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dude1394 · 01-21-2005, 09:58 PM

The democrats are back to their bigoted ways.

kkk byrd speaks for the dems

Now Reid has moved his chess pieces again, allowing ex-Klansman Robert Byrd, of all people, to hold up the confirmation of the first black woman to serve as Secretary of State. Byrd claims that the nomination needs further debate (sheets optional), but that's traditionally what the confirmation hearings are intended to provide. A 16-2 endorsement hardly requires further debate. It's political grandstanding of the most pathetic nature, since Rice's confirmation is assured regardless, and most Democrats will probably vote for her.

FishForLunch · 01-22-2005, 12:48 AM

How can a democrat be a racist? Bryd must have been a really decent, caring, loving KKK member in his time.

#1MavsFan · 01-22-2005, 05:21 AM

Boxer doesn't care if she's going to get confirmed or not, she wants to bring the issues attached with Rice up for debate(its a democracy after all). Since Rice has made many mistakes in her past job and anyone with common sense knows she's just a (another) yes person. Someone that actually considers that racism is quite igorant and doesn't know the meaning of a democracy at all.

It's sad when a senator actually steps up and talks about some (key)issues than gets ciriticized for doing so.

dude1394 · 01-22-2005, 11:41 AM

Ah yes, that uppity conservative is just another yes person, no matter that she's probably got more smarts in her pinkie than boxer and KKK byrd combined.

Rhylan · 01-22-2005, 12:00 PM

If a former KKK member who was a REPUBLICAN blocked confirmation of a black cabinet member or judge, it would be the lead story in every major news outlet.

dude1394 · 01-22-2005, 12:10 PM

If there were ANY former KKK Grand Wizard who was a republican, they would be hounded out of office by the media.

dude1394 · 01-22-2005, 02:17 PM

Maybe KKKByrd is just parrotting these "librules". Dems better be careful you can just subject so many prominent african-americans before the truth begins to sink in that maybe, just maybe, the leftists aren't nearly as interested in helping them become independent as they are of getting their votes.

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I'm sure no one has missed the attacks on Condi Rice by certain left leaning media members over the past few days.

A group of some 200 black clergy have stepped forward to denounce these attacks:

The Faith Based Leadership Council, a group of over 200 black clergy and members of the faith-based community, said cartoonists Jeff Danzinger, Pat Oliphant, Garry Trudeau, the Post and the Times have used racial stereotypes "to conduct their personal character assassination of" Rice's integrity because she chose to serve the Bush administration.

"These cartoonists believe that the liberal views of the Washington Post and New York Times somehow provides cover for them to engage in racist attacks upon Dr. Rice and other minority in the Bush Administration," said Oliver N.E. Kellman, Jr., executive director of the FBLC, in a statement.

Fair enough, and good to see. But then comes the big question, the question, up till now, that hasn't been asked, at least not out loud:

"Mr. Danzinger's, Mr. Oliphant's and Mr. Trudeau's racist depictions of Dr. Rice are of the most twisted Ku Kluz Klan/Skinhead Mindset. I am astonished that the NAACP, Rainbow-Push and other traditional civil rights groups did not denounce this type of trash from the very first day it was reported," Kellman said in a statement.

"Instead, they are silent witnesses to this racially motivated character assassination because of Dr. Rice's politics," he added. "The FBIC believes in the advancement of all Americans, no matter their political affiliation, gender or ethnic background.

"Dr. Rice has been singled out for persecution by a handful of bigoted liberals who have characterized her as a steppin and fetchin sambo," said Kellman, adding that he believes "they feel threatened and disturbed by the fact that Dr. Rice will soon be the most powerful Black woman in the United States as Secretary of State."

As a matter of fact, I'm a bit astonished as well. Where is the NAACP on this? Where is Jackson's Rainbow/PUSH? I thought these organizations existed to stamp out the very sort of racist bigotry that is being used against Rice by the left.

Instead we are treated to the sound of crickets.

Apparently there's a litmus test one has to pass before they can count on the NAACP or Rainbow/PUSH's support.

You can't just be the right color, you have to be of the right ideology. Otherwise, or so it seems, racism just isn't that big of a deal to them.

Maybe the NAACP should consider changing its name from the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) to the National Association for the Advancment of Some Colored People (NAACSP). Their lack of reaction to these scurrilous attacks on Dr. Rice seem to warrant such a change.

UPDATE: It appears Kweisi Mfume of the NAACP has made some remarks about an attack on Dr. Rice, that by a radio talk show host who called her "Aunt Jemima".

NAACP president Kweisi Mfume said people who make such remarks "are just as bad as those who hide under sheets and burn crosses." Mfume said Rice is "an example of how far hard work, education and determination can take one to new heights."

I'm glad to see that. Now will they turn the same sort of remarks on the three cartoonists cited above? (hat tip to reader Fritz Schranck)

dude1394 · 01-22-2005, 02:22 PM

Of course maybe KKKByrd/Boxer really agree with oliphant

or maybe this is how they feel

reeds · 01-24-2005, 11:16 PM

"The democrats are back to their bigoted ways. "

WOW- I am thankful I was sitting down when I read that! A republican calling a democrat a bigot...TOO FUNNY..

I know what the red south thinks of us "yankees"...and I know what the red south fought for in the 1860s...the more things change, the more they stay the same...RED necks and racists go together like peanut butter and jelly...

FishForLunch · 01-24-2005, 11:41 PM

Reeds it is 2005 not 1860.

dude1394 · 01-24-2005, 11:50 PM

How many grand imperial wizards of the KKK are in the republican party?

I know which party was instrumental in passing the civil rights legislation.
I know which party was responsible for the emancipation proclamation
I know which party believes that a person should be judged by their merit and not the color of their skid or their sex.
I know which party believes that all people can succeed and don't need a handout but a handup.

I know which party is full of intellectual snobs and religious bigots who believe they know best for the "people". That the "people" aren't competent enough to spend their own money, manage their own lives or make the choices needed for their families.

It's always been the same with leftists.

FishForLunch · 01-25-2005, 12:07 AM

Atleast the leftists care and feel your pain

reeds · 01-25-2005, 12:57 PM

When you think of "Rednecks" what comes to mind? The south, the pickup trucks with gun racks..its obvious- you all know it but wont admit it..the "N" bomb is used down south more than any other derogatory word in the English language..but still its spun that the Democrats are more racist..unreal

"I know which party was instrumental in passing the civil rights legislation".....hmmm..talk about living in the past! Back then the republican party cared about all classes of people- not just the rich...

u2sarajevo · 01-25-2005, 01:20 PM

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When you think of "Rednecks" what comes to mind? The south, the pickup trucks with gun racks..its obvious- you all know it but wont admit it..the "N" bomb is used down south more than any other derogatory word in the English language..but still its spun that the Democrats are more racist..unreal

You are so ignorant about that reeds. I can't remember the last time I heard that most ugly of English language words.. and I've lived in Texas my entire life.

So, it is your contention... that if you are a "Redneck" you are a racist?

Wow.

dude1394 · 01-25-2005, 01:56 PM

Ergo...the that's why reeds is a bigot.

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big·ot n.

One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.

FreshJive · 01-25-2005, 03:03 PM

So Reeds your more suspicious of gun racks and pickup trucks than someone who has been a member of the KKK? unreal.

reeds · 01-25-2005, 06:27 PM

"You are so ignorant about that reeds. I can't remember the last time I heard that most ugly of English language words.. and I've lived in Texas my entire life."

So U2, you are basically calling texas the WHOLE ENTIRE SOUTH?? That is what it sounds like to me...Travel to Mississippi, Florida, Alabama, South Carolina, Georgia, Florida...visit redneck country in each of those states, and then tell me the same story..you cant..I have been to each, and the rednecks down there are big time racists...Texas is not its own country u2...I really beleive some on this board beleive it it- but its really not..

"So, it is your contention... that if you are a "Redneck" you are a racist?"

Not all, but most!! Most will not come out and admit it if asked, but actions speak much lounder than words...

vinnieponte · 01-25-2005, 06:33 PM

mullets, trailers, confederate stickers, and ofcourse the highest child abuse rate...welcome to Texas [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

u2sarajevo · 01-25-2005, 06:41 PM

No reeds, I'm not calling Texas the entire South. However I have lived in the south my entire life. I have been to all parts of the South. And, sadly, your view of it is slanted and prejudiced unfairly.

And that is sad.

dude1394 · 01-25-2005, 06:42 PM

It's called bigotry. Sort of akin to racism.

Rhylan · 01-25-2005, 07:02 PM

I love it when our open-minded, liberal, progressive friends are the ones who make the most broad generalizations about people.

dude1394 · 01-25-2005, 09:10 PM

A little more about KKKByrd.. The Democratic Leader in the senate.

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Well let us look into Senator KKK's roots:

Byrd was a local leader of the Ku Klux Klan for a period of time in the early 1940s, holding the title Kleagle; Klan recruiter. In a 1946 letter, he wrote, "The Klan is needed today as never before and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia." However, when running for Congress in 1952, he announced, "After about a year, I became disinterested, quit paying my dues, and dropped my membership in the organization. During the nine years that have followed, I have never been interested in the Klan." Still, in 1964 he opposed the Civil Rights Act.

Senator Byrd quit the Klan in the 1940s and has renounced it since. On the other hand, his history is worth revisiting, since it's something Democrats have been willing to tolerate, despite Lott-like remarks that would have ended a Republican's career. Only last year Mr. Byrd told Fox News that "there are white niggers. I've seen a lot of white niggers in my time, if you want to use that word. But we all--we all--we just need to work together to make our country a better country and I--I'd just as soon quit talking about it so much."

Mr. Byrd quickly apologized, but he wasn't denounced by Democrats, much less by the Clintons. Nor did the press corps use the opportunity to wallow in other Byrd racial lowlights, such as the 14 hours and 13 minutes he spent in an unsuccessful filibuster during the debate over the 1964 civil rights act, which he voted against along with 20 other Senate Democrats. The political press also didn't dredge up his votes against both Thurgood Marshall and Clarence Thomas, votes that made him the only Senator to have opposed the only two black Supreme Court nominees in U.S. history.

Epitome22 · 01-26-2005, 06:45 AM

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Originally posted by: dude1394
The democrats are back to their bigoted ways.

kkk byrd speaks for the dems

Now Reid has moved his chess pieces again, allowing ex-Klansman Robert Byrd, of all people, to hold up the confirmation of the first black woman to serve as Secretary of State. Byrd claims that the nomination needs further debate (sheets optional), but that's traditionally what the confirmation hearings are intended to provide. A 16-2 endorsement hardly requires further debate. It's political grandstanding of the most pathetic nature, since Rice's confirmation is assured regardless, and most Democrats will probably vote for her.

Cons highlighting the fact that 'one' of the people objecting to Rice's appointment is an ex-Klansman, therefore the motivation behind the objections. It's now complete. Republicans have now completely co-opted the repugnant liberal debating tactics they used to decry years ago. How the mighty have fallen.

For whatever it's worth, Robert Byrd (Senator from that great bastion of social liberalism West Virginia) is not a matter of pride for me or any other Democrat for that matter. He should have had the decency to do what all former racist anti-black dixiecrats do and join the Republican party like Strom Thurmond.

Epitome22 · 01-26-2005, 06:57 AM

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Originally posted by: Rhylan
If a former KKK member who was a REPUBLICAN blocked confirmation of a black cabinet member or judge, it would be the lead story in every major news outlet.

*yawn* hardly,. You can see what the terrible prospect of media backlash did the careers of racist demagogues (and republicans) like Jesse Helms and Strom Thurmond, who's legislative careers weren't exactly brief. As long as they had the support of their racist conservative base, they had little to worry about.

Epitome22 · 01-26-2005, 07:04 AM

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Originally posted by: dude1394
Maybe KKKByrd is just parrotting these "librules". Dems better be careful you can just subject so many prominent african-americans before the truth begins to sink in that maybe, just maybe, the leftists aren't nearly as interested in helping them become independent as they are of getting their votes.

*yawn* If they were just interested in getting their votes, they would tow a softer line with Rice who is black and has a degree of black support. A non-starter of an argument.

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NAACP president Kweisi Mfume said people who make such remarks "are just as bad as those who hide under sheets and burn crosses." Mfume said Rice is "an example of how far hard work, education and determination can take one to new heights."

LOL, Now the republicans are even highlighting racial hucksters like Kwesi Mfume, who'm they used to derride (and rightly so) to further their warped agenda. Are they really that transparent? Republicans have become the new sacred bearers of identity politics.

Epitome22 · 01-26-2005, 07:42 AM

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Originally posted by: dude1394
How many grand imperial wizards of the KKK are in the republican party?

How many former segregationists and racists who made life long pledges to keep negroes from drinking from white drinking fountains defected to the Republican party where they were warmly embraced (do you really want to know?)

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I know which party was instrumental in passing the civil rights legislation.

Me too. Isn't it great? From when Harry Truman signed te executive order in 1948 to forcibly integrate the armed forces, or Attourney General RFK bringing fourth over 50 lawsuits in response to violations of black voting rights, Lyndon Johnson signing the civil rights acts of 1964 and 1968 and the voting rights act of 1965.

Of course, it is a bittersweet victory because by championing civil rights, the Democrats lost much of the racist south, but never fear! The Republicans and their southern strategy were more than willing to appease the racist sentiments of a South angry about blacks being equal to them, driving them into the arms of the Republican party. It makes perfect sense that Strom Thurmond, the man responsible for the longest filibuster in history (against te civil rights act) and Jesse Helms, who's campaign was convicted of violating the voting rights act and referred to the University of North Carolina as 'The University of Niggers and Comunists" would find their homes in GOP arms.

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I know which party was responsible for the emancipation proclamation

Yes, at least we can concentrate on the GOP glory years, when they had a soul. They actually enforced 2-3 key pieces of legislation. Of course when iot came between championing equal rights for blacks and furthering their own corrupt agenda, they chose the latter by participating in the compromise of 1877, ceding the south to segregationist control in exchange for political support (hey kinda like the southern strategy of nearly a hundred years later) oh the mighty and principled GOP!. The Republicans haven't been behind any major civil rights legislation in 2 centuries. They went from the party of the emancipation proclamation, to the party of men (Ronald Reagan and Barry Goldwater in particular) who actually opposed the Civil rights movement and the party that objected to making MLKs birthday a national holiday. What a shameful legacy.

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I know which party believes that a person should be judged by their merit and not the color of their skid or their sex.

Since you don't know much about the Democratic party, than I don't think you do. Nor do you know much about your own party which can better be described as "If you don't make it or are disadvantaged, it's completely your own doing and nothing to do with your race or gender"

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I know which party believes that all people can succeed and don't need a handout but a handup..

LOL, the 'handup, not a handout' was coined and supported by the Democrats dummy, primarily Al From and Bruce Reed of the DLC. The GOP, immediatly upon hearing it, denounced it as Third Way socialist rhetoric. The GOP doesen't believe in 'handups', at least so long as the governent provides it. Sorry, no score.

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I know which party is full of intellectual snobs and religious bigots who believe they know best for the "people". That the "people" aren't competent enough to spend their own money, manage their own lives or make the choices needed for their families. .

Hey, I guess you know the GOP afterall.