03-23-2004, 09:27 AM
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The Mavs only Hope
The Mavs only hope this season is for Nellie to play Bradley at least 30 minutes a game? Drastic changes are needed and Bradley must be in the game the majority of the time for things to really change for the Mavs. Bradley is well rested and can easily sustain 20 games of playing heavy minutes from here on out. Also, it is time for Nellie and Donnie to understand that Walker just isn't very good and shouldn't play more than 20 minutes a game. Anybody agree?
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03-23-2004, 09:51 AM
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RE:The Mavs only Hope
Bookit, I'd be happy if the Mavs simply started Bradley and played him consistently. 30 minutes, well, I'm not sure he could go that long without fouling out. Our perimeter defense is so atrocious that he can't possibly turn back every opponent attacking the rim. At least he can turn back a bunch of them before fouling out, though.
I'd rather the Mavs play Shawn each game the rest of the season until he fouls out than continue to underutilize him.
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03-23-2004, 09:59 AM
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RE:The Mavs only Hope
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Originally posted by: kg_veteran
I'd rather the Mavs play Shawn each game the rest of the season until he fouls out than continue to underutilize him.
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Exactly. Something has to change and change right now. Bradley seems to be the only hope right now. Nellie should just keep him in the game regardless of how many fouls he has. He should explain to him that he isn't coming out and focus on limiting your fouls. I probably won't work but you never know. Bradley seems to change the game when he is on the floor.
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03-23-2004, 11:44 AM
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RE: The Mavs only Hope
The Zone experiment must end on the double.
Here's your drastic change.
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03-23-2004, 12:16 PM
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RE:The Mavs only Hope
bradley should get more minutes...hard to hear me say that, but this is true. However the rst of the mavs just need to stop being turnstyles. shouldn't you step up if your coach (a non defensive coach) calls you a turnstyle? It boggles the mind.
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03-23-2004, 12:36 PM
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RE:The Mavs only Hope
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Originally posted by: Chiwas
The Zone experiment must end on the double.
Here's your drastic change.
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Yep, there is a reason opposing teams murder the Mavs from the 3 point line. Scrap the zone and tell the players to play some man on man for a change.
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03-23-2004, 02:01 PM
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RE: The Mavs only Hope
I'd like to see the Mavs start a lineup of Nash, Fin, Jho/AJ, Dirk, and Williams. Scott seems to be the most well-rounded, least specialized center so he's the one I'd feel safest starting against anyone. Walker is a needless defensive liability at starting SF and only rarely plays the kind of offense the team needs to start games I don't have a problem with him backing up the PF spot, or playing some SF when either AJ or JHo are having an ineffective night. Bradley should also get considerable use, pretty much all six fouls worth every night. It's really inexcusable that he's become so neglected.
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03-23-2004, 02:29 PM
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RE:The Mavs only Hope
A Coaching change might do it. Byron Scott was doing a good job and was a talented coach but the Nets got somewhat back on track when they put in Frank.
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03-23-2004, 05:40 PM
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RE:The Mavs only Hope
I heard on the radio calling the mavs defense the "ole" defense, as in a bull fighter moving out of the way so the bull can pass....I think it sums up our D pretty well
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03-23-2004, 05:53 PM
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RE:The Mavs only Hope
I'm one of the few guys who support Walker on this board but I think you have to have either Bradley or Scott Williams in there. I prefer Scott for his banging ability on the defensive end. I leave Jamison in the lineup for being an instant bucket inside.
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03-23-2004, 06:10 PM
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RE:The Mavs only Hope
"Help me OB-Shawn, you're my only hope"
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03-23-2004, 06:13 PM
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RE:The Mavs only Hope
Nellie and Shawn? Bad combination. Bradley will never get any significant PT as long as Nellie is a coach. Bradley get no love yesterday. 5 mins of PT on his 32nd birthday.
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03-23-2004, 06:49 PM
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RE:The Mavs only Hope
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Originally posted by: DNNF
Nellie and Shawn? Bad combination. Bradley will never get any significant PT as long as Nellie is a coach. Bradley get no love yesterday. 5 mins of PT on his 32nd birthday.
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Because we were trailing and to top it off we were getting beat from the outside more than the inside. How many threes? 11? There is nothing Bradley can do about that.
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03-23-2004, 07:14 PM
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RE:The Mavs only Hope
Jamison is completely underutilized also. He's been dropping 14+ ppg off the bench, just think what he'd be able to do as a starter. He also has one of the best FG %'s on the team at .519. Najera should see more minutes, also. In terms of Shawn Bradley, he's a great defensive player, but since he can't drop 50 on any given night and hit consistent 3-ball after 3-ball, idioto Don Nelson will never give him significant playing time. He'd make a good starter, but Nelson doesn't care about defense... we've already been over that. And Walker would be better a lot of the time if he were a bench player, because we could utilize his rebounding skills without wasting trips down the court with his forced shots. Basically, most of the team's problems lie in the shoot-first, defend later mentality of Don Nelson.
I'd like to see this starting lineup:
Nash/Daniels
Finley
Jamison/Howard
Nowitzki
Bradley/Fortson
with Najera subbing in at PF and C whenever needed or another C is in foul trouble. I'd like to see this guy play at least 20+ minutes every game from here on out.
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03-24-2004, 12:53 AM
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RE: The Mavs only Hope
Does anybody remember how great Bradley played under Jim Cleamons? He was energized and motivated. How many people on this board know that Bradley has put up 20/20 games? Nellie comes in and promptly lowers the expectations of Bradley and, hence, lowers his production. This is a very common response in human nature. Expect more, get more. Expect less, get less. If I was Bradley, I wouldn't be very motivated, either.
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03-24-2004, 01:11 AM
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RE: The Mavs only Hope
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Does anybody remember how great Bradley played under Jim Cleamons? How many people on this board know that Bradley has put up 20/20 games?
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I for one, remember Bradley's 20-20 games, numerous triple-doubles, and multiple shot-blocking titles. But unfortunately, I also remember that all of that impressive production and dominance occurred during the Don Nelson Era of Maverick's basketball.
Big #44 never actually played for Cleamons, because it was Mr. Nelson who effected the largest trade in NBA history (back in 97-98, if memory serves) to pick up Shawn Bradley (along with Ed O'Bannon and other assorted roster trash), after the Perot group had kicked Jim Cleamons and his broken-triangle offense to the curb.
That said, I do heartily appreciate your support for Big #44, even if it is based upon faulty assumptions...
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03-24-2004, 01:20 AM
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RE:The Mavs only Hope
thats what is so strange about Nellie's chip on his shoulder. Bradley isnt a relic from a previous era- he's a guy that Nelson helped bring in.
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