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Underdog · 07-05-2016, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DoYouEvenLift

Just figured out since we're over the cap Seth Curry got our room MLE right? So we have nothing? (BAE?)

Curry is getting the MLE, pretty sure we sacrificed our BAE somewhere in the process of re-signing Dirk (can't find a link though...)

Underdog · 07-05-2016, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BPo001

If you're going to sign anyone to sit on the pine and waive a towel I'd rather it be a young guy we can groom to hopefully contribute next year and beyond.

Even JET agrees with you...

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“It would be a great option for me, No. 1 for my family (since) our home base is in Dallas,” Terry said. “I understand from all things I’ve heard that the Mavericks are going young and so I’m 38 and I don’t fit that bill.”

jleefilled · 07-05-2016, 10:55 PM

Yeah, the more I think about it, the more I realize JET isn't a good fit on this team right now. He would be too redundant with veterans like Harris and Barea still on the roster.

jleefilled · 07-05-2016, 11:36 PM

Anyhow, we have to see them play, but overall, I'm amazed at how the MBT recovered after how bleak it looked shortly after free agency began. I kind of wonder what would have happened if they didn't have the good fortune of Durant choosing to go to GS. Would we still be agonizing over the departure of Parsons? With the MBT's track record, I bet they would have pulled off a trade of some sort to appease us someway. I'm excited to see if Seth can carry over the momentum from the end of last season going forward. The Mavs need a couple guys that can create their own shot, and from what I've read about Seth, he seems to fit the mold.

spreedom · 07-06-2016, 01:41 AM

If we're paring down to roster spots 14 and 15, I'd much rather give a guy like Brandon Ashley a three-year partially guaranteed deal than rehashing Charlie again. He was a genuine surprise two years ago and a good soldier last year, but I don't really see what value he adds this year with the big commitment the team has made to Powell.

Ashley has pretty good potential as a shooter and was a standout rebounder on the Legends last season... I'd rather see if he can be molded into a rotation player.

I also like Jordan Adams on paper. Not too familiar with his game, but he looks to be a walking, talking triple double waiting to happen.

Melonhead · 07-06-2016, 08:36 AM

Deron/JJ

Wes/Curry/Harris

Barnes/Anderson

Dirk/Barnes/Powell

Bogut/Mejri/Hammons

Im kind of worried that Anderson/Powell wont get their minutes and RC will cling to Matthews for 47 minutes each game next season.

SMC0007 · 07-06-2016, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

Deron/JJ

Wes/Curry/Harris

Barnes/Anderson

Dirk/Barnes/Powell

Bogut/Mejri/Hammons

Im kind of worried that Anderson/Powell wont get their minutes and RC will cling to Matthews for 47 minutes each game next season.

I understand the worry due to his history with young guys, but Imo RC can't afford to not give Anderson consistent minutes this year. It's painfully obvious he deserves it and with Barnes being able to get PF minutes he can get time at SF. Powell can get minutes at PF and Center with Zaza gone leaving only Mejri and Hammons.

Bryan_Wilson · 07-06-2016, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by spreedom

If we're paring down to roster spots 14 and 15, I'd much rather give a guy like Brandon Ashley a three-year partially guaranteed deal than rehashing Charlie again. He was a genuine surprise two years ago and a good soldier last year, but I don't really see what value he adds this year with the big commitment the team has made to Powell.

Ashley has pretty good potential as a shooter and was a standout rebounder on the Legends last season... I'd rather see if he can be molded into a rotation player.

I'm on board with Brandon Ashley. He doesn't stand out to me but he just seems like a guy who will be where you need him to be and contribute someway, somehow.

BigDog63 · 07-06-2016, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by NeedlesKane

I heard this morning on the radio that Dirk is being rewarded for his sacrifices in pursuit of another title with a 2 year $40 million contract. I'm quite pleased that the front office took care of him.

Rewarded for his sacrifices, or the FO apologizing that they didn't get much done with the extra money he provided them? It would be interesting to find out if this was an offer the FO put out there, or if it was the proposal Dirk put on the table. I could easily see him thinking that he got basically nothing for the money he left on the table, so he might as well take it back.

EricaLubarsky · 07-06-2016, 12:01 PM

Evans traded away with enough cash to pay his salary. NBD

sefant77 · 07-06-2016, 12:12 PM

Yepp, they are making space to sign Jason Thompson and Gerald Green...the missing piece for the Dallas Warriors

rimrocker · 07-06-2016, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

Deron/JJ

Wes/Curry/Harris

Barnes/Anderson

Dirk/Barnes/Powell

Bogut/Mejri/Hammons

Im kind of worried that Anderson/Powell wont get their minutes and RC will cling to Matthews for 47 minutes each game next season.

I think Anderson will be a big part of the regular rotation but I'm still wondering about Powell. Barnes will get most of the backup minutes at PF if Rick stays consistent with the past (e.g. Marion, Parsons) and we seem to be in pretty good shape and deep at center.

I've wondered since the signing of Lee last season and emergence of Mejri where Powell really fits on this team. I'm guessing they expect him to replace Lee but when Parsons was healthy even Lee moved to center. Do we really want a heavy dose of Powell at center when we have Bogut, Mejri and hopefully a productive Hammons?

It will be interesting how Rick figures out a rotation that will work but wouldn't surprise me if Powell/Anderson become another Wright/Crowder situation if we show any signs of success early but struggle offensively.

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-06-2016, 12:28 PM

Mavs might bring back...

RODDY B?!

http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dall...roddy-beaubois

Skywalker · 07-06-2016, 12:38 PM

DO IT MBT

sefant77 · 07-06-2016, 12:39 PM

Fish trying to sell soon the rest of his Free Roddy shirts

Skywalker · 07-06-2016, 12:43 PM

Macmahon reporting this as well

@espn_macmahon
Former Mavs first-round pick Rodrigue Beaubois will get legitimate consideration for one of the team's remaining... http://es.pn/29uzjAh

jacktruth · 07-06-2016, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Skywalker

Macmahon reporting this as well

@espn_macmahon
Former Mavs first-round pick Rodrigue Beaubois will get legitimate consideration for one of the team's remaining... http://es.pn/29uzjAh

I wonder what's changed. Did he grow? Can he shoot now?

Budapest Maverick · 07-06-2016, 12:58 PM

For the veteran minimum, Roddy would be a low risk/high reward signing, provided that Carlisle doesn't try to play him at the PG spot. He has a 6'10 wingspan, put him in a scoring role and let him do his thing.

DoYouEvenLift · 07-06-2016, 01:08 PM

Roddy B GOAT, was once untradeable unless it was for Lebron.

rabbitproof · 07-06-2016, 01:10 PM

Deron/Harris/JJB
Wes/Curry/Roddy
Barnes/JA
Dirk/Barnes/Powell
Bogut/Powell/Meijri/Hammons

Let's do it.

Bogut will probably miss 20 games, as will Devin. Deron probably 15. Dirk will sit 5-10.

Plenty of burn to go around.

AO41 · 07-06-2016, 01:17 PM

I think with all the guards we have, Harris might be moved. He is not the best option at PG and with Curry coming on and times even Anderson being able to play some SG as well as other, I think we will look to move at least one of our guards.

With the way Felton played last year, I think he would be a bigger asset then Harris. I want to say bigger than JJ as well, but JJ is so good with the pick and roll and with Dirk.

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-06-2016, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by AO41

I think with all the guards we have, Harris might be moved. He is not the best option at PG and with Curry coming on and times even Anderson being able to play some SG as well as other, I think we will look to move at least one of our guards.

With the way Felton played last year, I think he would be a bigger asset then Harris. I want to say bigger than JJ as well, but JJ is so good with the pick and roll and with Dirk.

People suggesting we trade Harris crack me up. He is literally the only pg on the roster that can play defense at his position. You aren't just giving up that willy nilly in a league full of elite guards that need to be slowed down.

And Harris isn't even the elite defender he once was, but he is still light years ahead of the other pgs on the roster. No player is better at drawing charges than Harris.

FromDownTown! · 07-06-2016, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

People suggesting we trade Harris crack me up. He is literally the only pg on the roster that can play defense at his position. You aren't just giving up that willy nilly in a league full of elite guards that need to be slowed down.

And Harris isn't even the elite defender he once was, but he is still light years ahead of the other pgs on the roster. No player is better at drawing charges than Harris.

Agreed 100%

yahyes · 07-06-2016, 02:29 PM

Still some interesting forward centers to look at adding like Jordan Hill or James Johnson.

Underdog · 07-06-2016, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

People suggesting we trade Harris crack me up. He is literally the only pg on the roster that can play defense at his position. You aren't just giving up that willy nilly in a league full of elite guards that need to be slowed down.

And Harris isn't even the elite defender he once was, but he is still light years ahead of the other pgs on the roster. No player is better at drawing charges than Harris.

Speaking of which, what the hell happened to D-Will's defense?? Dude used to be one of the better defensive PGs in the league, now he looks like he isn't even trying.

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-06-2016, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

Speaking of which, what the hell happened to D-Will's defense?? Dude used to be one of the better defensive PGs in the league, now he looks like he isn't even trying.

Was he? I always heard he was mediocre even in his heyday, but I could be wrong.

Melonhead · 07-06-2016, 03:22 PM

I wish we could move one of our guards, but they all have a little bit that we need. Harris defense alone keeps him on the team, and with the new cap, you have to keep a guy like that. Plus hes a fan fav. Lot of minutes to be spread around though.

yahyes · 07-06-2016, 04:25 PM

Roddy B this past year in euro league

I would say he can be just a perimeter shooter on our bench to have in case. For right now. But health.

FreshJive · 07-06-2016, 04:30 PM

According to NBA Miner charges and offensive fouls drawn break down as such:

Devin- charges drawn 12, offensive fouls drawn 30

Deron- charges drawn 11, offensive fouls drawn 25

Barea- charges drawn 1, offensive fouls drawn 35

Not sure how reliable the numbers are. Ersan Ilyasova and Demarcus Cousins were the top two charge drawers.

sefant77 · 07-06-2016, 05:26 PM

Easy gamble with Roddy for roster spot #15

Dan1 · 07-06-2016, 05:31 PM

Roddy?! Seriously? Id rather gamble on a rookie from SL

spreedom · 07-06-2016, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

People suggesting we trade Harris crack me up. He is literally the only pg on the roster that can play defense at his position. You aren't just giving up that willy nilly in a league full of elite guards that need to be slowed down.

And Harris isn't even the elite defender he once was, but he is still light years ahead of the other pgs on the roster. No player is better at drawing charges than Harris.

I'm probably in the minority on this, but I see Harris as being at least as valuable Barea, if not more so. I like his ability to build chemistry with pick and roll/rim-running bench bigs and think he's really effective as a change of pace defensive guard off of the bench. If he's our #1 backup at point guard we might be in a little trouble, but if/when Deron or Barea have their annual injury spells, Devin is a really nice security blanket to have.

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

I wish we could move one of our guards, but they all have a little bit that we need. Harris defense alone keeps him on the team, and with the new cap, you have to keep a guy like that. Plus hes a fan fav. Lot of minutes to be spread around though.

This shouldn't be overlooked, either. Against a $94M salary cap, Harris and Barea combine to make about $8.5M. That's extremely good value for what they bring. I would expect both guys to make at least $3-4M more per season apiece if they were free agents right now, or especially next year. Even if there isn't a big 82-game need for either guy, at their comparatively low salaries it doesn't make much sense to trade them away unless you're making a considerable talent upgrade. I wouldn't be opposed to some kind of trade like that, but I like having both guys as options to play about 20MPG each off the bench.

And it should also be said, both guys are helping foster what is hopefully a bigger commitment to continuity.

Bryan_Wilson · 07-06-2016, 06:12 PM

58 games across all competition last year-

14.4ppg on 46.1%3pt 50.6%fg 61.8%eFG
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...eaubois-1.html

He won't shoot like that in the NBA obviously but as a 15th guy it's worth a look IMO.

NeedlesKane · 07-06-2016, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Was he? I always heard he was mediocre even in his heyday, but I could be wrong.

Mediocre defensively? Please do explain. He was in the conversation for being the best point guard in the NBA with CP3.

Skywalker · 07-06-2016, 06:41 PM

Any word on what we will get back on the Evans trade?

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-06-2016, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedlesKane

Mediocre defensively? Please do explain. He was in the conversation for being the best point guard in the NBA with CP3.

Oh I know very well that he was one of the best pgs in the game, but I never thought he was a great defensive player. I'd be happy to be proved wrong though.

NeedlesKane · 07-06-2016, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Skywalker

Any word on what we will get back on the Evans trade?

We recently traded that Indian player for Bogut. I bet it was a similar trade.

Underdog · 07-06-2016, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedlesKane

We recently traded that Indian player for Bogut. I bet it was a similar trade.

No we didn't... That was a joke.

MFFL · 07-06-2016, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Skywalker

Any word on what we will get back on the Evans trade?

NBA.com
Two people with knowledge of the deal say Dallas is trading forward Jeremy Evans and cash to Indiana

No word on what comes back to us. Probably either a heavily protected 2nd or rights to a terrible foreign player

NeedlesKane · 07-06-2016, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

No we didn't... That was a joke.

I was fooled. I have to see how we actually acquired him then.