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nowhereman · 03-22-2013, 04:41 PM

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I remember Brewer turning a game around in the 2011 playoffs and then being banished to the bench by RC. He never played again for the Mavs.

Give Karl credit for getting the most out of his players.

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are you freaking kidding me.

I've seen some idiocy on this board, but criticizing Carlisle for his roster moves in the 2011 NBA playoffs is a new low.

DGM · 03-22-2013, 05:36 PM

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are you freaking kidding me.

I've seen some idiocy on this board, but criticizing Carlisle for his roster moves in the 2011 NBA playoffs is a new low.

I spoke the truth.

Kante · 03-22-2013, 05:37 PM

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I spoke the truth.

No.

So, RC should have developed Brewer in 2011 instead of being busy doing a tremendous job, that end up winning the championship?

Sounds logic...

DGM · 03-22-2013, 05:59 PM

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No.

So, RC should have developed Brewer in 2011 instead of being busy doing a tremendous job, that end up winning the championship?

Sounds logic...

Brewer saved his ass then he benched him. The next year the Mavs gave him away. Those words are the truth. I made no editorial comments. You get to have your opinions but facts don't change.

nowhereman · 03-22-2013, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DGM

I spoke the truth.

The Mavs went 11-3 in the playoffs from that point and you're blaming Rick. This is a new low.

DGM · 03-22-2013, 07:26 PM

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The Mavs went 11-3 in the playoffs from that point and you're blaming Rick. This is a new low.

Nothing to blame Rick for. The Mavs won and I enjoyed it. RC is a good coach but he's not perfect. Brewer did save a playoff game and get banished to the bench. The championship did not change that fact

nowhereman · 03-22-2013, 08:06 PM

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Nothing to blame Rick for. The Mavs won and I enjoyed it. RC is a good coach but he's not perfect. Brewer did save a playoff game and get banished to the bench. The championship did not change that fact

The problem is that Peja, Deshawn, Vince, JJ, Cardinal, Mahinmi, and Terry were all huge and extremely productive. I don't know where Brewer would have or should have found any minutes. With the benefit of hindsight, Rick clearly made the right move. And getting rid of Brewer for powder was a Cuban thing, not a Rick thing.

SMC0007 · 03-22-2013, 08:19 PM

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The problem is that Peja, Deshawn, Vince, JJ, Cardinal, Mahinmi, and Terry were all huge and extremely productive. I don't know where Brewer would have or should have found any minutes. With the benefit of hindsight, Rick clearly made the right move. And getting rid of Brewer for powder was a Cuban thing, not a Rick thing.

I agree, the ones you mentioned were much more productive. But, getting rid of Brewer may have had a bit more to do with Rick and Cuban, as opposed to just Cuban.

Still, Rick has a habit of burying guys in the rotation. No denying that.

nowhereman · 03-22-2013, 10:18 PM

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I agree, the ones you mentioned were much more productive. But, getting rid of Brewer may have had a bit more to do with Rick and Cuban, as opposed to just Cuban.

Still, Rick has a habit of burying guys in the rotation. No denying that.

I don't know - remember that Rudy was part of that deal too, and he hadn't even played a game for us (making me think it was Cuban and Donnie shuffling things around). Either way, I'd love for Corey to get another shot here, and, yes, Rick is generally pretty awful about integrating young talent.

dude1394 · 03-23-2013, 01:35 PM

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Nothing to blame Rick for. The Mavs won and I enjoyed it. RC is a good coach but he's not perfect. Brewer did save a playoff game and get banished to the bench. The championship did not change that fact

Banished to the bench. So you think that Carlisle is supposed to have a

Dirk, jkiddo, jet, Shawn, Peja, Haywood, mahinmi, jjb, desean Stevenson, Brian cardinal, brewer...

11 man rotation during the playoffs?? If he did it would be the first one in history. Most go to an 8man rotation. I would say that Carlisle played more players than normal and was willing to put layers on the court when others thought it was wrong. Who's minutes were brewer going to get? Shawn, jet. Peja, jjb?

Come on man, criticise rc all you want but don't make up stuff.