GDT: game 28 - Mavs (18-9) at Sixers (20-9) 7:00 ESPN

[Underdog]

@townbrad: Best quote of the night comes from @jalenbrunson1 about the @dallasmavs’ culture:

“It’s a championship culture that was set way before us. We’re just doing our best to try to get it back. The pieces we have, the character that guys possess, we have a special group here.”

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by rimrocker

I do tend to lean that way but the way THJ is showcasing himself it makes you wonder if this is a golden opportunity to go after a legit 3rd option.

What if THJ, himself, is a legit 3rd option? The thing about having such a young team is that all of these guys can still be coached-up to their possible potential.

@coopmavs: Hardaway spoke afterward about how Carlisle worked with him individually on his shot to make some small correction that obviously worked. It's an incredible quality that RC has. Very few HCs spend that time leaving it to development coaches. He goes the extra mile.

[NeedlesKane]

I just watched the first quarter. OMG! 19 points from Tim Hardaway Jr. And that buzzer beater by... Broekhoff?! Damn... totally unexpected! He's a great shooter, but I am surprised that he got to play in the first quarter.

[SMC0007]

Originally Posted by Underdog

What if THJ, himself, is a legit 3rd option? The thing about having such a young team is that all of these guys can still be coached-up to their possible potential.

@coopmavs: Hardaway spoke afterward about how Carlisle worked with him individually on his shot to make some small correction that obviously worked. It's an incredible quality that RC has. Very few HCs spend that time leaving it to development coaches. He goes the extra mile.

I think there's too much concern over a "3rd star". If we can make an upgrade, awesome... preferably for Powell. Maxi is a capable center though.

I give more credit to Rick seeing something that could be adjusted in his shot, more than "props to a coach for...coaching". I dont think many coaches just choose not to get extra work in, but coaches who can see small details like that can make a huge difference.

[SMC0007]

Originally Posted by NeedlesKane

I just watched the first quarter. OMG! 19 points from Tim Hardaway Jr. And that buzzer beater by... Broekhoff?! Damn... totally unexpected! He's a great shooter, but I am surprised that he got to play in the first quarter.

I think Broek earned it with how he came in last game and hit clutch 3s after riding the pine more than any other contract player here. The guy can shoot in games and he has constantly proven that. Idk what goes on in practices that could keep him off the floor as much as he has but he typically answer the bell. He plays solid defense and rebounds well too.

[NeedlesKane]

That was a really fun game to watch! And I've stayed up far too late tonight. I just HAD to watch. I love watching these Mavs play!

[dirt_dobber]

Tim Hardaway Jr. is shooting a career-high 37.5% from deep this season through 28 games. Best 3P% since he shot 36.3% his rookie year.
Tim Hardaway Jr. continued his resurgent season, scoring a game-high 27 points, while hitting 10-of-21 from the floor and an astonishing 7-of-11 from beyond the arc.
@coopmavs - Hardaway spoke afterward about how Carlisle worked with him individually on his shot to make some small correction that obviously worked. It's an incredible quality that RC has. Very few HCs spend that time leaving it to development coaches. He goes the extra mile.

Through 28 games, the Mavs have road wins over the Nuggets, Rockets, Lakers, Bucks and now 76ers.

So far this season 13 teams have played zone on at least 50 possessions. Dallas ranks second among them in points per possession allowed at 0.810 behind only the Clippers (0.724 - wow).

Porzingas - 22 points to go along with a career-high 18 rebounds in 37 minutes of action, while hitting 10-of-19 from the field and blocking three shots.

Dallas also had four other players in double figures, including 10 from Maxi Kleber, and 11 points each from Dorian Finney-Smith, Seth Curry, and Jalen Brunson. Brunson also had 11 assists on the evening.

[endtroducing MASKED]

The only way we’re trading THJ or Powell is taking bad salary back. No one is taking those contracts. We have to get what we are gonna get via Lee, the GS pick or the exception

[endtroducing MASKED]

Originally Posted by SMC0007

I think Broek earned it with how he came in last game and hit clutch 3s after riding the pine more than any other contract player here. The guy can shoot in games and he has constantly proven that. Idk what goes on in practices that could keep him off the floor as much as he has but he typically answer the bell. He plays solid defense and rebounds well too.

I think he has at least earned appearances in games if our shooters go cold

[AO41]

There are 2 ways of thinking now that the Mavs are good.

1. We need to make a trade for a 3rd guy
2. The team is playing so well without a solid 3rd guy that we shouldn’t mess with the chemistry.

I think both are fair argument and I lean towards not disrupting the chemistry but I also know that the playoffs will get hrs without having a consistent 3rd guy.

I know some want to wait for 2021 and Giannis but we all know that’s not going to happen. I was thinking last night about Minnesota’s situation as they fall out of e playoffs and are bad again.

A lot of us want Covington on this team but what would it take
to get him ? He is a great upgrade but not a 3rd piece.

Would we even consider taking the Wiggins away from Minny because nobody else will and they clearly need to start over and let some of their young’s develop with KAT.

Wiggins has been doing some play making those year and done good. Could he be the 3rd piece or is he too inconsistent like Hardaway ?

Luka
Wiggins
DFS
Covington
KP

Would be a very interesting lineup. We could always bring DFS off the bench if we wanted more shooting in the starting lineup and start Curry instead.

Wiggins could run the offense when Luka is out and provide us with a very dynamic scorer and 3rd option.

[Budapest Maverick]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

It's a two superstar league though, so I'm not sure that really matters as much anymore until someone gets three of them. I mean, it would be great if we did, but I'm not going to lose sleep over it.

Sure thing, but you still try. Imagine that Euro trio, it would be legendary.

[Budapest Maverick]

Originally Posted by SMC0007

Luka is not going anywhere. Gianna or not

Agree, I just meant we could have the max cap space for the last time for a long time while still having all these excellent role players.

[turin]

I still think we need to make a move or two before playoff time. While I understand the concern regarding disrupting chemistry, I think that once things get whittled down to the top 4 in the west come playoff time, if the Mavs are still alive, people are then going to really notice how deficient Powell is. Yes, we can live with him starting during the regular season, and we can win with him, but when we get down to the best teams, he's just not going to be able to cut it. The Lakers, Clippers, and Denver are going to eat him alive. I'd rather be proactive now, so we have the best opportunity to take advantage of a playoff opportunity. Just because nobody expected us to be this good this soon doesn't mean we shouldn't do what we can to maximize our chances. Trying to "win now" doesn't mean we have to sacrifice any of the future. We can do both - try and win now while also building for our future. I don't want to look back after this season and wish we had done something to address our most obvious, in my mind, deficiency, only to say, "oh well, maybe next year." You have to take advantage of your opportunities - all of them.

[Melonhead]

Originally Posted by NeedlesKane

I just watched the first quarter. OMG! 19 points from Tim Hardaway Jr. And that buzzer beater by... Broekhoff?! Damn... totally unexpected! He's a great shooter, but I am surprised that he got to play in the first quarter.

Where did you find a replay?

[SMC0007]

Originally Posted by AO41

There are 2 ways of thinking now that the Mavs are good.

1. We need to make a trade for a 3rd guy
2. The team is playing so well without a solid 3rd guy that we shouldn’t mess with the chemistry.

I think both are fair argument and I lean towards not disrupting the chemistry but I also know that the playoffs will get hrs without having a consistent 3rd guy.

I know some want to wait for 2021 and Giannis but we all know that’s not going to happen. I was thinking last night about Minnesota’s situation as they fall out of e playoffs and are bad again.

A lot of us want Covington on this team but what would it take
to get him ? He is a great upgrade but not a 3rd piece.

Would we even consider taking the Wiggins away from Minny because nobody else will and they clearly need to start over and let some of their young’s develop with KAT.

Wiggins has been doing some play making those year and done good. Could he be the 3rd piece or is he too inconsistent like Hardaway ?

Luka
Wiggins
DFS
Covington
KP

Would be a very interesting lineup. We could always bring DFS off the bench if we wanted more shooting in the starting lineup and start Curry instead.

Wiggins could run the offense when Luka is out and provide us with a very dynamic scorer and 3rd option.

Even if I did like this lineup, which I don't, Minny isn't going to hand over their 2nd best asset. That lineup looks straight out of NBA2k and might look ok on paper offensively but it would get throttled defensively and on the boards in reality.

[SMC0007]

Originally Posted by turin

I still think we need to make a move or two before playoff time. While I understand the concern regarding disrupting chemistry, I think that once things get whittled down to the top 4 in the west come playoff time, if the Mavs are still alive, people are then going to really notice how deficient Powell is. Yes, we can live with him starting during the regular season, and we can win with him, but when we get down to the best teams, he's just not going to be able to cut it. The Lakers, Clippers, and Denver are going to eat him alive. I'd rather be proactive now, so we have the best opportunity to take advantage of a playoff opportunity. Just because nobody expected us to be this good this soon doesn't mean we shouldn't do what we can to maximize our chances. Trying to "win now" doesn't mean we have to sacrifice any of the future. We can do both - try and win now while also building for our future. I don't want to look back after this season and wish we had done something to address our most obvious, in my mind, deficiency, only to say, "oh well, maybe next year." You have to take advantage of your opportunities - all of them.

Basically agree. If we can upgrade DP in the slu without disrupting too much chemistry it would be great. I think that's the most room for improvement without losing the intangibles some of the guards and wings provide.

[tap2390]

We need to have faith and not mess up a good thing. We are deep, balanced, and versatile. There's no need to make a move unless it's Lee + a pick only.

If we make a larger midseason move now we're telling our guys that all that talk about continuity and chemistry in the offseason was all bullshit. Let them show us how far they can go this season, and if we dud in the playoffs then we can make a riskier move in the offseason.

[Bryan_Wilson]

Originally Posted by Melonhead

Where did you find a replay?

https://www.nbafullhd.com/dallas-mav...ays-full-game/

[FollowedKPtodallas]

Originally Posted by AO41

There are 2 ways of thinking now that the Mavs are good.

1. We need to make a trade for a 3rd guy
2. The team is playing so well without a solid 3rd guy that we shouldn’t mess with the chemistry.

I think both are fair argument and I lean towards not disrupting the chemistry but I also know that the playoffs will get hrs without having a consistent 3rd guy.

I know some want to wait for 2021 and Giannis but we all know that’s not going to happen. I was thinking last night about Minnesota’s situation as they fall out of e playoffs and are bad again.

A lot of us want Covington on this team but what would it take
to get him ? He is a great upgrade but not a 3rd piece.

Would we even consider taking the Wiggins away from Minny because nobody else will and they clearly need to start over and let some of their young’s develop with KAT.

Wiggins has been doing some play making those year and done good. Could he be the 3rd piece or is he too inconsistent like Hardaway ?

Luka
Wiggins
DFS
Covington
KP

Would be a very interesting lineup. We could always bring DFS off the bench if we wanted more shooting in the starting lineup and start Curry instead.

Wiggins could run the offense when Luka is out and provide us with a very dynamic scorer and 3rd option.

I want nothing to do with Wiggans. Imo Hes a great stats on bad team guy. 6'8" and that athletic how does he play so little defense ?

[Bryan_Wilson]

Mavs are playing surprisingly well without Luka. I really thought this team was a bottom 5 team without him based on some of their games. I will say though that I don't consider Philly an elite team. They basically are playing 3 centers at once in Embiid Al and Simmons. But playing Miami close and beating the Bucks and 6 point loss to Boston... I'm not really one for moral victories but they are playing a lot better than I thought they would after Luka went down. Even if IMO Philly is a miscast of a roster and the Bucks got caught overlooking us for the Lakers, we have played competitive ball and that's way more than I gave them credit for a while back.

[Scoobay]

Originally Posted by Bryan_Wilson

https://www.nbafullhd.com/dallas-mav...ays-full-game/

thanks this is awesome!

[rimrocker]

Originally Posted by turin

I still think we need to make a move or two before playoff time. While I understand the concern regarding disrupting chemistry, I think that once things get whittled down to the top 4 in the west come playoff time, if the Mavs are still alive, people are then going to really notice how deficient Powell is. Yes, we can live with him starting during the regular season, and we can win with him, but when we get down to the best teams, he's just not going to be able to cut it. The Lakers, Clippers, and Denver are going to eat him alive. I'd rather be proactive now, so we have the best opportunity to take advantage of a playoff opportunity. Just because nobody expected us to be this good this soon doesn't mean we shouldn't do what we can to maximize our chances. Trying to "win now" doesn't mean we have to sacrifice any of the future. We can do both - try and win now while also building for our future. I don't want to look back after this season and wish we had done something to address our most obvious, in my mind, deficiency, only to say, "oh well, maybe next year." You have to take advantage of your opportunities - all of them.

This makes a lot of sense.
We are good enough to start looking at the teams we'll need to get past to make it to the finals and make the necessary adjustments.

On the other hand, we are looking somewhat unique and quite possibly a team that the other top tier teams will need to adjust to.

I do agree upgrading the center position is something the FO should consider and I think we could actually do that without moving Powell. Using our TPE and trading Lee, Jackson and a pick could get us a couple of nice pieces to add to what we already have.

[mac222b]

Originally Posted by tap2390

We need to have faith and not mess up a good thing. We are deep, balanced, and versatile. There's no need to make a move unless it's Lee + a pick only.

If we make a larger midseason move now we're telling our guys that all that talk about continuity and chemistry in the offseason was all bullshit. Let them show us how far they can go this season, and if we dud in the playoffs then we can make a riskier move in the offseason.

This is pretty much where I’m at. If some combination of Lee, TE and maybe picks gets you Redick, Gallo, Covington, Marcus Morris, Bertans, T. Thompson or Favors you do it. But ideally keep the chemistry and save future assets for a bigger deal.

[rimrocker]

Originally Posted by FollowedKPtodallas

I want nothing to do with Wiggans. Imo Hes a great stats on bad team guy. 6'8" and that athletic how does he play so little defense ?

Yeah, I don't have a problem with Wiggins but I think Carlisle and the rest of the team would.

[rimrocker]

Personally I think if this team is still having the same success, or near the same success just before the TDL that it has had the first third of the season, these guys deserve to stay together to see this thing through.
Like some others have said, I don't mind trading someone like Lee (who hasn't contributed much on the court) with a draft pick and also our TPE because those types of moves shouldn't have much of an impact on our chemistry.

[OldWhiteGuy]

Per ESPN: The Mavs have outscored opponents by 7.4 points per 100 possessions when Doncic isn't on the court this season and 8.5 with Docic on the floor, The Mavericks are better defensively, allowing only 104.1 points per 100 possessions when Doncic is off the court compared to 108.9 when Doncic is on the court this season.

It's not all Luka. These guys are good.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by OldWhiteGuy

Per ESPN: The Mavs have outscored opponents by 7.4 points per 100 possessions when Doncic isn't on the court this season and 8.5 with Docic on the floor, The Mavericks are better defensively, allowing only 104.1 points per 100 possessions when Doncic is off the court compared to 108.9 when Doncic is on the court this season.

It's not all Luka. These guys are good.

#coaching

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by OldWhiteGuy

Per ESPN: The Mavs have outscored opponents by 7.4 points per 100 possessions when Doncic isn't on the court this season and 8.5 with Docic on the floor, The Mavericks are better defensively, allowing only 104.1 points per 100 possessions when Doncic is off the court compared to 108.9 when Doncic is on the court this season.

It's not all Luka. These guys are good.

That the Mavs are better defensively with Brunson, Curry, and THJ is nothing short of amazing. Coaching for true.

[endtroducing MASKED]

How about we beat Toronto on Sunday? How does that sound to the rest of you

[OldWhiteGuy]

Originally Posted by endtroducing MASKED

How about we beat Toronto on Sunday? How does that sound to the rest of you

I'm definitely for it. Hope it's not a trap game with three of their starters out.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by endtroducing MASKED

How about we beat Toronto on Sunday? How does that sound to the rest of you

Should we sit KP to make it fair? Maybe spot them 20 points so they don't get blown-out?

[endtroducing MASKED]

I think KP has to play just for us to be nice to Europe. This was supposed to be a showcase game with all those guys plus Luka and now half of them are out lol. That’s apparently why they scheduled it for 2:30

[turin]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

That the Mavs are better defensively with Brunson, Curry, and THJ is nothing short of amazing. Coaching for true.

Better to take advanced analytics with a grain of salt. Luka doesn't get much burn against opponents' bench players.

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[OldWhiteGuy]

Originally Posted by Underdog

Should we sit KP to make it fair? Maybe spot them 20 points so they don't get blown-out?

I'm OK with a blow-out. The 20 point spot we gave Miami didn't work out well and was tough on my nerves.