04-27-2015, 06:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by #41 Shoot em up
No link, just something a little birdie told me.
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What did the little birdie tell you, exactly?
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04-27-2015, 07:13 PM
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#82
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Quote:
Originally Posted by #41 Shoot em up
No link, just something a little birdie told me.
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My little birdie told me Adriana Lima wanna bang me
Yeah!
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04-27-2015, 09:21 PM
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#83
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sefant77
My little birdie told me Adriana Lima wanna bang me
Yeah!
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My little birdie actually exists
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04-27-2015, 10:34 PM
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#84
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Quote:
Originally Posted by #41 Shoot em up
No chance Monta Ellis is back next year, Cuban will chase Aldridge and Deandre Jordan(who wants to be a Mav)
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Well in that case- Go Spurs! And Grizz!
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04-28-2015, 08:34 AM
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#85
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Maybe there is a small chance to get Lawson. Too bad we gave away the 2016 1st for Rondo
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04-28-2015, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by sike
I agree, but I would like Dirk to be a 6th man.
I'd be interested in a starting 5 of:
Harris
Green or Matthews or Afflalo
Parsons
Aminu
Chandler
Dirk as 6th man focused on playing 24-26min per night.
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Who's your #1? IMHO, that starting 5 looks like a lottery team.
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Originally Posted by Bryan_Wilson
I never said Matthews would be the number 1 option? What is wrong with having Dirk take advantage of his mismatches, with CP and Matthews doing the same when they have the advantage? Good ball movement and match-ups. Don't Spurs, Hawks, Grizz, Bulls, Wiz, Raps all do this? While actually being able to defend the perimeter with Matthews as a bonus?
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Dirk will be 37 at the start of next season and you're seeing the highest level of play you can expect from him going forward. With the exception of the Spurs recent success (though I'd argue they've had a #1, and are in transition to a new #1), how many recent titles do those other teams have and what do you think their chances are this year?
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04-28-2015, 10:14 AM
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Would Dirk be willing to take a bench role? Having Dirk off the bench would be SICK.
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04-28-2015, 12:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sike
I agree, but I would like Dirk to be a 6th man.
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Never
Dirk starts until he retires
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04-28-2015, 01:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MFFL
Never
Dirk starts until he retires
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Lol no. Wouldn't be surprised to see Dirk off the bench next year, he has said so himself. Dude is too much of a negative defense and rebounding wise.... his shot isn't as automatic as it used to be.
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04-28-2015, 01:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tsar
Would Dirk be willing to take a bench role? Having Dirk off the bench would be SICK.
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He's alluded to it this season already. He knows if his shot isn't falling, which is a lot more miss nowadays that he is a complete liability on the floor.
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04-28-2015, 01:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by #41 Shoot em up
Lol no. Wouldn't be surprised to see Dirk off the bench next year, he has said so himself. Dude is too much of a negative defense and rebounding wise.... his shot isn't as automatic as it used to be.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by #41 Shoot em up
He's alluded to it this season already. He knows if his shot isn't falling, which is a lot more miss nowadays that he is a complete liability on the floor.
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When did Dirk say he'd take a bench role? That's news to me... Link?
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04-28-2015, 01:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Underdog
When did Dirk say he'd take a bench role? That's news to me... Link?
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Bird...
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04-28-2015, 02:26 PM
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#93
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kante
Bird...
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Bird told me not to listen to shootemup's bird
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04-28-2015, 02:46 PM
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Dirk has done enough for this franchise. Asking him to come off the bench is too much. I don't care if he doesn't close games or only plays 12-18 minutes but he's allowed to start until he hangs the jersey up
We owe him that much
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04-28-2015, 03:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Melonhead
Bird told me not to listen to shootemup's bird
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Be nice or leave. OR be nice AND leave -Erica
Last edited by EricaLubarsky; 04-28-2015 at 04:01 PM.
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04-28-2015, 03:11 PM
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Be nice or leave. OR be nice AND leave -Erica
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pass the rock to the german moses
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04-28-2015, 03:13 PM
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Be nice or leave. OR be nice AND leave -Erica
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04-28-2015, 03:16 PM
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Be nice or leave. -Erica
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pass the rock to the german moses
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04-28-2015, 03:19 PM
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Be nice or leave. OR be nice AND leave -Erica
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04-28-2015, 03:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by #41 Shoot em up
not all of us have basketball knowledge.
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Source of "knowledge":
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04-28-2015, 04:17 PM
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#101
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kante
Bird...
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Do we have this Bird's Bird Rights?!
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04-28-2015, 04:32 PM
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#102
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04-28-2015, 09:39 PM
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Im totally fine to dumb Harris somewhere to create more cap space...
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04-28-2015, 10:04 PM
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I'd rather have Dirk sit out back-to-back games and 3 games in 4 nights type of situations than to have him come off the bench permanently. I think in the playoffs he has shown he can still rebound if he's determined to, although his defense is still a minus overall. In the regular season I think he does take possessions off because he can't deliver in the full 30 mins he plays. I can see his mins cut a bit more to around 25-26 but less than that he won't be effective and have a good rhythm.
Only situation I see him coming off the bench is if LMA is onboard, which I find it to be a long shot.
Absent of any big name FA, I wouldn't mind seeing Tyson, Monte, Aminu, and Devin Harris back. I think Rondo and Amare are gone. Their replacements should hopefully be 3-point shooters or defensive stoppers (or both).
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04-28-2015, 10:08 PM
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Parsons ball handling was underused this season. I would like him to average at least 4 assists next season. Not sure it will happen though.
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04-28-2015, 10:31 PM
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#106
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sefant77
Im totally fine to dumb Harris somewhere to create more cap space...
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Co-sign
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04-29-2015, 12:03 AM
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@espn_macmahon: LaMarcus Aldridge buzz has started, but another potential Mavs prime summer target: DeAndre Jordan, who has made it known he's interested.
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04-29-2015, 12:05 AM
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Represented by Fegan who also represents Parsons, Barea, Amare, Marion.
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04-29-2015, 08:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FreshJive
@espn_macmahon: LaMarcus Aldridge buzz has started, but another potential Mavs prime summer target: DeAndre Jordan, who has made it known he's interested.
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As long as Jordan gets in here and starts working on free throws immediately. And I'd guess that means Chandler is gone or signing small money to come off the bench.
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04-29-2015, 09:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirk's Knee
As long as Jordan gets in here and starts working on free throws immediately. And I'd guess that means Chandler is gone or signing small money to come off the bench.
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I hate to say this because I love the guy, but Chandler ended up being fairly pedestrian for us in the playoffs... I don't know if it's because the lack of depth at center all season burned him out, or because Dwight was too much for him to handle, or just because our team defense was so awful that it nullified his greatest strengths, but he didn't really do any one thing well in this series. Considering his performance and his age, I'm not sure if I'm interested in bringing him back unless it's at a discount.
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04-29-2015, 09:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FreshJive
@espn_macmahon: LaMarcus Aldridge buzz has started, but another potential Mavs prime summer target: DeAndre Jordan, who has made it known he's interested.
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Sounds like DJ is just playing us to up his mkt value. Why would he want to leave the Clippers, who are better, younger, have a perfect point guard for him, and can pay him much more than we can? Doesn't make any sense.
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04-29-2015, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Wang Zhi Zhi
Sounds like DJ is just playing us to up his mkt value. Why would he want to leave the Clippers, who are better, younger, have a perfect point guard for him, and can pay him much more than we can? Doesn't make any sense.
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If the Clips are ousted in the First Round after taking a 2-0 lead I could see them not paying DJ.
Edit: Sign the beast! Can never have a big enough center. Except maybe Shawn Bradley.
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04-29-2015, 09:29 AM
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Uh Jordan is overrated as f***
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04-29-2015, 09:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sefant77
Uh Jordan is overrated as f***
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Defensively absolutely, he is merely above average and not near the DPOY caliber defender people make him out to be. Still he has showed considerable offensive potential, to where I can see him being near as efficient in a bigger role. Furthermore his rebounding and athleticism would be a ideal compliment to Dirk. But ultimately it would be about getting another good young player and improving the Mavs future outlook.
Look I love Tyson but he looked bad defensively after the hip thing, he was no where near as explosive as early in year and his rim protection and recoveries it showed.
Ultimately I am for Deandre, hopefully at a little less than the max he'd get (he'd only really get max money for 1 year but still not sure he's worth it, that being said sometimes overpaying in FA isn't a bad thing). There are definite arguments to both sides but I like getting a good young player.
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04-29-2015, 09:39 AM
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I don't get the whole trade Devin Harris for cap space thing, he's an injury risk but worth a lot more than his salary, he's one of best backup PG's in the league.
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04-29-2015, 10:01 AM
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#116
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Quote:
Originally Posted by #41 Shoot em up
Be nice or leave. OR be nice AND leave -Erica
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Surely, you didnt take this as a serious dig? I was joking
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04-29-2015, 10:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mavs777
I don't get the whole trade Devin Harris for cap space thing, he's an injury risk but worth a lot more than his salary, he's one of best backup PG's in the league.
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Yeah 4.053 mill really isn't a burden. Vet min for a guy of his experience would be 1.5 mill and he's not that much higher than that for a guy who can be one of the better relief PGs in the league when healthy.
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04-29-2015, 10:04 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Underdog
I hate to say this because I love the guy, but Chandler ended up being fairly pedestrian for us in the playoffs... I don't know if it's because the lack of depth at center all season burned him out, or because Dwight was too much for him to handle, or just because our team defense was so awful that it nullified his greatest strengths, but he didn't really do any one thing well in this series. Considering his performance and his age, I'm not sure if I'm interested in bringing him back unless it's at a discount.
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I'm not against replacing TC. He was totally out matched not only against Howard but really any of the better C's in the league. For all the talk of needing a better PG to compete, IMHO it was really our post play which killed us in the playoffs. Whoever we have starting at C next season, it would be wise to have a real backup option which RC will play consistent minutes.
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04-29-2015, 10:04 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Melonhead
Surely, you didnt take this as a serious dig? I was joking
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Um, that post was edited by EL because it had obscenities in it... And the poster has been banned.
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04-29-2015, 10:10 AM
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#120
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Originally Posted by Dirk's Knee
I'm not against replacing TC. He was totally out matched not only against Howard but really any of the better C's in the league. For all the talk of needing a better PG to compete, IMHO it was really our post play which killed us in the playoffs. Whoever we have starting at C next season, it would be wise to have a real backup option which RC will play consistent minutes.
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Or, you know, just find a center who doesn't have to severely limit their minutes because they're old. The need for a solid backup is diminished when you have a guy who can play 36 MPG... It's seriously time for the Mavericks to start getting younger.
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