GDT game 28 - Mavs (7-21) at Trailblazers (13-17) 9:00 NBATV/FSSW

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by rimrocker

Not suggesting a trade....just a hypothetical question to see what Barnes is worth to other teams.

but why?

A basketball version of Gift of the Magi?

[Thebo]

Originally Posted by rimrocker

Not suggesting a trade....just a hypothetical question to see what Barnes is worth to other teams.

You were rather specific by saying draft picks. Not every NBA team has the ability to show through draft picks how much they would value Barnes. There is no need to lie to anyone that you would at least entertain the idea if the offer was made. Something that many here would not be interested of even hearing about.

[Budapest Maverick]

Originally Posted by rimrocker

Not suggesting a trade....just a hypothetical question to see what Barnes is worth to other teams.

I don't think anybody would give up a top 10 pick for him. I know I wouldn't. He is 24, with a low ceiling, can't make the three ball consistently, can't get to the line, he screams second option. That's not a top 10 pick in a strong draft.

[rimrocker]

Originally Posted by Budapest Maverick

I don't think anybody would give up a top 10 pick for him. I know I wouldn't. He is 24, with a low ceiling, can't make the three ball consistently, can't get to the line, he screams second option. That's not a top 10 pick in a strong draft.

Yeah, the premise of the question is to see what his value would be to other teams in terms of draft pick value. I don't see a team giving up a top 10 pick either but Cuban would be stupid to not entertain offers. I'm not sure other teams would value him the same as we do though. Yes, he is a tremendous bright spot for us this year but I still see him as a tier 3 combo 3/4 who would be a nice 2nd option and a tier 2 ceiling.

I understand why others might consider Barnes untouchable based on his current play but unfortunately the Mavs will most likely get worse (if that is even possible) before they get better and Barnes is just starting his prime. The reality is that we'll probably be in the lotto at least 4 more years before we become relevant again and Barnes will be pushing 30 and starting to exit his prime.
Other teams like Boston and Lakers are a few years ahead of us in the rebuild process so who knows what they might offer to get a nice young 24yo entering his prime who might be more suited for their situation and goals instead of a 19 yo that would take several years to develop.

So IDK.....rebuilding from scratch with Fultz/Jackson wouldn't exactly be demoralizing to me if the opportunity happened to presented itself.

[Budapest Maverick]

Originally Posted by tap2390

Trading Barnes would be a fantastic way to ensure we NEVER sign a FA again.

What is your basis for that opinion? Players get traded all the time. One of the most frequent mantras in the NBA is "this is business". Every player understands this.

[Thebo]

Originally Posted by rimrocker

Other teams like Boston and Lakers are a few years ahead of us in the rebuild process so who knows what they might offer to get a nice young 24yo entering his prime who might be more suited for their situation and goals instead of a 19 yo that would take several years to develop.

I do not get the constant Boston hype. Excluding Bradly, how many minutes are the players getting that they drafted? They have retooled. I do not even consider them as having rebuilt something. They simply stayed relevant. They still need that star element and much of it will depend on how they use Brooklyn's pick this season.

I do not consider anyone ahead unless they have real number 1 option. Yes, Boston has Horford, who they did not draft, but his prime is reaching end year. It would not surprise me if in few years his contract actually looks bad. This will not matter much if Boston gets lucky in the draft though.

Originally Posted by Budapest Maverick

What is your basis for that opinion? Players get traded all the time. One of the most frequent mantras in the NBA is "this is business". Every player understands this.

I think that this was referenced towards marquee FA players. I am not claiming that Barnes is that, but you have to consider that many number 2 and even 3 options like to consider themselves as marquee, star players. Why would they include Mavericks in their road trips when they could look that Mavs traded their celebrated player in the first year of his contract?

Look at Nets, nobody even entertains the idea of signing there, even though they have not done similar thing. Nobody includes Kings or Philly. Even big market like Knicks have to resort to trades.

[EricaLubarsky]

Oh dear god this thread has become a train wreck

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Funny thing is that Barnes was 8-8 from the line in this game because the refs finally blew that little silver toy of theirs.