11-07-2003, 07:27 PM
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Rasheed Wallace on trading block
Would you do it???
"About 90 minutes before Wednesday's game, Trail Blazers president Steve Patterson and general manager John Nash called a meeting with Rasheed Wallace and coach Maurice Cheeks, presumably to inform the guys I'm about to jump off the bandwagon. Either that, or something may be brewing at One Center Court. After the closed-door meeting, Nash would say only that they discussed "a variety of topics" with Wallace, but a Blazers source said that the forward's future with the team was on the list of items discussed. As in, "You're about to become a free agent, bub. Figure it out." Oregonian
Dallas trades: PF Antoine Walker (20.1 ppg, 7.2 rpg, 4.8 apg in 41.5 minutes)
SF Eduardo Najera (6.7 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 1.0 apg in 23.0 minutes)
Dallas receives: PF Rasheed Wallace (18.1 ppg, 7.4 rpg, 2.1 apg in 36.3 minutes)
Change in team outlook: -8.7 ppg, -4.5 rpg, and -3.7 apg.
Portland trades: PF Rasheed Wallace (18.1 ppg, 7.4 rpg, 2.1 apg in 36.3 minutes)
Portland receives: PF Antoine Walker (20.1 ppg, 7.2 rpg, 4.8 apg in 78 games)
SF Eduardo Najera (6.7 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 1.0 apg in 48 games)
Change in team outlook: +8.7 ppg, +4.5 rpg, and +3.7 apg.
TRADE ACCEPTED
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Dallas trades: SG Tariq Abdul-Wahad (4.1 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 1.5 apg in 14.6 minutes)
PF Antoine Walker (20.1 ppg, 7.2 rpg, 4.8 apg in 41.5 minutes)
Dallas receives: PG Jeff McInnis (5.8 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 2.3 apg in 17.5 minutes)
PF Rasheed Wallace (18.1 ppg, 7.4 rpg, 2.1 apg in 36.3 minutes)
Change in team outlook: -0.3 ppg, -1.4 rpg, and -1.9 apg.
Portland trades: PG Jeff McInnis (5.8 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 2.3 apg in 17.5 minutes)
PF Rasheed Wallace (18.1 ppg, 7.4 rpg, 2.1 apg in 36.3 minutes)
Portland receives: SG Tariq Abdul-Wahad (4.1 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 1.5 apg in 14 games)
PF Antoine Walker (20.1 ppg, 7.2 rpg, 4.8 apg in 78 games)
Change in team outlook: +0.3 ppg, +1.4 rpg, and +1.9 apg.
TRADE ACCEPTED
I'd do both, the second one even more so. Najera i thought was disposable because we would be bring in another forward who is capable of playing 35+ minutes a night with dirk, antawn, and forston, howard etc
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11-07-2003, 07:33 PM
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RE:Rasheed Wallace on trading block
Crap no I wouldn't do this trade! Just what we need another forward and another PG. As ape said in another thread, defense, oddly enough, isn't the problem. Scoring is. Walker for Wallace is horrible.
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11-07-2003, 07:38 PM
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RE: Rasheed Wallace on trading block
No way. Maybe if we could trade any combination of Najera, Fortson, Finley, TAW, Howard, Daniels and Jon Steffanson for a package featuring Bonzi and Rasheed, but in no way should we ship out one of our 'T(w)oines to pick up Sheed...
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11-07-2003, 07:57 PM
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RE:Rasheed Wallace on trading block
are you kidding. you wouldnt swap antoine for rasheed. i think rasheed is much more talented, ESPECIALLY on the defensive end and has a better inside game(or potential for one). just a thought, i have always liked rasheeds game but NEVER his attitude, and the whole thing about scoring being a problem is just crap. A team with steve nash, mike finley, dirk, aj does not have a scoring problem, they have shooting slumps and spacing issues. just my views
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11-07-2003, 08:05 PM
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RE:Rasheed Wallace on trading block
I wouldn't give ANY one of the Mavs top 5 players for Wallace OR Bonzi. Neither of them appeal to me at all.
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11-07-2003, 08:11 PM
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RE:Rasheed Wallace on trading block
I would do the trade without Najera. Walker and Jamison are basically in the same role and I would rather have Jamison than the turnover prone Walker. Nash, Fin, Jamison, Dirk and Rasheed will be a crazy combination.
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11-07-2003, 08:28 PM
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RE: Rasheed Wallace on trading block
I don't think we need a player like Rasheed anymore. Plus, Najera is doing pretty well lately coming off the bench, the team plays well with him out there. Rasheed is way too unstable, I don't like him. Only guy on the blazers that would appeal to the mavs would be Zach Randolf, hopefully he didn't spend enough time with the other pot-heads over there to cause problems over here. And we all know the Blazers will not part with Randolf.
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11-07-2003, 09:38 PM
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RE:Rasheed Wallace on trading block
For the love of..... Please stop. Just stop it. We don't need players like Jalen Rose or Rasheed. No, it's not there attitudes it's just we don't need them as players. We have scorers. It's clear. We have a power foward in Dirk. I'm sick of these trade ideas. I just can't take it anymore. We need a center. This is my last post in any trade thread that doesn't fix our main need which is a big man.
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11-07-2003, 11:05 PM
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RE: Rasheed Wallace on trading block
Can the Mavs afford to make another big trade right now? Are they not having a hard enough time getting their stuff together without having to throw in another mix?
Unless they plan to fold and let this season be a learning experience, I'd rather they not make another big trade.
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11-07-2003, 11:48 PM
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RE:Rasheed Wallace on trading block
I would do it in a heart beat, just cause I hate Walkers game.
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11-08-2003, 12:18 AM
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RE:Rasheed Wallace on trading block
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Originally posted by: Evilmav2
No way. Maybe if we could trade any combination of Najera, Fortson, Finley, TAW, Howard, Daniels and Jon Steffanson for a package featuring Bonzi and Rasheed, but in no way should we ship out one of our 'T(w)oines to pick up Sheed...
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Seriously, you wouldn't prefer Sheed to either Walker or Jamison? It must be because of Sheed's generally unstable nature, and not his skills on a basketball floor.
If the Mavs have any chance of getting Sheed, I'd recommend getting him, for the following reasons: 1) He has a legitimate back-to-the basket skill set, rivaled only by Duncan (Shaq doesn't count because size and brute force aren't skills); 2) He doesn't want to be the main man - he hasn't put up any fuss about any suggestion that the Blazers aren't his team, or that some other player is the team leader...he has allowed Randolph to take over at the PF spot with little national complain; and 3) size and athleticism on defense at the PF spot.
I haven't watched any Blazer games, but if Sheed's switch to SF is working out for the Blazers defensively, I'd say make a trade with Sheed and Walker being the principal parts in a minute. If Sheed can defend either the 3, 4 or 5, that allows Dirk to defend the weaker (weakest?) of those three positions.
And, Sheed doesn't play point-forward, so he isn't taking the ball out of Nash's hands, which is the main reason I think the Mavs' offense has not been as smooth (of course, Nash hasn't been playing in the last two games due to injury, but the Mavs didn't really light it when he was playing, at least not against the Lakers).
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11-08-2003, 12:25 AM
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RE:Rasheed Wallace on trading block
I don't know him enough to make the call. Talent-wise, I certainly would take him over walker or jamison. Although I'm still intrigued with walker.
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