06-02-2018, 09:28 PM
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Lol at Tatum for 5. Why wouldn’t they just trade him for #1. Assuming they want someone soooo bad at 5 they’d trade Tatum for him. Which is laughable.
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06-02-2018, 09:32 PM
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I’d do Brown, Rozier and Sacs 1st next year, in a heartbeat. Especially if you think you can flip Wes, Rozier and our 1st next year for Beal, Oubre and a bad contract. Just dreaming...
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06-02-2018, 09:53 PM
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It wont happen. Boston wont give up Brown and other teams wont take a Rozier/Sac/Grizz-Pick package...
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06-02-2018, 10:10 PM
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I think the point is that we shouldn't trade the pick unless we are truly blown away by the offer. Especially if it involves those fkin asset hoarding celtics who took a rondo sized shit on us in the last trade.
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06-03-2018, 09:22 AM
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18 days
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06-03-2018, 10:19 AM
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Fish is the literal worst
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06-03-2018, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
Fish is the literal worst
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2nd that.
I feel this is a really deep draft - time to buy additional picks.
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06-03-2018, 12:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
Fish is the literal worst
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What did that clown say now?
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06-03-2018, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
Fish is the literal worst
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I don't care about him posting BS about the Mavs as he is one of the few that at least attempts to cover the them in depth.
The twitter stuff is just awful. The world would be a better place if twitter just spontaneously combusted.
I don't know who started the stupid ass 5th pick to the Celtics, but boy he is just throwing gas on something that is IMO nothing.
I bet half the league has called about the 5th pick. Tough. Mavs earned that shizzle.
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06-03-2018, 04:15 PM
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Fish is the literal worst
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Pretty much the only thing in this thread we all agree on.
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06-03-2018, 05:56 PM
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Pretty much the only thing in this thread we all agree on.
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06-03-2018, 07:46 PM
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Reading some Celtics boards and had to laugh.
So many ppl claiming Rozier+Sac pick (often not even the Mem pick included) would be such a good trade for Dallas or Memphis
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06-03-2018, 09:46 PM
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Reading some Celtics boards and had to laugh.
So many ppl claiming Rozier+Sac pick (often not even the Mem pick included) would be such a good trade for Dallas or Memphis
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Rozier is DSJ lite.
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06-04-2018, 02:21 AM
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None of the Top5 Teams will trade their Pick since there are potentially 5 Superstars in the Draft pending Porters Medical.
The Offer would Need to be crazy good especially for the Mavs who can use any of the Bigs and Doncic.
The only way i see the Mavs even considering Trading is if Ayton, Bagley, Bamba and Doncic go 1-4 and Porters Medical Comes back negative.
Even than they might think about Jaren Jackson at 5.
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06-04-2018, 09:06 AM
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Unfollowed Fish a long time ago and my twitter experience has been tons better. Guy is a hack.
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06-04-2018, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by SMC0007
Rozier is DSJ lite.
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And Mavs and Grizzlies have a strong need at PG
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06-04-2018, 01:02 PM
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I could see both teams not wanting to do Brown for #5. The two clubs are in different positions and have different needs.
The Mavericks need to get a biggest star they can out of the pick no matter the risk, while the Celtics need to not take a risk and go with the surer thing.
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06-04-2018, 04:52 PM
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@tim_cato: I'm told the Mavericks would be "unlikely to do the (Jaylen) Brown deal in any scenario," given how many prospects they like in the 3-8 range
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06-04-2018, 05:44 PM
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Sounds like a pass on MPJ the way I read it from Sefko...
Eddie Sefko
@SportsDayDFW - As mentioned earlier, if the back is healthy, he might be the steal of the draft. If there's any issue whatsoever, pass. They need big wing players who can slide to power forward, so he'd be a great fit. Again, only if he's 100-percent healthy.
https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dal...may-22-ask-now
Just realized when that chat happened on May 22nd.
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06-04-2018, 06:05 PM
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Sounds like a pass on MPJ the way I read it from Sefko...
Eddie Sefko
@SportsDayDFW - As mentioned earlier, if the back is healthy, he might be the steal of the draft. If there's any issue whatsoever, pass. They need big wing players who can slide to power forward, so he'd be a great fit. Again, only if he's 100-percent healthy.
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MPJ to Dallas confirmed.
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06-04-2018, 06:10 PM
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@tim_cato: I'm told the Mavericks would be "unlikely to do the (Jaylen) Brown deal in any scenario," given how many prospects they like in the 3-8 range
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Nice. That’s how you gain leverage to get one of those 2019 picks too. We would be stupid to refuse a deal for Brown, #27, and a 2019 first unless we’re convinced Bamba is a healthier Embiid.
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06-04-2018, 06:49 PM
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Nice. That’s how you gain leverage to get one of those 2019 picks too. We would be stupid to refuse a deal for Brown, #27, and a 2019 first unless we’re convinced Bamba is a healthier Embiid.
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Can't tell if serious... This "rumor" has been bullshit from the get-go -- the Mavs aren't in contact with Boston. And just because the Celtics are interested in Bamba doesn't mean the Mavs don't have better options than him at #5... What would be stupid is dealing with Danny Ainge again -- after the ink dries we'll probably find out that Brown is secretly dating a Kardashian or something.
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06-04-2018, 07:05 PM
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Quote:
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Nice. That’s how you gain leverage to get one of those 2019 picks too. We would be stupid to refuse a deal for Brown, #27, and a 2019 first unless we’re convinced Bamba is a healthier Embiid.
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Contingent on the player the Celts want being there and the guy(s) we want not being there at 5. Brown, 27 and Sac pick would be awfully tempting. Or substitute Rozier for 27, though idk that Celtics would that probably not
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06-04-2018, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Underdog
Can't tell if serious... This "rumor" has been bullshit from the get-go -- the Mavs aren't in contact with Boston. And just because the Celtics are interested in Bamba doesn't mean the Mavs don't have better options than him at #5... What would be stupid is dealing with Danny Ainge again -- after the ink dries we'll probably find out that Brown is secretly dating a Kardashian or something.
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THANK YOU! This is a non f'in story that has somehow made it more than a fart's length
This is how BS rumors work. Dumb dumb write "story" from sauces...spreads through social media...media ask teams...teams say no.
The end.
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06-04-2018, 09:22 PM
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It most likely is a b.s.story but it’s also possible there is a grain of truth in there some where. Either way, it gives us something to talk about? Not much going on Mavs related right now
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06-04-2018, 09:34 PM
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It most likely is a b.s.story but it’s also possible there is a grain of truth in there some where. Either way, it gives us something to talk about? Not much going on Mavs related right now
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Right, but it's just fishing for clicks really since GMs talk to GMs on a daily basis. This thing never had legs of any kind.
I can somewhat see the value in showing that these picks are worth more than that package, but everyone should know how valuable these picks are by now. It's no secret.
It's not that we shouldn't talk about or post rumors, it's just that this thing won't go away when there is no smoke to be found.
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06-04-2018, 10:12 PM
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It most likely is a b.s.story but it’s also possible there is a grain of truth in there some where. Either way, it gives us something to talk about? Not much going on Mavs related right now
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But there never was a "rumor" in the first place -- just a report that Boston liked Bamba and a writer spitballing ideas to move up in the draft (which involved Dallas and Memphis)... It's really no different than if the Mavs said they liked Ayton, then you and I came up with trade scenarios to move up to #1.
Then along comes Mike "DUST Chip/Plan Powder" Fisher who puts out an article saying that "IF Boston mad an offer, then the Mavs should counter with Tatum" and this whole thing spiraled out of control, as if there was an actual conversation between Dallas and Boston (which there wasn't)... And now Tim Cato is reporting that people within the Mavs organization are saying they would have no interest in such a deal anyway, since they like the #3-8 prospects.
So no story, no rumor, just BS clickbait because assholes like Mike Fisher KNOW fans are desperate for something, anything..... but there's nothing.
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06-04-2018, 10:24 PM
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Still waiting on Noel to get those multiple offers of max contracts that Fish's "league source" said, and how 12-14m per year would have been financial suicide for Noel if that's all we were prepared to offer him.
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06-04-2018, 10:39 PM
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If Fish pulled this out of his ass, it's because the Mavs told him to drive up the value of the pick to explore trade offers, or they're trying to make sure Bamba gets taken ahead of them to free up one of Jackson, Doncic, and Bagley. OR I'm sleep deprived and bored and wishing badly for a 17-day coma.
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06-04-2018, 10:58 PM
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If Fish pulled this out of his ass, it's because the Mavs told him to drive up the value of the pick to explore trade offers, or they're trying to make sure Bamba gets taken ahead of them to free up one of Jackson, Doncic, and Bagley. OR I'm sleep deprived and bored and wishing badly for a 17-day coma.
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If there's an angle here, that's the one I'd bet on... The Ntilikina Effect.
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06-05-2018, 10:55 PM
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#ATLHawks GM Travis Schlenk said they could potentially move back in the #NBA Draft, out of that No. 3 spot:
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Thats interesting. Would love to know how their player ranking is. Rumors are they are really high on Bagley, so i guess they may trade 1-2 spots down if Ayton and Bagley are gone
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Trae Young said he’ll work out for just four teams - Knicks, Orlando, Atlanta, Chicago. Could add more but unlikely.
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Reaching for Trae would be even better
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06-05-2018, 10:58 PM
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Poker face.
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06-05-2018, 11:27 PM
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Reading on Hawks boards, a lot of ppl telling there that Trae would be the Schlenk pick (but maybe not from the scouting department)...
Right now the only thing im sure of is that Ayton, Doncic and Bagley are going before us. Doncic wont get past the Grizzlies and Marc is going to make sure that they dont pick Porter over Doncic. Bagley also wont slide past the Grizzlies if Doncic gets picked in the top 3
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06-06-2018, 11:00 AM
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Little over two weeks to go so I collected a list of all the mock drafts along with how accurate they've been in the past. Draftexpress was the most accurate, but they've obviously been folded into ESPN.
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06-06-2018, 11:09 AM
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Depending on who's available I wouldn't mind us picking Carter. I think he has the tools to succeed as modern center tbh
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06-06-2018, 11:18 AM
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Im now official on the Bamba train (assuming Ayton and Doncic are gone)
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06-06-2018, 11:39 AM
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06-06-2018, 12:43 PM
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Im now official on the Bamba train (assuming Ayton and Doncic are gone)
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Hold a spot for me. I'm feeling the same way
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06-06-2018, 03:33 PM
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Hold a spot for me. I'm feeling the same way
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We're all welcome on the Bamba train
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