03-20-2023, 09:26 PM
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Mavs are so bad it should be funny
Bad locker room
Bad coach
Guys want out this off-season and we still won?t have big cap (and we?re boned anyway because even before the cancerous locker room no one wanted to be here
Shit talent
No pick this year
Good pick goes to Knicks
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03-20-2023, 09:32 PM
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#882
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We gotta get rid of THJ. I've somewhat defended him this year, but he is just too unreliable.
He can get the fuck out the door with JKidd.
I mean, our second and third best players this game are hated by the coach. That's the kinda season it is.
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03-20-2023, 10:13 PM
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Honestly think we should reboot.
We didn?t lose this because of THJ. We lost because the entire roster sucks and our coach is an incompetent asshole.
There?s no shame in admitting defeat. Most teams when losing a superstar are bad for decades. We lucked into Luka before Dirk was even retired, but we were so tapped for assets when we got him that we basically couldn?t get a good team around him. Since then we?ve had to call Hail Mary after Hail Mary to try to get him support but any football coach would tell you that you don?t win games when you?re playing 4th and 20 every possession
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03-20-2023, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by JTmoney2424
Just pathetic watching these guys rebound. It?s like not a single one of them was ever taught how to box out before.
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The Lakers are still working out bigs despite having AD, Bamba and Vanderbilt
They looking at Tristian Thompson
It's pretty sad that Dallas for the 2nd year in a row is willing to go down swinging again with Powell and kleber as their top two options at center.
Thompson basically does everything Powell does but at a higher level.
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03-20-2023, 10:24 PM
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#885
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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
We gotta get rid of THJ. I've somewhat defended him this year, but he is just too unreliable.
He can get the fuck out the door with JKidd.
I mean, our second and third best players this game are hated by the coach. That's the kinda season it is.
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For some reason there are still a great deal of fans who believe this guy has value.
Leave it to Timmy boy to go missing in key games as usual.
It's not a surprise how effective the team played without him doing last years playoffs run.
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03-20-2023, 10:27 PM
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Good ol Christian wood
Second-chance points dooms Dallas again
While the flame-throwing Mavericks helped Dallas escape from Los Angeles on Friday, slightly less incandescent shooting paired with the same problem they?ve had all year in offensive rebounding led to a painful loss. Dallas surrendered 17 offensive rebounds and 22 second-chance points to Memphis. Santi Aldama worked Dallas, grabbing five all by himself much to the chagrin of Christian Wood, the Maverick usually closest to him.
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03-20-2023, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Dallas41
Good ol Christian wood
Second-chance points dooms Dallas again
While the flame-throwing Mavericks helped Dallas escape from Los Angeles on Friday, slightly less incandescent shooting paired with the same problem they?ve had all year in offensive rebounding led to a painful loss. Dallas surrendered 17 offensive rebounds and 22 second-chance points to Memphis. Santi Aldama worked Dallas, grabbing five all by himself much to the chagrin of Christian Wood, the Maverick usually closest to him.
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I mean, that sucks, but Wood had the most rebounds on the team so...
This silly saga that everything is Wood's fault is tiresome.
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03-20-2023, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Dallas41
Good ol Christian wood
Second-chance points dooms Dallas again
While the flame-throwing Mavericks helped Dallas escape from Los Angeles on Friday, slightly less incandescent shooting paired with the same problem they?ve had all year in offensive rebounding led to a painful loss. Dallas surrendered 17 offensive rebounds and 22 second-chance points to Memphis. Santi Aldama worked Dallas, grabbing five all by himself much to the chagrin of Christian Wood, the Maverick usually closest to him.
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Blaming C Wood is BS. We have guard/forwards that refuse to box out. Even in the middle of a meltdown they lose track of their man or the "nearest man" to them. Bullock had a few really bad ones including back to back possessions where he lost his guy.
Our shit scheme is to switch everything. Our bigs are away from the rim, often left scrambling to defend 3pt shots. It's paramount for everyone else to box out. At no point do we throw a zone or mix up schemes as they run off 11 straight.
Maxi and DP were garbage at everything tonight. JJJ was out for a large portion of thr game, he comes back in and it's like he was dropped from outer space. Our coaches and players have no idea how to handle it.
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03-20-2023, 11:24 PM
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Some teams are 1 piece away from winning
This team is 7-13 pieces from winning
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03-20-2023, 11:35 PM
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Kyrie in a walking boot
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03-21-2023, 12:42 AM
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Kidd is hands down the worst coach I?ve ever seen. Not even hyperbole.
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03-21-2023, 12:54 AM
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We are just one game behind in the loss column for the 9th worst record. It?s not too late to tank.
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03-21-2023, 09:06 AM
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Kidd said Hardy rolled his ankle and that's why he was taken out.
Unfortunately coach, you have lost the benefit of the doubt in these situations. Hardy had to force your hand into playing the minutes he did.
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03-21-2023, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
Kidd said Hardy rolled his ankle and that's why he was taken out.
Unfortunately coach, you have lost the benefit of the doubt in these situations. Hardy had to force your hand into playing the minutes he did.
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Yeah Im calling bullshit on that. He coupled the ankle roll with wanting to also get vets in the game and "we, myself and the other coaches" so he can deflect blame on them as well.
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03-21-2023, 09:50 AM
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You got to get another coach in here that knows wtf they are doing, Hardy and Green could be sooooo much further along at this point in the season.
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03-21-2023, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Melonhead
You got to get another coach in here that knows wtf they are doing, Hardy and Green could be sooooo much further along at this point in the season.
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I honestly wonder if we trade Luka and SnT Kyrie.
Get some nice young talent + some picks and/or salary dump of THJ/Bertans
Build the team around Green and Hardy but with some decent bigs.
That team might actually have a future.
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03-21-2023, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Melonhead
Yeah Im calling bullshit on that. He coupled the ankle roll with wanting to also get vets in the game and "we, myself and the other coaches" so he can deflect blame on them as well.
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Hardy was clearly bothered by it. He mustered another drive and layup and winced the whole way down. No issue at all in taking him out there.
The issue lies with why it took so long to get him back in. Then not using timeouts to help stunt runs, get guys a breather, slow it down so the team has a better chance at showing poise in that situation.
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03-21-2023, 11:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Melonhead
Yeah Im calling bullshit on that. He coupled the ankle roll with wanting to also get vets in the game and "we, myself and the other coaches" so he can deflect blame on them as well.
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03-21-2023, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
I honestly wonder if we trade Luka and SnT Kyrie.
Get some nice young talent + some picks and/or salary dump of THJ/Bertans
Build the team around Green and Hardy but with some decent bigs.
That team might actually have a future.
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All pointless with Kidd.
He'd roll out a SLU of:
Frank
Bullock
THJ
Maxi
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03-21-2023, 11:31 AM
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I'd also like to point out that Wood and Bertans played together for a long stretch.
This is why we have a coaching problem above all else.
And his post game quotes are just SNL sketches at this point.
https://twitter.com/Mavs_FFL/status/1638213097616809985
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03-22-2023, 12:07 AM
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Just when you thought things couldn't get any worse
The damn OKC Thunder have passed the mavs
How in the hell is it possible that a team with Luka Doncic coming off a WCF'S appearance would be surpassed by OKC
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03-22-2023, 06:41 AM
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Their superstar has bought in, remained healthy, takes his conditioning seriously, takes defense seriously, and moves the ball.
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03-22-2023, 09:09 AM
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The ESPN Power Rankings always blow my mind (Mavs #14) as they give the Mavs entirely too much respect. They obviously don't watch the games and subscribe to the reality of the team.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...retch-run-west
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03-22-2023, 09:57 AM
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OKC has a brighter future than the Mavs, who tore it down with KD/Westbrook and are most likely going to finish with a higher seed (easiest remaining schedule)
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03-22-2023, 10:24 AM
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OKC has a brighter future than the Mavs, who tore it down with KD/Westbrook and are most likely going to finish with a higher seed (easiest remaining schedule)
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It's almost like selling high when the future isn't there is a good call.
We can either let it explode and end up in the lottery with no picks or we can be proactive like the Celtics and Thunder.
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03-22-2023, 10:56 AM
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Treadmill of mediocrity.
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03-22-2023, 11:09 AM
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Cuban is not a tear it down guy. He's a snake oil sales man. Patch the holes on the ship and drive further out to sea
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03-22-2023, 11:24 AM
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I recall saying we might miss the playoffs early this season, but more likely play-in team. JKidd is a key factor in that.
We lose tonight and we are in bad shape. Which is why we needed to close out the 16pt lead vs Grizz. We are steady becoming more and more reliant upon other teams losing. Backing into a play in game is pretty much where I thought we would be after Kidd and FO went off the rails this offseason. Maybe we forgot about Frank. Maybe we didn't start McGee long enough. OR. Maybe we should have started Wood, played Green and Hardy more and stopped yanking these guys around. Maybe it was also Bullock having an abysmal half a season and relying on him way too much. Idk, it seemed obvious but Kidds ego was one of our biggest obstacles.
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03-22-2023, 11:25 AM
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If we didn?t trade for Kyrie, I would agree we need a complete rebuild. As it stands, we have a very good chance to contend next season, but we must:
1) fire Kidd
2) get a big (Naz Reid)
3) consider tanking to keep our pick (the value of a top ten pick who?s on a rookie scale contract and then a RFA is through the roof)
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03-22-2023, 11:58 AM
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Luka upgraded to probable for tonight.
As for the future, it all starts with Kyrie. I'd love him back, to be honest. It's either re-sign him or you better work a sign and trade to recoup some assets.
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03-22-2023, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by tap2390
If we didn?t trade for Kyrie, I would agree we need a complete rebuild. As it stands, we have a very good chance to contend next season, but we must:
1) fire Kidd
2) get a big (Naz Reid)
3) consider tanking to keep our pick (the value of a top ten pick who?s on a rookie scale contract and then a RFA is through the roof)
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I'd be looking at how I'm going to replace Kyrie and Wood this offseason.
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03-22-2023, 12:59 PM
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Luka playing tonight.
Kidd can now rest easy giving Hardy a DNP.
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03-22-2023, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
Luka playing tonight.
Kidd can now rest easy giving Hardy a DNP.
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He'll have good reason not to play Hardy as we cruise to a 20pt 3rd quarter lead
Then after we lose, he will say that he played his best guys and taking a timeout is offensive because it shows distrust in the players. We shrug and nothing happens.
At least a loss gets a a sliver of a chance at keeping that draft pick.
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03-22-2023, 02:33 PM
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In my opinion, and I hate to harp on this or beat a dead horse... One issue is Luka's unwillingness to stop complaining to the officials and help his teammates play defense. Extremely immature and shows no signs of comprising to shut the f up. Another issue is his conditioning that has completely taken him out of goat status much less the MVP race. If only one of these two issues was resolved or never arose this year, I don't think we are crying for Kidd to be fired.
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03-22-2023, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ShaggyDirk
In my opinion, and I hate to harp on this or beat a dead horse... One issue is Luka's unwillingness to stop complaining to the officials and help his teammates play defense. Extremely immature and shows no signs of comprising to shut the f up. Another issue is his conditioning that has completely taken him out of goat status much less the MVP race. If only one of these two issues was resolved or never arose this year, I don't think we are crying for Kidd to be fired.
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On the ole social bird, someone mentioned on Tim Cato's podcast that Luka's extended absence was as much to do with his conditioning as anything.
Not really sure I buy it though. Luka not playing doesn't generally get him into shape.
And yes, Luka needs to stop thinking the league is out to get him. Refs are shit and get back on defense.
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03-22-2023, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
On the ole social bird, someone mentioned on Tim Cato's podcast that Luka's extended absence was as much to do with his conditioning as anything.
Not really sure I buy it though. Luka not playing doesn't generally get him into shape.
And yes, Luka needs to stop thinking the league is out to get him. Refs are shit and get back on defense.
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The fact that we are still talking about luka's conditioning and committ to it after 5 years now is ridiculous
JJ Barea mentioned this about Luka his rookie year
Said Luka needed to take it more seriius and we still talking about it 4 years later
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03-22-2023, 04:45 PM
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In my opinion, and I hate to harp on this or beat a dead horse... One issue is Luka's unwillingness to stop complaining to the officials and help his teammates play defense. Extremely immature and shows no signs of comprising to shut the f up. Another issue is his conditioning that has completely taken him out of goat status much less the MVP race. If only one of these two issues was resolved or never arose this year, I don't think we are crying for Kidd to be fired.
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Those 2 things about Luka suck. No doubt. But the problem with Kidd is his dumbass decisions. Ok'ing the McGee start to get him here. C. WOOD a bench guy from day 1. We forgot about Frank quote. Last but not least is thr severely botch rotations and lineups.
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03-22-2023, 06:51 PM
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Bruh Powell wtf blown two great passes by Luka
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03-22-2023, 06:54 PM
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Luka still looks hobbled smh
They lose tonight, shut it down
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03-22-2023, 06:58 PM
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Holiday in before Hardy???? Fuck Kidd
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