2021 Mavericks SUMMER LEAGUE - Page 2 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

saclare · 08-10-2021, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

On another note did anyone see Mitchell out of Sacramento? My goodness.....his defense...he looks like he already may be one of the best defenders in the league...sheesh.

Yep, big part of his game. His age was the only real knock when it came time for the draft. He's a Jrue Holiday starter kit with more offensive upside, IMO.

sig · 08-10-2021, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

I think I saw Bey on Chicago's summer squad, but I'm not positive.

Yeh. He has surfaced on the Bulls. I can quit stressing over him. At least the Mavs got Sterling Brown, Burke and kept WCS. Doh!

Zeus · 08-11-2021, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDog63

He bately played for Australia in the Olympics, too. Something up with him?

A better decathlete than basketball player? Perhaps that is the reason.

mac222b · 08-12-2021, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

On another note did anyone see Mitchell out of Sacramento? My goodness.....his defense...he looks like he already may be one of the best defenders in the league...sheesh.

He looks great on defense. Should be good offensively too. He and Halliburton will make for an incredible backcourt. They should trade Fox.

SMC0007 · 08-12-2021, 08:55 AM

Man. It sucks that Nate Hinton has one of those 2 way spots. He is playing like shit and doesn't look as NBA ready as I thought. Last year he looked decent in his minutes on the team. Last night he had 5 shots blocked. 3 of them were on open 3s, and 2 I'll advised layup attempts.

Omoruyi looks like a useful player as does Robert Franks. Those are the 2 best looking Mavs on the SL so far.

tap2390 · 08-12-2021, 10:06 AM

Hinton is a great chemistry guy, but is absolutely a waste of a roster spot otherwise.

SMC0007 · 08-12-2021, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by tap2390

Hinton is a great chemistry guy, but is absolutely a waste of a roster spot otherwise.

That's what I see. You can't be getting blocked 5 times in a game and 3 of them on 3ptrs where he was relatively open. Super slow release allowed defenders to make up ground. The 2 lay up attempts that were blocked never even remotely had a chance. You could see it happening right when he floored the ball too.

I don't see him getting any minutes on the big boy team. He looks like a player that will get stuck on G league team. Sucks because last year he looked like the best player of the rookies we had.

mac222b · 08-12-2021, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

That's what I see. You can't be getting blocked 5 times in a game and 3 of them on 3ptrs where he was relatively open. Super slow release allowed defenders to make up ground. The 2 lay up attempts that were blocked never even remotely had a chance. You could see it happening right when he floored the ball too.

I don't see him getting any minutes on the big boy team. He looks like a player that will get stuck on G league team. Sucks because last year he looked like the best player of the rookies we had.

Green looked the best, warts and all. He actually contributed in non-garbage time in minutes that mattered a few times.

Zeus · 08-13-2021, 07:37 AM

Just read a note from Detroit press that our would-be draft choice Saddiq Bey was so overwhelmingly good in the Summer league debut that he has no business being there. Just sayin for the 1000x10**5 time that we goofed up. Ok kick my ass now board for bringing this obvious point up again.

Bryan_Wilson · 08-13-2021, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeus

Just read a note from Detroit press that our would-be draft choice Saddiq Bey was so overwhelmingly good in the Summer league debut that he has no business being there. Just sayin for the 1000x10**5 time that we goofed up. Ok kick my ass now board for bringing this obvious point up again.

Well he's 2yrs older than Green so we just have to hope I guess. But he was good in the regular season he hasn't been great in summer league so Idk why they would mention he's so good he doesn't belong there when the guy is averaging 13pts a game and 30% from 3 in SL. Maybe one game he was great and the other he sucked? His regular season was where he did good. If Josh Green averaged 13 a game on 30% from 3 we would be talking about how he sucks compared to Bey. Shows again how SL is for the most part meaningless. It's especially bad for teams without a playmaker to help create offense for others.

BigDog63 · 08-15-2021, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

Yeah but the thing about the Cowboys is we are raving about a lot of young guys from that game. Parsons, Wright, Cox, Joseph......you can at least see the potential....I don't know where that same feeling is coming from with this unit.

Good point....

EricaLubarsky · 08-15-2021, 03:58 PM

There is no reason for the Mavs to even have a summer league.

Sure we got a couple of two-way guys, but no first-rounders (Green not playing and no FRP last draft) and no second-rounders (Terry not playing, no SRP this last draft)

No wonder we're on our way to 0-4

DevinHarriswillstart · 08-15-2021, 04:17 PM

Well why the hell isn't Green playing? What a waste of a pick that was.

Zeus · 08-16-2021, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Well why the hell isn't Green playing? What a waste of a pick that was.

You think? From NBA.com

Bey scored a season-high 30 points, hitting 7 of 7 3-point shots, on a night that would prove to be Blake Griffin’s final game in a Pistons uniform. Bey moved into the starting lineup full-time after that and went on to a historic rookie season. He led all rookies in 3-pointers with 175, four more than No. 1 overall pick Anthony Edwards despite 60 fewer attempts. Bey made five or more 3-pointers in a game a record 13 times for a rookie, breaking the record of 10 shared by a couple of guys named Allen Iverson and Steph Curry. If it had been a typical 82-game season, Bey was on course to break Donovan Mitchell’s NBA rookie record of 187 triples made.

sefant77 · 08-16-2021, 07:04 AM

Still waiting for the one time you compare 20y Bey with 20y old Green, crybaby...

tap2390 · 08-16-2021, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeus

Just read a note from Detroit press that our would-be draft choice Saddiq Bey was so overwhelmingly good in the Summer league debut that he has no business being there. Just sayin for the 1000x10**5 time that we goofed up. Ok kick my ass now board for bringing this obvious point up again.

I'm not going to lie, while I think Green deserves time and comes with obvious physical gifts that Bey doesn't, it really hurts to see guys like Maxey, Quickley, Bey, and Bane contribute right off the bat.

Maxey might be the one that hurts the most. The kid is exactly what we said we needed, a secondary ball handler/ scorer with good size and skills and ZERO fear. He's going to be a problem.

tap2390 · 08-16-2021, 08:56 AM

Just put this on repeat and pray to the basketball gods.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvPe8LxXnDY

Dallas41 · 08-16-2021, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Bryan_Wilson

Well he's 2yrs older than Green so we just have to hope I guess. But he was good in the regular season he hasn't been great in summer league so Idk why they would mention he's so good he doesn't belong there when the guy is averaging 13pts a game and 30% from 3 in SL. Maybe one game he was great and the other he sucked? His regular season was where he did good. If Josh Green averaged 13 a game on 30% from 3 we would be talking about how he sucks compared to Bey. Shows again how SL is for the most part meaningless. It's especially bad for teams without a playmaker to help create offense for others.

This sort of contradicts what some mavs fans said last season about our rookies

Your saying SL is meaningless

Yet some fans said not having SL last season hurt our rookies and didn't allow them the time to grow which is why they couldn't get minutes

And btw are we really making a big deal of a guy being 22 vs a guy 20?

I'm guessing 5 years from now the comparison will be 27 year old Bey vs 25 year old Green lol

DevinHarriswillstart · 08-16-2021, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeus

You think? From NBA.com

Bey scored a season-high 30 points, hitting 7 of 7 3-point shots, on a night that would prove to be Blake Griffin’s final game in a Pistons uniform. Bey moved into the starting lineup full-time after that and went on to a historic rookie season. He led all rookies in 3-pointers with 175, four more than No. 1 overall pick Anthony Edwards despite 60 fewer attempts. Bey made five or more 3-pointers in a game a record 13 times for a rookie, breaking the record of 10 shared by a couple of guys named Allen Iverson and Steph Curry. If it had been a typical 82-game season, Bey was on course to break Donovan Mitchell’s NBA rookie record of 187 triples made.

Not a single person on here beat the Bey drum more than me. That will go down as one of the worst misses in Mavs draft history.

DevinHarriswillstart · 08-16-2021, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by tap2390

Just put this on repeat and pray to the basketball gods.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvPe8LxXnDY

OK but why no summer league? It's a huge miss for someone who still likely won't get many minutes this season with the additions of Brown and Bullock.

saclare · 08-16-2021, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by tap2390

Just put this on repeat and pray to the basketball gods.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvPe8LxXnDY

I know it's a highlight reel, but the fact Carlisle couldn't find more minutes for this kid is beyond me.

Zeus · 08-16-2021, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sefant77

Still waiting for the one time you compare 20y Bey with 20y old Green, crybaby...

Red Herring

Zeus · 08-16-2021, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by saclare

I know it's a highlight reel, but the fact Carlisle couldn't find more minutes for this kid is beyond me.

Saddiq's highlight reel is better and longer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud7QTcAwtsE

No need to put on repeat.

Some Guy · 08-16-2021, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeus

Saddiq's highlight reel is better and longer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud7QTcAwtsE

No need to put on repeat.

Really?

sefant77 · 08-16-2021, 09:51 PM

Zeus highlight reel:

MFFL · 08-16-2021, 10:24 PM

The Athletic article about the best players of summer league was tough to read. We could have had at least one or maybe two of those players

Zeus · 08-17-2021, 06:14 AM

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Zeus highlight reel:

Zeus · 08-17-2021, 06:15 AM

Any thoughts who makes the regular season roster from this summer league debacle?

Bryan_Wilson · 08-17-2021, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Dallas41

This sort of contradicts what some mavs fans said last season about our rookies

Your saying SL is meaningless

Yet some fans said not having SL last season hurt our rookies and didn't allow them the time to grow which is why they couldn't get minutes

And btw are we really making a big deal of a guy being 22 vs a guy 20?

I'm guessing 5 years from now the comparison will be 27 year old Bey vs 25 year old Green lol

All I said is we have to hope he develops. He is only 20, so there is reason for hope that he can develop his offensive game. What else is there to do? I guess people can keep posting about how it was a failed pick and we should have taken Bey, because that sure is fun and wasn't done in over 40 GDT's last year. The bottom line is Green is 20, he's not a finished product, either hope he gets better or move on.

DevinHarriswillstart · 08-17-2021, 09:20 AM

So glad we kept Hinton over Bey..........ugh.

https://twitter.com/chicagobulls/sta...65650771881985

tap2390 · 08-17-2021, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

So glad we kept Hinton over Bey..........ugh.

https://twitter.com/chicagobulls/sta...65650771881985

Don't think Bey finds a spot in the league as an undersized 4, but we could've (should've) taken Paul Reed at that spot.

Zeus · 08-17-2021, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sefant77

Still waiting for the one time you compare 20y Bey with 20y old Green, crybaby...

They are 18 months apart. We act like Josh is 16 year old Luka in the Spanish league or something.

rimrocker · 08-17-2021, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by tap2390

Don't think Bey finds a spot in the league as an undersized 4, but we could've (should've) taken Paul Reed at that spot.

I thought they should’ve taken Paul Reed as well but must admit I haven’t heard his name since the draft last season until now.

No idea what he is doing now.

Dallas41 · 08-18-2021, 06:58 PM

Got a chance to watch a game in Vegas and must say Mavs didn't have much talent on that roster (SL)

But it's always good to drive up from Phoenix to check out their SL team

mac222b · 08-18-2021, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dallas41

Got a chance to watch a game in Vegas and must say Mavs didn't have much talent on that roster (SL)

But it's always good to drive up from Phoenix to check out their SL team

Hah! Yes they have approximately zero talent on the summer league roster.

Zeus · 08-20-2021, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dallas41

Got a chance to watch a game in Vegas and must say Mavs didn't have much talent on that roster (SL)

But it's always good to drive up from Phoenix to check out their SL team

You live in Phoenix? Is that summer heat not a beat down?