10-16-2017, 12:28 AM
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NBA Season 17-18: General Thread
Grizzlies move Chandler Parsons to bench
https://www.thescore.com/news/1398918
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10-16-2017, 01:29 AM
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10-16-2017, 08:56 AM
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He's due $23 million this season. I cannot begin to explain how happy I am we didn't re-sign that POS.
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10-16-2017, 10:44 AM
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Its amazing that he got TWO max contract offers...Grizzlies and Blazers.
Freaking lucky 2016 FA class
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10-16-2017, 11:02 AM
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And that is why you don't offer max to a guy who has injury issues.
Even 13-17 would be too much for him when injured, but goodness-- 23 for a guy who hasn't played more than 69 games a season since 2013-2014
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10-16-2017, 02:42 PM
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Free agent center Kendrick Perkins, a 13-year NBA veteran, has agreed to a deal to join the Cleveland Cavaliers-affiliated Canton Charge of the NBA’s G League, league sources tell ESPN. Perkins had the opportunity to start a professional coaching career with the Cavaliers, but is determined to return to the league as a player. In a text message on Monday, he told ESPN.com: “I’m serious and I’m committed to this (opportunity). I will sacrifice to show the NBA.” – v
Why are teams still signing this bum? He didn't do shit in his prime.
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10-16-2017, 03:00 PM
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Why are teams still signing this bum? He didn't do shit in his prime.
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He was a decent double-double guy for a few years and stuck around the league for 12 years
On the other hand, his fundamentals aren't terribly great, so not sure why people would want him to coach. His entire game was strength and effort, rather than boxing out and timing.
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10-16-2017, 04:01 PM
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Wow, Grizz just waived their first round pick from the 2016 draft. Wade Baldwin picked 17. Isn't he the second first round pick from that draft waived this summer? Either way, that was an awful draft class with some terrible scouting.
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10-16-2017, 04:27 PM
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Months of N.B.A. Sound and Fury, Signifying No Threat to the Warriors https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/16/s...warriors-.html
Marc Stein is back!
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10-16-2017, 06:03 PM
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Wow, Grizz just waived their first round pick from the 2016 draft. Wade Baldwin picked 17. Isn't he the second first round pick from that draft waived this summer? Either way, that was an awful draft class with some terrible scouting.
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Two first-rounders waived AND three overseas-- probably to never be seen again. Overall number one hasn't even played a regular season game as well.
2016 was truly an awful draft.
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10-16-2017, 06:09 PM
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Pj Dozier signs two way contract with the Thunder. Good for him.
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10-16-2017, 06:12 PM
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Pj Dozier signs two way contract with the Thunder. Good for him.
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Always liked the kid. He's raw as heck, but that defense was solid (although fundamentally a little reckless). His shooting was incredibly streaky and only ended up 36.8%/33.3% overall
Maybe his sub-par shooting will be a bonus on a volume shooting team like OKC
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10-16-2017, 06:27 PM
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LMA and Spurs agree to 3/72 extension per Woj.
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10-16-2017, 06:46 PM
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Pj Dozier signs two way contract with the Thunder. Good for him.
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Damn, was hoping he'd fall to the Legends, but knew he was too good not to get a 2-way.
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10-16-2017, 07:04 PM
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Damn, was hoping he'd fall to the Legends, but knew he was too good not to get a 2-way.
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Not that I hate Jeff Withey or anything but ugh, Missing out on Dozier for Withey makes me really really sad.
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10-16-2017, 07:17 PM
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Not that I hate Jeff Withey or anything but ugh, Missing out on Dozier for Withey makes me really really sad.
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I kinda feel the same way now that Dozier signed w/ OKC. I think Withey can be a useful player for us this year bc I expect Mejri to be moved at some point, but I think Dozier was a good player to hang on to with our youth movement.
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10-16-2017, 07:30 PM
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Withey is 500% more likely to play than Dozier
Withey is a serviceable third stringer playing behind two injury-prone guys in Dirk and Noel
Dozier is a defensive wing who doesn’t have great handles nor a good jumper
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10-16-2017, 07:43 PM
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Not that I hate Jeff Withey or anything but ugh, Missing out on Dozier for Withey makes me really really sad.
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Yeah, but we pretty much have to collect bigs with Noel's future up in the air... Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Powell and/or Mejri end up on the block.
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10-16-2017, 08:18 PM
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Yeah, but we pretty much have to collect bigs with Noel's future up in the air... Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Powell and/or Mejri end up on the block.
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Also Dirk, Noel, and Mejri are injury magnets
Matthews, Barnes, and DFS (who play Dozier’s position) are Iron men
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10-16-2017, 09:06 PM
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Yeah I see the injury concerns but at the same time, I wouldn't put Barnes at the wing spot when thinking about depth. I don't have any numbers because it was preseason but I saw Barnes basically exclusively at the 4. And while he "could" play the 3, the same could be said for Powell playing the 5. Plus I don't think any of us are thinking we could do much more than be a first round exit team. I liked Dozier's upside enough to take a chance that if Noel or Dirk got banged up Powell could spend a few minutes at the 5 like he's done every year he's been here, it's not like you can get worse than 30th in rebounding.
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10-16-2017, 09:47 PM
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Yeah I see the injury concerns but at the same time, I wouldn't put Barnes at the wing spot when thinking about depth. I don't have any numbers because it was preseason but I saw Barnes basically exclusively at the 4. And while he "could" play the 3, the same could be said for Powell playing the 5. Plus I don't think any of us are thinking we could do much more than be a first round exit team. I liked Dozier's upside enough to take a chance that if Noel or Dirk got banged up Powell could spend a few minutes at the 5 like he's done every year he's been here, it's not like you can get worse than 30th in rebounding.
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Yeah not saying he’ll play much SF even though it’s his most effective position, but if Matthews and DFS were injured, he’d certainly get some time there.
Dozier couldn’t play SG either— no team in the league can afford to have a defense-only guy at the second guard spot.
That and Rick seems to really like Harris and/or Curry at the three with two other guards. Dozier was easy to cheer for but impossible to see getting actual minutes. He’s a rough project at least 1-2 years from being NBA talent. Love his defensive versatility and potential but in the NBA you have to play both sides.
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10-17-2017, 10:14 AM
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Once two-way contracts are signed, are they set in stone? My inclination was to give Motley the last roster spot, and free up the two-way spot for Dozier for the upside he and Clavell may provide. I do understand the reasons why they'd like to keep Withey around. And truth be told, he looked decent for what he is going to be to this team. Tough decisions, and wish nothing but the best for Dozier. He should have stayed one more year in college, however.
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10-17-2017, 10:31 AM
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Once two-way contracts are signed, are they set in stone? My inclination was to give Motley the last roster spot, and free up the two-way spot for Dozier for the upside he and Clavell may provide. I do understand the reasons why they'd like to keep Withey around. And truth be told, he looked decent for what he is going to be to this team. Tough decisions, and wish nothing but the best for Dozier. He should have stayed one more year in college, however.
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Nope. Two-way deals are fluid for the team holding the contract. For instance, we could waive a player like McRoberts and upgrade Motley or Clavell's contracts to a full NBA contract. Another team cannot sign those two since they are on a Mavericks contract. The only thing team have to have is room on their 15-man roster to do so. Players are usually given minimum contracts, but after two years on a two-way, players can get early-bird rights after finishing their second year.
Once Dozier signs his two-way contract with OKC, we can't offer him a contract (two-way or normal NBA), because he'll be under contract with OKC.
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10-17-2017, 10:44 AM
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I really really hope that Lebron kneels tonight during the anthem. Epic incoming twitter battle between president shitheat and the nba stars.
And Adam Silver cant suspend his cash cow...
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10-17-2017, 05:02 PM
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I really really hope that Lebron kneels tonight during the anthem. Epic incoming twitter battle between president shitheat and the nba stars.
And Adam Silver cant suspend his cash cow...
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Oh vomit. Just realized this is going to be a thing again.
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10-17-2017, 05:37 PM
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Please please please don't let Trump and his stupid drama also infect basketball. Its the only thing I have left.
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10-17-2017, 05:57 PM
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Sources: Bulls forwards Bobby Portis and Nikola Mirotic were involved in serious altercation in practice today, leaving Mirotic hospitalized and out indefinitely. Story coming.
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waaat
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10-17-2017, 06:02 PM
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Holy crap.
Some people are saying Portis broke Mirotic's nose and he's getting screened for head trauma/concussion.
Geez. That team went from decent to jailblazers almost overnight.
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10-17-2017, 06:28 PM
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Holy crap.
Some people are saying Portis broke Mirotic's nose and he's getting screened for head trauma/concussion.
Geez. That team went from decent to jailblazers almost overnight.
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The destruction path that follows Rondo continues. Depleted Mavs assets, within a year boogie gets traded for pennies on the dollar, and Chicago passed on DSJ for Markk and now they are brawling in their own locker room. Chicago gets double punishment because they also have bad karma from signing wade. New Orleans is a ticking time bomb.
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10-17-2017, 06:34 PM
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Bulls FO is pure garbage
Bulls owner just cares about profits
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10-17-2017, 07:03 PM
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Vincent goodwill:
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Mirotic does have a concussion and broken bones in his face. Expect Bobby Portis' suspension to be significant
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Multiple broken face bones. Mirotic lost that one.
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10-17-2017, 07:16 PM
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Bulls are going to void the contract, they are allowed to do it
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10-17-2017, 07:16 PM
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The destruction path that follows Rondo continues. Depleted Mavs assets, within a year boogie gets traded for pennies on the dollar, and Chicago passed on DSJ for Markk and now they are brawling in their own locker room. Chicago gets double punishment because they also have bad karma from signing wade. New Orleans is a ticking time bomb.
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Hurricane Rondo gunna wreck the Big Easy.
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10-17-2017, 07:20 PM
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And Gordon Hayward is done for the year. Broken leg or ankle. Gruesome.
Edit: Fractured ankle
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2...-celtics-debut
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10-17-2017, 07:25 PM
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10 minutes into the NBA season and Hayward is out with one of the nastiest injuries I've seen in basketball.
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That might be a career-ender right there...
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10-17-2017, 07:42 PM
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Luck of the Irish
Maybe Brigham Young had it right
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10-17-2017, 07:44 PM
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10 minutes into the NBA season and Hayward is out with one of the nastiest injuries I've seen in basketball.
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I think that college kid and Paul George was worse, at least for a spectator.
Anyway, horrible for him, the team, the East.
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10-17-2017, 07:58 PM
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