12-18-2014, 06:13 PM
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Official: Rondo to Dallas!!
@WojYahooNBA 5m5 minutes ago
Trade call coming tonight between Dallas and Boston, Rondo has been traded to the Mavericks, league sources tell Yahoo.
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12-18-2014, 06:16 PM
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Rondo-to-Mavs deal nearly finished
http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/...-course-happen
The Boston Celtics are in the process of finalizing a deal to send Rajon Rondo to the Dallas Mavericks, according to league sources.
Sources tell ESPN.com that the Celtics and the Mavericks have an agreement in principle to send the All-Star point guard to Dallas for Brandan Wright, Jae Crowder, Jameer Nelson and a future first- and second-round draft pick.
The possibility exists that other players will be added to the final deal, but sources indicated that the "deal is on course to happen tonight."
Rondo would join Dirk Nowitzki, Monta Ellis, Tyson Chandler and Chandler Parsons in a high-octane starting five.
Rondo is in the final year of his contract. Rondo has left little doubt in recent months that he intends to test the market as a free agent in July. However, sources say Dallas, amid growing concern about its point guard play and sensing the opportunity to acquire a topflight player it has coveted for some time, is confident it could win over Rondo for the long term.
The Mavericks were one of several teams to express interest in Rondo. The Celtics also had talked to teams such as the Sacramento Kings, New York Knicks, Los Angeles Lakers and Houston Rockets about a potential deal, according to sources.
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12-18-2014, 06:17 PM
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Im gonna miss -brandan but Im excited about the future right now
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12-18-2014, 06:17 PM
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Rondo/Monta/Parsons/Dirk/Tyson...
I gotta say, that starting lineup is pretty sick.
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12-18-2014, 06:19 PM
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SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET
Took a position we were weak in and made it stronger.
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12-18-2014, 06:19 PM
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It'll take some time to get him adjusted, but I have faith in Coach Ricky C.
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12-18-2014, 06:19 PM
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12-18-2014, 06:26 PM
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I'm not a huge fan of rondo. But when he's on, he's as good as anyone but Steph curry at that position
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12-18-2014, 06:31 PM
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Anyone know anything about Dwight Powell? Sounds like we're getting the 6'10" rookie PF back in the trade... Dude has only played 5 games in the NBA.
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12-18-2014, 06:31 PM
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I'm not a huge fan of rondo. But when he's on, he's as good as anyone but Steph curry at that position
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I'm a huge fan of his game, especially the way he has elevated it in the past when in the playoffs. There is not a better defending PG in the league IMO when he's playing at the top of his game. We just got to bring that out of him again.
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12-18-2014, 06:35 PM
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12-18-2014, 06:35 PM
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12-18-2014, 06:36 PM
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I'm not a rondo fan, Iv made that clear. But with that said, this trade makes us have a chance to win a title if everything goes well. We didn't before this trade.
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12-18-2014, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Five-ofan
I'm not a rondo fan, Iv made that clear. But with that said, this trade makes us have a chance to win a title if everything goes well. We didn't before this trade.
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I'm in the same boat. I'm not certain that Rondo is the guy that brings us to the next level... but he could be. The Mavs definitely needed to do something, and really what other options were there for a major upgrade at our weakest position?
We only have a little bit of Dirk left. Now's the time to swing for the fences.
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12-18-2014, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson
I'm in the same boat. I'm not certain that Rondo is the guy that brings us to the next level... but he could be. The Mavs definitely needed to do something, and really what other options for a major upgrade at our weakest position?
We only have a little bit of Dirk left. Now's the time to swing for the fences.
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Can't disagree at all. I have always enjoyed Rondo from his playoff performances of the past. Guy simply steps it up. His shooting percentage should jump up significantly in Dallas.
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12-18-2014, 06:48 PM
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Couldn't have hoped for a better trade opportunity to present itself. Rondo brings a needed skill set at a needed position, and comes at a fair price. The team is now set up with a broad base of high caliber talent in the starting lineup both for this year and beyond. Bravo, MBT. Bravo.
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12-18-2014, 06:49 PM
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Not really sure this trade makes us better - hope I'm wrong about that, but I don't like point guards that let the opposing defense play 4 on 5 because they can't hit the broad side of the barn.
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12-18-2014, 06:54 PM
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Sick S5
bench:
Barea/Harris/Jefferson/Aminu/Smith (Felton)
Im pretty sure they are working to pick up a solid big and RC gonna work out a rotation to minimize the Rondo/Ellis minutes and give Ellis more run with the bench unit for scoring....
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12-18-2014, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by FINtastic
Not really sure this trade makes us better - hope I'm wrong about that, but I don't like point guards that let the opposing defense play 4 on 5 because they can't hit the broad side of the barn.
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You could probably read this exactly quote after the Jason Kidd trade
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12-18-2014, 06:56 PM
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You know, from top to bottom, this might possibly be the best starting lineup the Mavs have ever had... possibly.
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12-18-2014, 06:58 PM
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Rockets fans seem to think we have the worst bench in the league now.
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12-18-2014, 06:58 PM
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You know, from top to bottom, this might possibly be the best starting lineup the Mavs have ever had... possibly.
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Well we don't quite have a superstar, but the league has changed. And any of the starting 5 can have a superstar night.
Just so glad we didn't give up Harris.
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12-18-2014, 07:00 PM
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You could probably read this exactly quote after the Jason Kidd trade
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Well the key difference between the two being that Kidd had actually developed into a good enough 3 point shooter to actually keep the defenses honest. And Kidd wasn't shooting 33%(!!) from the charity stripe...
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12-18-2014, 07:01 PM
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You could probably read this exactly quote after the Jason Kidd trade
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True enough. That's why I was so against that trade when it happened. However, Kidd was able to transform into a dead eye 3 point assassin. There is no reason to expect Rondo will ever do the same.
I still like this move though. Gives us defense and rebounding when we desperately need both.
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12-18-2014, 07:02 PM
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Here's a stat
John Schuhmann @johnschuhmann
According to #SportVU, opponents have shot 53% w/ Rondo guarding them this season (50%) & last (55%).
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12-18-2014, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Cerberus
Here's a stat
John Schuhmann @johnschuhmann
According to #SportVU, opponents have shot 53% w/ Rondo guarding them this season (50%) & last (55%).
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I would be more interested in how they shot in the years previously. Everytime I turned on a Celtics game the guy was doing work on D.
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12-18-2014, 07:09 PM
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Can't disagree at all. I have always enjoyed Rondo from his playoff performances of the past. Guy simply steps it up. His shooting percentage should jump up significantly in Dallas.
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Well it sure as heck cannot go down. I have never paid much attention to him but it's a roll of the dice for sure. If he continues to shoot 33% free throws however, I will have to throw a shoe through my tv.
I mean that is worse than shaq. He is currently 8th from the bottom in ft%. But that is only because there are about 20 below him at 0. UGG...
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12-18-2014, 07:09 PM
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Carlisle has a chance to help Rondo revamp himself of being the superstar he is. Let's get him practicing already. Good thing this trade went down before January and didn't drag out.
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12-18-2014, 07:09 PM
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I would be more interested in how they shot in the years previously. Everytime I turned on a Celtics game the guy was doing work on D.
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Yea, agree on that. The oppostion % should go down with Tyson as well, where Rondo didn't have anyone like Tyson in past 2 seasons
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12-18-2014, 07:10 PM
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Not really sure this trade makes us better - hope I'm wrong about that, but I don't like point guards that let the opposing defense play 4 on 5 because they can't hit the broad side of the barn.
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Me neither. I do NOT like guards who cannot shoot.. Never have. Look at dojo, 37ppg in china, but here he stunk because he cannot shoot.
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12-18-2014, 07:11 PM
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Anyone know anything about Dwight Powell? Sounds like we're getting the 6'10" rookie PF back in the trade... Dude has only played 5 games in the NBA.
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Soft for his size. Gifted athletically, can get up and down on the break. Shys away from contact. Spot up shooter, out to about 20, sets up his drives. High IQ....Stanford gives that away. Fits in with the Parsons/Dirk type of 6-10, big man spot up shooter.
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12-18-2014, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Cerberus
Here's a stat
John Schuhmann @johnschuhmann
According to #SportVU, opponents have shot 53% w/ Rondo guarding them this season (50%) & last (55%).
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Not particularly encouraging ...
Schuhmann doesn't seem to be a fan, huh?
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.@RGuien I'm pretty surprised by the near universal praise for DAL & that Rondo's rep still strong 4.5 years after '10 playoffs.
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.@EvanKaratzas Oh man, don't get me started on that assist streak.
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12-18-2014, 07:21 PM
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YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH big fan of rajon, my favorite players on my team monta dirk rajon, now leaving the exciting on a side for a few seconds, lets look on the pros and cons
PROS:-Elite playmaker guard
-B- defensive player, but a huge improvement from what jameer/devin/jj/monta bring to the table
-His gonna make dirk minutes count, as he is a pick&roll player as monta is and an even better passer than monta
-Not a great shooter, but when he's on uh boy..
-Experience and leadership, someone who developes loyalty to a franchise, he stayed in hell after kg,truth and allen left
CONS: -Losing wright is the bitter candy to chew, dude was playing solid minutes from the bench and now it's gonna be up to what tyson can do, as i dont see greg smith playing the minutes brandan was having
-Jae has always been an streak guy on offense, but on defense he was really solid, specially when we had to look for solutions when our on court defense wasn't working out
-Jameer's 3 point shot, when he was on it really affected the course of the game, sadly he as jae is a streak guy
-Again we lose another first round pick for the draft, lets hope next year's draft is a shitty one(which I seriously doubt)
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12-18-2014, 07:23 PM
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Well we don't quite have a superstar, but the league has changed. And any of the starting 5 can have a superstar night.
Just so glad we didn't give up Harris.
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Yeah that's the only caveat. Dirk isn't the same player he was even three years ago. Still, this is the only Mavs roster I can think of that had above average talent at all 5 positions.
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12-18-2014, 07:25 PM
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I wouldnt read too much into the Rondo post-contender stats...its a big difference playing for the playoffs/title or playing with a rebuilding team.
I dont expect 08-10 Rondo but he will be much better than 12-14 Rondo...
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12-18-2014, 07:31 PM
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Rockets fans seem to think we have the worst bench in the league now.
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Well are they wrong? This is a BIG concern of mine right now. We got Rondo... GREAT! And I really mean that because Jameer needed to go, and we were basically playing without a starting PG. But this trade really hurts our depth, doesn't it? One of our strengths was depth and having arguably the best bench in the league. Does anyone have an idea what the plan is? Are we getting anyone else besides Rondo?
Edit: By the way, I hadn't seen any news today. So when I just logged on a couple minutes ago my jaw dropped and I yelled out "WHAT?!?!?!?!" LOL. I knew there were rumours, but I really didnt take them seriously. This is awesome though!!! Who would have ever thought we could have such a MONSTER starting unit?!?!?!
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12-18-2014, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by sefant77
I wouldnt read too much into the Rondo post-contender stats...its a big difference playing for the playoffs/title or playing with a rebuilding team.
I dont expect 08-10 Rondo but he will be much better than 12-14 Rondo...
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his numbers are gonna get stacked on this roster, specially his assits, but now u have 5 guys who can score, if we were a matchup nightmare before, now shit just got real son!lol
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12-18-2014, 07:31 PM
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Will he be able to play saturday?
Powell is an intriguing player too...
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12-18-2014, 07:33 PM
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How does he fit offensively next to Ellis?
If Ellis continues to be the primary ball-handler and playmaker for us, then Rondo is a major offensive liability and we are playing 4 on 5. If Rondo takes those primary ball-handling duties, as a traditional point guard would, then you’re really taking away the playmaking that Monta has given us these last 2 years.
With Monta, the point guard in this offense is really more of a spot-up shooter.
Not sure how Carlisle handles this.
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12-18-2014, 07:34 PM
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Will he be able to play saturday?
Powell is an intriguing player too...
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its possible, it depends on if tomorrow he arrives to dallas and joins at practice, if not i wouldn't start him, game on saturday is gonna be a dog fight, i'd start jj who knows the system
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