05-01-2004, 12:41 AM
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Jamison must go
Jamison is most likely to start next year OR be traded.
So where does he go, IF he has to go??
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05-01-2004, 12:48 AM
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RE: Jamison must go
Jamson must go? I don't get why?
Hopefully Walker is the one who is traded, opening up a spot for Jamison.
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05-01-2004, 12:52 AM
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RE: Jamison must go
I don't think he has to go either. I'm sure they'll be some calls for him and the Mavs will listen, but it's not like they must send him packing.
If he does stay, he has to start. You can tell he was fine with the experiment of coming off the bench this season, but I don't think he stays happy long if they try it again this season.
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05-01-2004, 04:33 AM
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RE: Jamison must go
Jamison does not need to go. MFF is right, though. If he stays, he needs to start. He's good enough, and he deserves to be a starter for this team.
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05-01-2004, 04:39 AM
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RE: Jamison must go
He has the talent to start. The problem is that the big three has to start too. Putting Jamison on the court with them gives us a god awful defensive lineup, even with a defensive center ***crosses fingers***.
Minn will have the same problem next season. Walley agreed to come off of the bench this season since he's been injured, but he has no intention of doing it next year.
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05-01-2004, 08:00 AM
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RE: Jamison must go
Not only does Jamison not have to go, he is very unlikely to go. Not a whole lot of teasms are loooking to take that contract of his on. While I like his game, a max contract for him is excessive. If you move the Mavs are likely to get only crappy contracts back. Might as well keep him.
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05-01-2004, 11:57 AM
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RE:Jamison must go
Like dirno2000 said, Mavs need defense and like everybody else said he needs to start next season. I was asking, if Jamison is traded....where is he likely to go & for whom?????
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05-01-2004, 12:39 PM
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RE: Jamison must go
Surely he's won some new fans with his classy and efficient performance this season. But I haven't heard any rumors about teams that are looking seriously at him. Who knows, but his salary means we're probably not going to get value in return. As for defense, I woulldn't expect our starting lineup to be gangbusters defensively if we're starting him alongside the Big 3 next year (understatement), but I'll take our chances outscoring the opponent's starting lineup more often than not with that group. Between Quis and JHo getting another year under their belts, plenty of good defensive minutes at the center position, and a training camp not broken up by blockbuster trades, there's no reason to think the team can't at least get back up to the average defensive level they were at in 02-03. A team that leads the league in offense, is near the top in rebounding, and at least plays on the same page defensively is a very good team.
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05-01-2004, 01:09 PM
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RE: Jamison must go
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I was asking, if Jamison is traded....where is he likely to go & for whom?????
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I still come back to Charlotte. His contract would be the biggest negative, but he's a solid guy on and off the court. He could help mold a team, but not really someone you want to build everything around. The first year is a test drive anyway so next summer is when you'll have a better idea of what needs to go and what needs to be brought in. Another way of looking at is whether they can find a better player with the #4 pick?
Portland showed interest and is a team willing to take on a big contract. A combo of Randolph and Jamison up front is pretty solid. Who do they give up is the problem. Jamison/Najera for Abdur-Rahim works, but is that a need for us?
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05-01-2004, 11:18 PM
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RE:Jamison must go
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Originally posted by: MavsFanFinley
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I was asking, if Jamison is traded....where is he likely to go & for whom?????
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I still come back to Charlotte. His contract would be the biggest negative, but he's a solid guy on and off the court. He could help mold a team, but not really someone you want to build everything around. The first year is a test drive anyway so next summer is when you'll have a better idea of what needs to go and what needs to be brought in. Another way of looking at is whether they can find a better player with the #4 pick?
Portland showed interest and is a team willing to take on a big contract. A combo of Randolph and Jamison up front is pretty solid. Who do they give up is the problem. Jamison/Najera for Abdur-Rahim works, but is that a need for us?
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Jamisons contract would eat a good portion of their first year salary cap (which is smaller then the normal cap if I remember correctly). Jamison´s not a franchise player you want to build your expansion team around, so all in all I think it´s unlikely Charlotte would want him.
Besides that we need to send this other player, whose name I allready forgot, out of town before anything else.
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05-02-2004, 03:13 PM
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RE:Jamison must go
I find it doubtful that Jamison will go anywhere - except the starting lineup.
I think Antawn made a ton of fans this season - both in the crowd and in the front office. I think he'll come back and become a more integral part of this team. I believe that starting Jamison and his "instant offense" would keep this team away from a lot of their early defecits while they're getting loose enough to hit their jumpers.
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05-18-2004, 11:41 AM
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RE:Jamison must go
But what about his DEFENSE???
I think a defensive-minded SF plus C would greatly improve the mavs....We are not one Diop/Chandler away from the championship. We two defensive specialists to surround the Big 3 with.
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05-18-2004, 11:46 AM
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RE: Jamison must go
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But what about his DEFENSE???
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In my opinion, and the available statistics suggest I'm right, AJ's offensive value outweighs his defensive shortcomings. Are there other small forwards in the league I think would be better on this team? Yes, there are, but the list is very short, and AJ's been too successful on the court as a Mav and especially with Dirk for him to need to be traded.
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05-18-2004, 12:34 PM
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RE:Jamison must go
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Originally posted by: ddh33
I find it doubtful that Jamison will go anywhere - except the starting lineup.
I think Antawn made a ton of fans this season - both in the crowd and in the front office. I think he'll come back and become a more integral part of this team. I believe that starting Jamison and his "instant offense" would keep this team away from a lot of their early defecits while they're getting loose enough to hit their jumpers.
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Jamison made a lot of fans 'cause :
1.) He didn't open his mouth to complain about PT
2.) He's not Scapegoat-material like Walker is.
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05-18-2004, 12:38 PM
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RE:Jamison must go
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Originally posted by: bcrav4
But what about his DEFENSE???
I think a defensive-minded SF plus C would greatly improve the mavs....We are not one Diop/Chandler away from the championship. We two defensive specialists to surround the Big 3 with.
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Does JHo provide that defense? I would exchange Jamison for Artest any day, but not for Bruce Bowen. Jamison has his role on this team and IMO doesn't need to go (although he can for the right piece). We had defensive-minded SF's in Griff and Bell, and knew that the position needed to be upgraded. It is a fine line. Defense- yes, but offense -yes as well. If they do not play offense, then their defenders either get to rest, or help out on the Big 3.
We have one of the best defensive-minded, shot-blocking, Centers in the league with Shawn Bradley, but he doesn't get off the bench because he cannot get healthy and out of Nellies doghouse.
To win it all, you are going to need a couple Diop/Chandler is a great start, provided they keep Bradley. At least the offense will be designed around having a Center in the game, and keeping Dirk at the 4. This in itself will make the team better.
JHo, and Daniels developing into better players on both ends of the floor will help as well.
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If Jamison has to go, I am expecting East Coast.......Charlotte, Atlanta, Miami, Orlando, New Jersey, or maybe New Orleans.
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05-18-2004, 12:41 PM
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RE:Jamison must go
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Originally posted by: MightyToine
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Originally posted by: ddh33
I find it doubtful that Jamison will go anywhere - except the starting lineup.
I think Antawn made a ton of fans this season - both in the crowd and in the front office. I think he'll come back and become a more integral part of this team. I believe that starting Jamison and his "instant offense" would keep this team away from a lot of their early defecits while they're getting loose enough to hit their jumpers.
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Jamison made a lot of fans 'cause :
1.) He didn't open his mouth to complain about PT
2.) He's not Scapegoat-material like Walker is.
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3.) He actually fit in with the Mavs offense.
4.) He didn't take tons of bad shots and miss most of them.
5.) He was a valuable addition, as denoted by his 6th man of the year award.
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05-18-2004, 12:49 PM
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RE:Jamison must go
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Originally posted by: LRB
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Originally posted by: MightyToine
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Originally posted by: ddh33
I find it doubtful that Jamison will go anywhere - except the starting lineup.
I think Antawn made a ton of fans this season - both in the crowd and in the front office. I think he'll come back and become a more integral part of this team. I believe that starting Jamison and his "instant offense" would keep this team away from a lot of their early defecits while they're getting loose enough to hit their jumpers.
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Jamison made a lot of fans 'cause :
1.) He didn't open his mouth to complain about PT
2.) He's not Scapegoat-material like Walker is.
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3.) He actually fit in with the Mavs offense.
4.) He didn't take tons of bad shots and miss most of them.
5.) He was a valuable addition, as denoted by his 6th man of the year award.
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6.) Nobody named MightyJamison followed him to Dallas.
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05-18-2004, 12:56 PM
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RE:Jamison must go
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.) Nobody named MightyJamison followed him to Dallas.
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lol. The best yet. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
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05-19-2004, 02:10 PM
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RE:Jamison must go
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Originally posted by: LRB
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.) Nobody named MightyJamison followed him to Dallas.
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lol. The best yet. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
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Damn. I gotta agree. That was Classic. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
and so true.
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05-19-2004, 02:22 PM
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RE: Jamison must go
damn...that was funny.
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