Official trade watch 2020-2021 - Page 16 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

EricaLubarsky · 02-10-2022, 03:08 PM

Jessie
@lessiejarson
· 13m
Replying to @townbrad
You finally won't have to answer "Is KP playing tonight?"

Mavs have been asking that question a lot. At least we don't have to keep asking

GermanStandard · 02-10-2022, 03:08 PM

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GermanStandard · 02-10-2022, 03:09 PM

BPo001 · 02-10-2022, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dallas41

So they are waisted that TE

Didn't bother to go after Theis or Holmes

Unbelievable

They better start giving Chriss more minutes with Luka

Sucks they didn’t use it, but I imagine they made calls to try and use it. Seems like the Kings are going all in trying to make the playoffs, and trading Holmes for air doesn’t help that goal.

EricaLubarsky · 02-10-2022, 03:11 PM

Who we cutting?

We traded 1-for-2 when we had a full roster so we gotta cut one
If we want to pick up Dragic, we will need to cut two players.

BPo001 · 02-10-2022, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Who we cutting?

We traded 1-for-2 when we had a full roster so we gotta cut one
If we want to pick up Dragic, we will need to cut two players.

Well they recalled Moses earlier today, so I’d imagine he’s one of them.

twistaeffect2004 · 02-10-2022, 03:12 PM

This trade is being lambasted by everyone lmao who would of thunk the mavs were gonna steal the headlines for all the wrong reasons at the deadline.

Murphy3 · 02-10-2022, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Who we cutting?

We traded 1-for-2 when we had a full roster so we gotta cut one
If we want to pick up Dragic, we will need to cut two players.

The list of cuttable players isn’t that short.

twistaeffect2004 · 02-10-2022, 03:13 PM

Rockets are waiving Enes Freedom.

DevinHarriswillstart · 02-10-2022, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by twistaeffect2004

This trade is being lambasted by everyone lmao who would of thunk the mavs were gonna steal the headlines for all the wrong reasons at the deadline.

Everyone screamed and cried over the Seth Curry trade for years. Love to see this one play out...

mac222b · 02-10-2022, 03:14 PM

Sad sad trade. Bertans and Dinwiddie are garbage adjacent. At least KP is a rim protector.

saclare · 02-10-2022, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

LMAO, Jake Fischer doesn't look so stupid now does he?

I can't believe KP only gets you fucking Dinwiddie and Bertans. Tell me that's not true.

Yes, he still does for reporting one of the smaller rumors I've seen.

Melonhead · 02-10-2022, 03:16 PM

Now we get to hear: you wanted the mavs to make a move, now dont complain on who they got.

EricaLubarsky · 02-10-2022, 03:17 PM

StatMuse
@statmuse
· 32m
Mavs record since 2019-20, including playoffs:

.592 with Luka and Porzingis
.600 with just Luka

purplefrog · 02-10-2022, 03:17 PM

I am guessing the Mavs felt the need to move KP if at all possible given his health concerns. A $30M+/yr player who doesn't play much is untenable if you are trying to make a playoff run. Bertrans and Dinwiddie are smaller contracts that might be easier to move later on. I'm not a fan of either player but the opportunity presented itself and I think you have to go for it. But it is unfortunate that KP's value was so low.

Theoretically, the Mavs have added a stretch 4 and another ball handler. Theoretically..........

Dolencd · 02-10-2022, 03:20 PM

I think the real story goes like this. KP wanted out of Dallas since second half of the season. Obviously Dallas would get 2 hot dogs with mustard for him last off season. That's why they probably made a deal with him to trade him in the winter deadline. This makes sense for Porzingis missing like 3 weeks just for back or knee soreness. I think they wanted to trade KP all along. And KP wished the same.
I like this trade. Why? For what they Mavs got? No! Because they got rid of Porzingis and his contract. It's much easier to trade 2 15 mill contracts in the summer than one 35 mill one that is very liable.
And let's be honest! What would a success for Dallas be in this years PO? At least 2 PO series. And how can Dallas pull that off? They are good enough to do it only if they play really, really hard? And with KP you can't even expect him to play 1 PO series with 7 games on full throttle, let alone 2 PO series. And if he gets injured again it's again half a year gone.

So all and all I think Dallas made a good move. Definitely not a great one, but a good one non the less.

Dolencd · 02-10-2022, 03:23 PM

All and all if Dallas keeps Brunson in the summer that's a win. Much better of with Brunson than Porzingis. Believe you me.

SMC0007 · 02-10-2022, 03:23 PM

I'm gonna wait before I get on board with complaining about this one. Subject to change if we start sucking. KP has done fvck all when it matters most and if by some miracle hes actually available he's not near living up to his contract.

We have been winning without him so let's see what hapns

BPo001 · 02-10-2022, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by purplefrog

I am guessing the Mavs felt the need to move KP if at all possible given his health concerns. A $30M+/yr player who doesn't play much is untenable if you are trying to make a playoff run. Bertrans and Dinwiddie are smaller contracts that might be easier to move later on. I'm not a fan of either player but the opportunity presented itself and I think you have to go for it. But it is unfortunate that KP's value was so low.

Theoretically, the Mavs have added a stretch 4 and another ball handler. Theoretically..........

This is the only positive thing I see from the deal. Sucks that KP’s value was so low, but having 2 mid contracts will be easier to move than 1 monster contract. Too bad they couldn’t get rid of THJ.

DevinHarriswillstart · 02-10-2022, 03:25 PM

NFT pals. Wow.

https://twitter.com/BiasedSlightly/s...69963549536256

BPo001 · 02-10-2022, 03:25 PM

Tim Cato: cuban’s been interested in bringing dinwiddie to the mavericks since last summer. that said, it was only very recently i got a sense kristaps might actually be available. this sure as hell is a significant shakeup to the team’s roster. – via Twitter tim_cato

BPo001 · 02-10-2022, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

NFT pals. Wow.

https://twitter.com/BiasedSlightly/s...69963549536256

Mavs are like number 8 on Cubans give a shit list these days. He’s more interest in NFT’s and shark tank.

DevinHarriswillstart · 02-10-2022, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BPo001

This is the only positive thing I see from the deal. Sucks that KP’s value was so low, but having 2 mid contracts will be easier to move than 1 monster contract. Too bad they couldn’t get rid of THJ.

But that's sort of the crux. Now we have three bad contracts to move. Spencer, Bertans, THJ. Yuck.

At least the Mavs are admitting they aren't contenders. Finally coming to grips with that.

twistaeffect2004 · 02-10-2022, 03:34 PM

How could the Mavs not get one of Harrell, Bryant or Gafford out of this? Still just dumbfounded .

SMC0007 · 02-10-2022, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

But that's sort of the crux. Now we have three bad contracts to move. Spencer, Bertans, THJ. Yuck.

At least the Mavs are admitting they aren't contenders. Finally coming to grips with that.

Dinwiddie contract is bad?

Per @spotrac Dinwiddie is guaranteed 10M of his 18M+ in 24. So right now his deal is 2/28

mac222b · 02-10-2022, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BPo001

Mavs are like number 8 on Cubans give a shit list these days. He’s more interest in NFT’s and shark tank.

Well Cuban gets his crypto buddy in Dinwiddie. They can swap NFT stories or whatever the fuck. Yay.

purplefrog · 02-10-2022, 03:41 PM

Looks like Celts send Enes Freedom and Schroeder to Rockets for Theis. Rockets plan to waive Freedom....sounds like a zen moment.

BPo001 · 02-10-2022, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by twistaeffect2004

How could the Mavs not get one of Harrell, Bryant or Gafford out of this? Still just dumbfounded .

I think they could have gotten Harrell by including someone like Sterling Brown and KP. The Harrell trade was announced before the KP deal though.

saclare · 02-10-2022, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by twistaeffect2004

How could the Mavs not get one of Harrell, Bryant or Gafford out of this? Still just dumbfounded .

This is one of my critiques of this trade. Surely you could have gotten Gafford who is a younger, better Powell if given the same minutes, etc. especially given that we gave up the only pick in the deal.

purplefrog · 02-10-2022, 03:53 PM

Mavs need to clear a couple of roster spots if they plan to go after Dragic. Or does Dinwiddie make Dragic a nonissue?

EricaLubarsky · 02-10-2022, 03:54 PM

Moses waived

EricaLubarsky · 02-10-2022, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by purplefrog

Looks like Celts send Enes Freedom and Schroeder to Rockets for Theis. Rockets plan to waive Freedom....sounds like a zen moment.

Houston hates its Freedom

Dallas41 · 02-10-2022, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

StatMuse
@statmuse
· 32m
Mavs record since 2019-20, including playoffs:

.592 with Luka and Porzingis
.600 with just Luka

Lol

So they are just 1 game better with just Luka

Not too much of a difference imo

I'm cool with Dinwiddie felt like they should have went after him doing FA last year.

But the head scratcher is Bertans. That has the makings of being another move similar to Melli from last year.

I would have preferred one of those centers on Washington roster coming back with Dinwiddie as opposed to Bertans.

EricaLubarsky · 02-10-2022, 04:00 PM

@All_Things_Mavs
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11m
Spencer Dinwiddie’s best games this season:

34 PTS • 9 AST • 6 REB
27 PTS • 9 AST • 5 REB
27 PTS • 7 AST
24 PTS • 11 AST • 7 REB
24 PTS • 6 AST • 11 REB
22 PTS • 3 AST • 3 REB
22 PTS • 10 AST • 3 REB
21 PTS • 12 AST • 7 REB

I could see him shining here

Male30Dan · 02-10-2022, 04:03 PM

We are fans of such a poorly run organization. Seriously, it's just awful really, from treatment of others to leadership to free agency to trades to everything in between.
Outside of drafting a couple of amazing European beasts over 2 decades, I just don't know how anyone could ever have confidence in this dumpster fire of a front office.

Thank the Lord for Dirk is all I'll say. Maybe Luka proves to be as patient, but sheesh, I have no idea why.

Dallas41 · 02-10-2022, 04:04 PM

I wonder if Tristian Thompson or Al Horford are buyout candidates

Melonhead · 02-10-2022, 04:05 PM

Bertans is a black hole. I hope after this season he is moved.

BPo001 · 02-10-2022, 04:14 PM

105.3 saying they spoke with someone with the Wiz. Apparently Dinwiddie hasn’t been moving well lately, and looks like he’s shooting off 1 leg. Trade one injured guy for another?

Melonhead · 02-10-2022, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

@All_Things_Mavs
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11m
Spencer Dinwiddie’s best games this season:

34 PTS • 9 AST • 6 REB
27 PTS • 9 AST • 5 REB
27 PTS • 7 AST
24 PTS • 11 AST • 7 REB
24 PTS • 6 AST • 11 REB
22 PTS • 3 AST • 3 REB
22 PTS • 10 AST • 3 REB
21 PTS • 12 AST • 7 REB

I could see him shining here

So where does this put Jalen in the starting lineup?

Robillion · 02-10-2022, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

So where does this put Jalen in the starting lineup?

This is my concern. If this sends JB back to the bench, increases chances he is gone. So, hopefully starting lineups remains the same (as the past few games) and SD becomes our 6th man leading the bench.