect 3-0 record...
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11-09-2012, 09:39 AM
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Without Marion, who was locked down Anthony a few times before, i expect him to get his.
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11-09-2012, 09:41 AM
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So far we are flying under the radar
....a win vs. the Knicks will be like this
man, I'd so love to see some panic on ESPN tomorrow...some hysteric laughther on tweeter.
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11-09-2012, 09:55 AM
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Knicks will be our biggest challenge yet and the combo of Chandler and Camby will be a tough match up. If this team continues the up tempo play though it may start to ware down the older Knicks team.
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11-09-2012, 10:06 AM
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This game will be a huge test for the Mavs and for OJ Mayo. So far, OJ has only played well in Dallas. We will see how he performs on the road.
I hope for a Mavs win, but I wouldn't at all be surprised if they lose in a massive blowout.
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11-09-2012, 11:29 AM
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My guess is that Collison is going to have a huge game. 21points - 14 assists!!!!!!!!!!!!
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11-09-2012, 11:39 AM
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This'll be an incredibly tough game without Marion. Hope this doesn't look like Melo versus the Mavs circa ~2007-2009
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11-09-2012, 12:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by QSA
This game will be a huge test for the Mavs and for OJ Mayo. So far, OJ has only played well in Dallas. We will see how he performs on the road.
I hope for a Mavs win, but I wouldn't at all be surprised if they lose in a massive blowout.
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Easily the biggest test for the mavs and OJ especially. If he has a bad game there will be lots of fans and media alike saying he can only do it either at home or against sub 500 team. For me if OJ has a big game this will jump start a lot of people to pay attention because they haven't so far.
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11-09-2012, 12:19 PM
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This'll be an incredibly tough game without Marion. Hope this doesn't look like Melo versus the Mavs circa ~2007-2009
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A big test to see if Crowder can stay out of foul trouble. My guess is that Vince Carter will guard him for a good amount of minutes.
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11-09-2012, 12:28 PM
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New York has the second stingiest defense in the league. I'm more worried about scoring points than getting stops tonight. Kidd can't drive, which makes guarding him easier. Chandler is offensively limited. We don't have a stopper for Carmelo, but we just gotta find a way to score and keep everyone else on the team out of it. Kidd won't be hard to defend, but he'll probably give Mayo some problems if Mayo isnt abusing the lack of speed.
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11-09-2012, 12:31 PM
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No Dirk or Marion? Well, at least Kidd and Chandler won't be able to use familiarity to beat us...
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11-09-2012, 12:40 PM
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Mavs' best defensive center ever vs. Mavs' best offensive center ever? Should be interesting.
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11-09-2012, 12:43 PM
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Quote:
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This'll be an incredibly tough game without Marion. Hope this doesn't look like Melo versus the Mavs circa ~2007-2009
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It probably will. Man those were the worst.
With JR Smith too.
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11-09-2012, 12:45 PM
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New York has the second stingiest defense in the league. I'm more worried about scoring points than getting stops tonight. Kidd can't drive, which makes guarding him easier. Chandler is offensively limited. We don't have a stopper for Carmelo, but we just gotta find a way to score and keep everyone else on the team out of it. Kidd won't be hard to defend, but he'll probably give Mayo some problems if Mayo isnt abusing the lack of speed.
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Well sample size.
The Knicks played just three games. Catched the Heat on the wrong foot (and nailed 19 threes) and then beat the Sixers two times, still without Bynum..
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11-09-2012, 01:58 PM
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Worried about our perimeter defense tonight. It will be good one. Any word on Roddy yet?
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11-09-2012, 02:28 PM
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Been looking forward to this game all week. Cannot wait.
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11-09-2012, 02:31 PM
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Brand should not play more than Brandan Wright. Brand is on his last legs...
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11-09-2012, 06:14 PM
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GO MAVS!
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11-09-2012, 06:16 PM
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Welcome to NBA Jae...guard Carmelo for 25 minutes.
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11-09-2012, 06:23 PM
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Let Anthony get his and focus on shutting down the three point shooters. Hopefully, this is one of those games where Smith chucks the team to a loss.
Crowder will end up on the bench with foul trouble if he's on Anthony for too long. Rookies get shafted that way.
Camby is good, but he's been out with injuries. Let's hope he's really rusty.
Knicks fans will probably think the championship is right around the corner if they win this one. No Dirk, Marion, Roddy? The Knicks don't have Amare, but that's a blessing because Anthony plays better without him.
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11-09-2012, 06:31 PM
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Novak three pointers over/under 4?
Roddy unsure to return, some reports say yes, some say maybe...
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11-09-2012, 06:33 PM
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Just don't let Steve Novak and JR Smith go off.
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11-09-2012, 06:55 PM
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Nobody thinks about ring right now, but NYK is like 2010-2011 Dallas, the oldest team with good chemistry, so who knows.
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11-09-2012, 07:15 PM
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Logic says this is a minor game where we are just treading water while we gel and wait for Dirk's return. My gut wants the respect that comes with going 5-1 and kicking the Knicks down a peg.
Plus I want Kidd to regret his decision.
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11-09-2012, 07:17 PM
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Roddy B will be a gametime decision but he looked good at shootaround. Brand will be back in action after having another kid.
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Let's hope Roddy is back...
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11-09-2012, 07:22 PM
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Any feeds? Please
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11-09-2012, 07:22 PM
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Checking twitter to see if there are more news.
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11-09-2012, 07:23 PM
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11-09-2012, 07:24 PM
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Is it the same link for every game?
Edit: there's already one posted. thanks.
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11-09-2012, 07:27 PM
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Is it the same link for every game?
Edit: there's already one posted. thanks.
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Just bookmark http://www.thefirstrow.eu/sport/basketball.html and the links will appear.
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11-09-2012, 07:30 PM
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Wohoo, Mavs feed!
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11-09-2012, 07:31 PM
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Thanks.
Did anyone download the HD desktop app from firstrow?
Any good?
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11-09-2012, 07:37 PM
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Collison, Mayo, Crowder, Brand and Wright.
Kaman back off the bench, ok...
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11-09-2012, 07:37 PM
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Thanks.
Did anyone download the HD desktop app from firstrow?
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Was wondering that as well...
On another note, this game is going to be goooooood!
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11-09-2012, 07:40 PM
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Roddy is dressed.
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11-09-2012, 07:41 PM
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Kidd in that Knick jersey looks odd.
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