Rangers starting pitching

[Murphy3]

i'm not going to go too far in depth with this..just wanting to show who's making quality starts and who's not..

Thomson: 2 quality, 1 not
Valdes: 3 quality, 1 not
Lewis: 2 quality, 1 not
Park: 1 quality, 2 not
Drese: 1 not

A quality start is basically throwing 6 innings or more with an ERA 4.50 or lower

8 quality starts, 6 poor starts

The thing that is most encouraging is that Thomson, Valdes, and Lewis all have top quality major league "stuff".

All three have the ability to dominate when they are on. When's the last time you could say that about three rangers' starters?

[Drbio]

If Park can just be a good number 4 guy, maybe we can get Davis to be a serviceable #5. That rotation has potential.

[Murphy3]

by no means will it be a dominant rotation..but, it can turn into a serviceable rotation that can get the rangers up around the .500 mark

the Rangers do need to get another young arm in the rotation..whether it's benoit or davis.

drese or dreese has no business being in the rotation..he's not part of the future..

[Dooby]

If I am the Rangers, I bring in a structural engineer and ask him if there is any way to stop that wind tunnel that forms over the field.

I remember when it was built, people thought the ballpark would be a pitchers' park. But then they added that Gold Club at the last minute and created a damn vortex into the friggin' outfield.

[Murphy3]

just make sure you have winds like last night more often..probably knocked down 4-5 rangers home runs

[jayC]

Maybe Park is getting back to his old dodger self. He has improved every start this year and should be good enough to be a solid 3 in most rotations.

[Murphy3]

hopefully, jayc

I'm thoroughly impressed with thomson's stuff so far this season..as with the cobra.

but thomson has been making pitches exactly where he has wanted them the past couple of starts. he has great stuff..very exciting to watchin him pitch

[jayC]

It would be nice if the rangers didn't give up on Loaiza too soon.
ESPN Fantasy:
If Esteban Loaiza ran a marathon, it's pretty clear he'd have the lead after the first half mile. History also suggests he'd need to pull a Rosie Ruiz to win. After Thursday domination, 11 strikeouts in six innings, Loaiza has three wins and a 1.31 ERA . Deja vu? Loaiza was 3-1 with a 2.50 ERA in his first four starts last season, and 4-1 with a 2.77 ERA at the start of 2001. Just don't forget he was 13-19 with an ERA above 5.00 the rest of the time.
Maybe this pitcher wasn't nearly as bad as norm had said it would be the worst pitching staff in major league history. Then again Randy Galloway said the samething. If we just get 4.70 ERA stuff we can win 95 games with this lineup. The rangers have already hit 30 homeruns.

[Drbio]

Loiaza has a big bag of nothing.

[jayC]

MADDUX first two years 5.52 and 5.61 ERA
Pitchers sometimes take time maybe Loiaza has found his niche. And for the rangers pitching staff they all have a big bag except for Lewis. Loiaza might be coming into his own.

ERA
1986 ChC 6 5 1 0 31.0 44 20 19 3 11 20 2 4 0 0 -- 5.52
1987 ChC 30 27 1 0 155.2 181 111 97 17 74 101 6 14 0 0 -- 5.61
1988 ChC 34 34 9 3 249.0 230 97 88 13 81 140 18 8 0 0 -- 3.18
1989 ChC 35 35 7 1 238.1 222 90 78 13 82 135 19 12 0 0 -- 2.95
1990 ChC 35 35 8 2 237.0 242 116 91 11 71 144 15 15 0 0 -- 3.46
1991 ChC 37 37 7 2 263.0 232 113 98 18 66 198 15 11 0 0 -- 3.35
1992 ChC 35 35 9 4 268.0 201 68 65 7 70 199 20 11 0 0 -- 2.18
1993 Atl 36 36 8 1 267.0 228 85 70 14 52 197 20 10 0 0 -- 2.36
1994 Atl 25 25 10 3 202.0 150 44 35 4 31 156 16 6 0 0 -- 1.56
1995 Atl 28 28 10 3 209.2 147 39 38 8 23 181 19 2 0 0 -- 1.63
1996 Atl 35 35 5 1 245.0 225 85 74 11 28 172 15 11 0 0 -- 2.72
1997 Atl 33 33 5 2 232.2 200 58 57 9 20 177 19 4 0 0 -- 2.21
1998 Atl 34 34 9 5 251.0 201 75 62 13 45 204 18 9 0 0 -- 2.22
1999 Atl 33 33 4 0 219.1 258 103 87 16 37 136 19 9 0 0 -- 3.57
2000 Atl 35 35 6 3 249.1 225 91 83 19 42 190 19 9 0 0 -- 3.00
2001 Atl 34 34 3 3 233.0 220 86 79 20 27 173 17 11 0 0 -- 3.05
2002 Atl 34 34 0 0 199.1 194 67 58 14 45 118 16 6 0 0 -- 2.62
2003 Atl 5 5 0 0 26.1 39 29 22 7 7 19 1 3 0 0 -- 7.52
Total -- 544 540 102 33 3776.2 3439 1377 1201 217 812 2660 274 155 0 0 -- 2.86

[Drbio]

And yet he still has a big bag of nothing.