Attention Iraqis!

[Evilmav2]

[Chiwas]

Hope they understand english.

[soulscape]

you are obsessed with this war...go see a psychiatrist

[LRB]

<< Hope they understand english. >>



That's what the pictures are for Chiwas. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

[nowitzki_prophecy]

Yea,i think EM2 growing interest has become a full grown obsesion(spl?).
we have ways to help you EvilM,we have ways.

[irontoad]

In evil's defense it is rather hard to at least not have this war always going on somewhere in the psyche; you can't help but hear about it every time you turn on the TV or even step outside. So I am 'obsessed' with it too, in a way, whether I want to be or not.

[Chiwas]

The entire world is obsessed with the Iraqi war. But as everything, it's going to pass quick.

The US is still receiving Somali people and it seems that nobody is noticing it because the black weekend was 9 years ago.

[LRB]

I bet no one is as obsessed as Saddam. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

[Chiwas]

Saddam is scared, really scared. This time isn't about to take him off Kuwait. This time is his head.

[Evilmav2]

Hope they understand English




Thankfully, they won't have to Chiwas...

As far as being obsessed is concerned, I hope not. But we are cursed to be living in &quot;interesting times&quot; so it is hard not to pay a lot of attention to this stuff. Now that we are days away from conflagration, not weeks, it is hard for a news junkie like me to keep from keeping on top of all of this business...

[nowitzki_prophecy]

<< But we are cursed to be living in &quot;interesting times&quot; so it is hard not to pay a lot of attention to this stuff. Now that we are days away from conflagration, not weeks, it is hard for a news junkie like me to keep from keeping on top of all of this business... >>



i think that if you look at any time of the knowen history you'll find something as interesting as this.forget knowen history,every ten years for the last hundred years had a couple of wars in them,and not the clean sweap we're going to have over here,but a real war with hundred of thousend kills,sometimes millions.you see,because there is nothing interesting going on,people are giving way way too much attention to the situation in Iraq.im not saying its nothing,but its not as big as the press made it to be.

[Evilmav2]

Unlike the world of fifty years ago, hundreds of thousands, indeed hundreds of millions, can now die in a matter of hours, not years. Nuclear horrors, and worldwide genetically engineered plagues that Hitler and Stalin might have dreamed of being able to employ, are now entering the arsenals of some of the worst, criminal miscreants on earth. Who is to say that the madmen and the power hungry of the world will refrain from using these terrible weapons?

For too long now, the free world has been blind to these dangers. For much of the last decade, the world has been carelessly strolling toward the brink of a disastrous precipice, and the only thing that fortuitously awoke us to the danger were the criminal attacks of 9-11. The murderous actions, and the power-hungry plotting of foreign maniacs is forcing the United States and our allies to take a stand, and try to fight back against the future darkness of nuclear holocaust and global plagues. The great democracies have saved the world from criminal despotisms and mass murderers twice this century, and providence willing, we will do so again...

The crazed nuclear threats of Kim Jong Il, and the murderous machinations of a villain like Hussein are just harbingers of future monsters and future dangers. If the United States and the free nations of the world will not stand up to these vile criminals, who will? And if we don't what will happen?

I can't pretend to know the answer to that question, but I will say that if the monsters are not stopped, our generation may bear the awful curse of living to see human death and suffering that staggeringly dwarfs any disasters previously weathered in the human story...

As the Chinese curse that I referred to earlier states, &quot;May you be cursed to live in interesting times&quot;. To be frank with you Prophecy, it really scares the absolute hell out of me just how &quot;interesting&quot; these times are becoming...

[LRB]

Nice post Evil. Nuclear weapons, and possibly even more scarey, biological weapons, give a whole new meaning and horror to war that has not been present througout history. The ver real and tangilble possibility of Rogue nations possessing and using these weapons is even more scary. The crazed leaders of these countries cannot be relied upon to be kept in line by the traditional doctrine of mutually assured self destrction. This is the stuff that nightmares are made of.

[soulscape]

EM2, imagine it has not been determined yet if the iraq has weapons of mass destruction (and it actually has not been determined yet). This leaves us with two possible scenarios:

1. Iraq does have weapons of mass destruction and the US goes ahead and destroys those weapons.

2. Iraq does not have weapons of mass destruction and therefore there is no need for the US to destroy any weapons.

It seems to me that you personally wish the first scenario is true and that scares me.
I think we all should at least wish that the second scenario was true.

You get my point? It seems to me you actually want Iraq to have weapons of mass destruction so you can have your war.

[Evilmav2]

Wrong.

The Iraqi's have spent decades in their quest to aquire nuclear weapons, and the aquisition, development, and use (particularly against civilians) of chemical and biological agents by Iraq has been well documented.

Hussein and the rest of his criminal enterprise need to be removed from power in order to ensure that his efforts to gain and develop the means to blackmail the Persian Gulf and the world, come to naught. Whether that means exile, a sincere and complete effort to disarm (something that he was given his last chance to do with 1441- a chance that he sneerfully squandered), or military action on the part of the U.S. and our allies, is irrelevant, except insofar as the consequences are concerned.

Going to war should be the last option in any diplomatic dispute, but in the case of Iraq it is rapidly becoming the only option. This crisis didn't start a few months ago; it started 13 years ago- it started as Iraqi invasion, rape, and murder descended upon the people of Kuwait- and it's genesis lay in responsibility to disarm to which Hussein agreed following the collapse of his Kuwaiti gamble. In the decade following the defeat of his aggression, Hussein proceeded to successfully scorn and ignore his responsibilities to the world's shallow security organ, the U.N...

But that time is over, and in a new era of global danger, we can no longer mouth weak platitudes in response to provocation and murder. No more ineffective UN resolutions; no more cruise missiles fired into the empty desert....

All of the shell games and conspiracies of the Hussein administration have sown the wind of this crisis, and in coming days Saddam will reap his due whirlwind. Hussein had a choice three months ago: whether to bring war upon his people, or to stop playing games in living up to the obligations to which he willingly aquiesed to at the end of the first gulf war.

Saddam Hussein made his choice, and now, unless he flees to a last retreat of exile, he will be buried by it...

[LRB]

Soulscape your opptions appear to influeneced by politics.

1. Iraq could already have weapons of mass destruction. In which case the US would most likely find them in an invasion (assuming that they are spirited away or destroyed by us in the bombing).

2. Iraq could be somewhere in the process of developing weapons of mass destruction. IN which case the US would keep this process from finishing by invasion.

3. Iraq could neigher have weapons of mass destruction nor be working on them. Considering the preponderance of evidence to the contrary and Saddam's reluctance to let the UN inspectors verify this for well over a decade, this is highly unlikely. Still by sponsoring terrorists, Saddam needs to be removed for that even if he has nothing to do with weapons of mass destruction.

[Evilmav2]

Attention Iraqi's! Feel free to express your shock and awe, as you meet the MOAB...

Air Force tests MOAB monster bomb
From the National Desk
Published 3/11/2003 4:15 PM



EGLIN AIR FORCE BASE, Fla., March 11 (UPI) -- The U.S. Air Force successfully tested its 21,000-pound MOAB monster bomb for the first time Tuesday in a remote western area of Eglin Air Force Base, a base spokeswoman confirmed.

&quot;We understand it successful. It did detonate,&quot; civilian spokeswoman Lois Walsh said. &quot;As far as noise complaints we have not gotten any so far.&quot;

Gen. Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, did not rule out use of the MOAB, or &quot;massive ordnance air blast&quot; bomb, in a war with Iraq.

&quot;Anything we have in our arsenal at almost any stage of development could be used,&quot; Myers said. &quot;The message here is we are going to try to improve our conventional weapons.&quot;

Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld deadpanned, &quot;This is not small,&quot; and did not downplay its potential impact on the attitude of Iraqi troops.

&quot;There is a psychological component to all aspects of warfare,&quot; Rumsfeld said.

The MOAB's explosive blast is so massive it is similar to a small nuclear weapon, although he damage is much less, the Pensacola News-Journal reported.

Known to many as &quot;the mother of all bombs,&quot; it is the biggest non-nuclear bomb in United States' arsenal.

It was dropped by a C-130 cargo plane and guided by satellite at about 2 p.m. EST.

The Air Force said it is an updated version of the 15,000-pound Daisy Cutter, first used in the Vietnam War to clear helicopter landing zones.

The Daisy Cutter was nicknamed Commando Vault in Vietnam and Daisy Cutter when it was used in Afghanistan. Although it was designed to clear the jungle of foliage, but it was used in Afghanistan as an anti-personnel weapon and for intimidation -- as will be the case for the MOAB.

The Daisy Cutter has a lethal radius reported at from 300 to 900 feet, but there are no such estimates for the MOAB, although the area is believed to be significantly wider.

Residents of the area were warned of the plans for the explosion Monday and told that all precautions would be taken to assure their safety.

Copyright © 2001-2003 United Press International

[soulscape]

funny, you wanna attack a country to prevent them from having weapons of mass destruction and employ weapons of mass destruction in your attack.
Where's the logic to that?
Using weapons of mass destruction is actually worse then just intending to build them.

[LRB]

Soulscape your rhetoric is showing. The US cause against Iraq is not to Just prevent them from developing weapons of mass destruction. It's not just to prevent them from using weapons of mass destruction. It's to prevent them from developing and using weapons of mass destruction where the primary target is innocent civlians.

Now the MOAB is one big ass bomb, but it is not classified as weapon of mass destruction. It's intended targert will be massed military units. It is an excellent replacement for tatical nukes which served much the same purpose but let that nast radiation residue. Plus this bomb's destructive power is much less.

The United States will not target innocent civilians. We will do all that is reasonably in our power to insure that civilians are not hurt. However some will be. This could easily be avoided by Saddam's surrender.

In short, the United States is acting to defend itself, its innocent civilians, and innocent civlians around the world. Of course some people would just prefer to stick their heads in the sand and do nothing, until they are killed by Iraqi weapons of mass destruction.