12-10-2022, 10:51 AM
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Mavs at Bulls
Mavs shoot 28% from FT outside of SD and Green. Worse than Shaqs worst season and lose by one.
Mavs had to fly out immediately following the game and arrived in their Chicago hotel at 3:45am to play today
Good job, NBA schedulers
Last edited by EricaLubarsky; 12-10-2022 at 11:01 AM.
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12-10-2022, 01:38 PM
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Luka and Kleber out.
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12-10-2022, 01:43 PM
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Holy shit, Luka is out tonight and Hardy recalled. Can it be? Finally?
Although Hardy did play last night so he also might be tired, but if he gets big minutes, then I'll take it!!
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12-10-2022, 01:49 PM
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Just for anyone who doesn't get the Hardy hype, here are the stats...
https://twitter.com/dalton_trigg/sta...41678410240000
49% from three on 9.2 attempts. Doesn't matter the competition. That's insane.
Oh and 87% fts, something, ya know, we might need.
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12-10-2022, 01:56 PM
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Honestly it?s Probably good Luka is taking the night off after that. Dude was infuriated
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12-10-2022, 02:06 PM
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Green out, also. They will have to play Hardy.
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12-10-2022, 02:26 PM
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Green, Kleber, Luka out
Hardy recalled
Kemba upgraded to questionable
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12-10-2022, 02:30 PM
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Maybe the Mavs can sneak Vucevic and DeRozen on their plane before they leave Chicago....
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12-10-2022, 04:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by purplefrog
Maybe the Mavs can sneak Vucevic and DeRozen on their plane before they leave Chicago....
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And accidentally leave Powell.
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12-10-2022, 07:31 PM
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Hardy and Christian Wood starting. SHOCKED.
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12-10-2022, 07:34 PM
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Wow so they just took Hardy out of the starting lineup for Hardaway.....ahh well.
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12-10-2022, 07:42 PM
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Kidd knows how to piss us off huh?
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12-10-2022, 07:43 PM
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Coop says stat monitors in building say Hardy is starting. Wtf.
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12-10-2022, 07:46 PM
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Is something wrong with Hardy? Did they actually make a last minute change or did someone make a mistake, initially?
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12-10-2022, 08:00 PM
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I honestly think this is a game to raise value with Luka Kleber and Green out. I think they are saying everyone else is tradeable. Sadly maybe even Hardy for the right piece. We can make trades December 15th right? I think this is going to give the league a view of our assets. Why would you bring in Hardy to start from the G league? When those minutes all season have heavily gone to THJ, Bullock, Green?
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12-10-2022, 08:14 PM
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Why do we continue to play Powell? Can anyone legitimately name a worse starting center in the league?
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12-10-2022, 08:47 PM
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Surely we have the most scrub group of mediocre role players in the league
THJ
Dfs
Bull
Powell
Mcgee
Kemba
Ntlikina
Maxi
Bertans
Would anyone blink an eye if any of these people were gone?
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12-10-2022, 08:50 PM
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Thank God we signed McGee instead of Drummond LMAO
We are a pitiful, pitiful organization
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12-10-2022, 08:56 PM
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Thank God we signed Kemba Walker instead of Dragic
We are a pitiful, pitiful organization
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12-10-2022, 09:01 PM
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This is why THJ should be traded when his stock is up
Dude will vanish for 3-4 games right after you think he's turned a corner. Been like that his entire career
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12-10-2022, 09:07 PM
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And we begged for Wood to start despite his weak ass defense and camping out at the 3-point line
I'd trade him and THJ if that get us a legit 2nd option for Luka
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12-10-2022, 09:07 PM
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Fuck this squad, fuck Kidd, but most of all, fuckkkkk Cuban. I?m out, I?ll catch y?all in the off-season or if we do anything at all to address our issues.
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12-10-2022, 09:09 PM
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OH, btw the Bulls are doing what teams are supposed to vs teams that sit their star players
Too bad the Mavs don't win those types of games either.
I hope this game is a game where they are show casing at least 3-4 guys for trade bait and Luka + Green are the foundation guys
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12-10-2022, 09:22 PM
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This is still 100% on Kidd who wouldn't know player or game management if it shot him in the head.
Yeah, starting Wood and bringing up Hardy when both of them played the night before isn't setting them up for failure or anything.
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12-10-2022, 09:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
This is still 100% on Kidd who wouldn't know player or game management if it shot him in the head.
Yeah, starting Wood and bringing up Hardy when both of them played the night before isn't setting them up for failure or anything.
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lol
wood is relatively young why would a b2b bother him especially since he didn't play heavy minutes?
The dude simply isn't that much of a difference maker IMO because anything he gives you offensively gets washed by his poor defense.
Honestly it wouldn't shock me if Wood is the center piece player of any big deal that the Mavs make.
I'd package him, THJ and Bullock if that can net us a true 2nd option for Luka
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12-10-2022, 09:26 PM
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This was a designed loss. Would have been an L no matter what with the 3:45am arrival
Makes last night sting more though
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12-10-2022, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
This was a designed loss. Would have been an L no matter what with the 3:45am arrival
Makes last night sting more though
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It's also a terrible schedule. 4 days off then a back to back on a weekend? It was destined for failure.
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12-10-2022, 09:30 PM
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This thread is hilarious.
People screaming that players are bad
How would you do at your job if you didn?t get to bed until 5am?
Plus this is a team about Luka for better or worse and we?re down a star.
Tired legs, tired minds, down major talent. I wouldn?t want my value judged based on that
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12-10-2022, 09:38 PM
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Think about the FT issue when you consider who to blame. Real simple.
When one player can't make Fts, that is on them.
When an entire team can't make them...THAT IS ON THE COACHING STAFF.
I don't think we have a championship roster, but there is no way anyone can with a straight face defend Kidd this year. You just aren't watching the games. Period.
And Wood is still our second best scorer this game. And best rebounder. So "some" shit talk him to death, and he still produces more than everyone else minus Spencer.
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12-10-2022, 09:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
This thread is hilarious.
People screaming that players are bad
How would you do at your job if you didn?t get to bed until 5am?
Plus this is a team about Luka for better or worse and we?re down a star.
Tired legs, tired minds, down major talent. I wouldn?t want my value judged based on that
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Clown take. Mavs have been inconsistent, have shot free throws poorly, have been poorly coached, and make misstep after misstep in roster construction but it?s the fans who are unreasonably asking for too much on a B2B? Sure if this was one off game, but the whole season is off.
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12-10-2022, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
This thread is hilarious.
People screaming that players are bad
How would you do at your job if you didn?t get to bed until 5am?
Plus this is a team about Luka for better or worse and we?re down a star.
Tired legs, tired minds, down major talent. I wouldn?t want my value judged based on that
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Well we had Luka last night, Giannis fouled out with 3 minutes left and we found a way to blow that one too. We're just not that great.
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12-10-2022, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Dallas41
lol
wood is relatively young why would a b2b bother him especially since he didn't play heavy minutes?
The dude simply isn't that much of a difference maker IMO because anything he gives you offensively gets washed by his poor defense.
Honestly it wouldn't shock me if Wood is the center piece player of any big deal that the Mavs make.
I'd package him, THJ and Bullock if that can net us a true 2nd option for Luka
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This is a joke right? None of these players were set up to be successful tonight. Your hate for Wood is really sad at this point.
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12-10-2022, 09:55 PM
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Hardy coming on a bit. Again, he'll disappear or score a million straight.
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12-10-2022, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by JustJay
Well we had Luka last night, Giannis fouled out with 3 minutes left and we found a way to blow that one too. We're just not that great.
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Yeah it's obvious this team isn't good
The b2b is just an excuse because they lose games to teams that sit out starters
B2b has nothing to do with this pathetic performance because defensively they've been this way all year regardless if they get 1 day rest or 3 days of rest
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12-10-2022, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Dallas41
Yeah it's obvious this team isn't good
The b2b is just an excuse because they lose games to teams that sit out starters
B2b has nothing to do with this pathetic performance because defensively they've been this way all year regardless if they get 1 day rest or 3 days of rest
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Then why did we start winning games when THJ was put into the starting lineup? We don't win any of the recent wins without his three point shooting. You can just as easily point to the inconsistent offense.
This is an offensive league. If you aren't making shots, then it doesn't matter a single bit how good your defense is.
But I will say that our two supposed best defenders in DFS and Bullock haven't stepped up to the plate and McGee hasn't provided anything on that end either.
So you trashing Wood makes 0 sense when he wasn't brought here for defense. It's our defensive guys that aren't pulling their weight.
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12-10-2022, 10:40 PM
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OH, btw the Bulls are doing what teams are supposed to vs teams that sit their star players
Too bad the Mavs don't win those types of games either.
I hope this game is a game where they are show casing at least 3-4 guys for trade bait and Luka + Green are the foundation guys
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Bulls are 11-14. Are they supposed to do that?
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12-10-2022, 10:47 PM
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I just don't think the type of defensive players Kidd or the FO want are available. That's why we had to give McGee a three year contract and are interested in Noel.
It's funny that someone mentioned D'Antoni in another thread. If he was the coach of this team, then we'd probably finish at the top of the conference. BUT, his stye doesn't work in the playoffs.
Miami is in a similar crux. Problem is the league has become too young, too hungry, and too fast for defensive, playoff built teams to just coast through the season now.
So we can't wait for DFS and Bullock to come on in March.
We have better offensive players than defensive ones, so you're just going to have to lean on that for now.
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12-10-2022, 11:12 PM
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DFS 0-0-1. What kind of stat line is that? In 20 mins?. He didn?t score and had no rebounds. He did have one assist. What was he doing out there? Can?t he score without Luka?
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12-11-2022, 07:27 AM
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Hardy can help. Play him.
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12-11-2022, 01:37 PM
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Quote:
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DFS 0-0-1. What kind of stat line is that? In 20 mins?. He didn?t score and had no rebounds. He did have one assist. What was he doing out there? Can?t he score without Luka?
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That really sad considering he is still me of our longest tenured players. Plus Luka wasn?t there to steal rebounds from him. DFS hasn?t been nearly as productive this season as previous ones it feels like.
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