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Old 05-19-2002, 08:53 PM   #1
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<< Improving Mavs is an inside job
By DWAIN PRICE
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DALLAS - Even for one of the greatest teams and greatest players of all time, it was a process.

It took Michael Jordan seven years before he won the first of his six NBA titles. Year by year, the Chicago Bulls continued tinkering with Jordan's supporting cast until they finally got the championship unit that clicked.


That's the situation facing the Mavericks today. Michael Finley, Steve Nash and Dirk Nowitzki represent the team's core - they've been together for four seasons - while the supporting cast has resembled a revolving door. At some point, Mavs management has to stop bringing in offensive weapons and start pursuing one or two interior defensive stalwarts, and then let the group spend an entire season or two together. When that happens, the Mavs will finally get the NBA title they're seeking.


&quot;We've gone through so many transitions in 26 to 28 months,&quot; Mavs owner Mark Cuban said. &quot;You can't underemphasize that there's a difference between playing 80 games together, plus a training camp, against playing 40 [games].&quot;


Amen, brother.


Just when Finley, Nash and Nowitzki learned to play with Juwan Howard and Tim Hardaway, out went Howard and Hardaway and in came Raef LaFrentz and Nick Van Exel. LaFrentz and Van Exel must stay for an entire training camp and 82-game season - unless they're traded for a big-time inside body - or else this time next year the Mavericks will be looking at their third consecutive exit in the second round of the playoffs.


&quot;We still have growing to do; it's not that we ever thought that our job was done,&quot; Mavs coach Don Nelson said. &quot;This is just really beginning.


&quot;It's easier now as you can add a piece here and there and you already have a really good nucleus to build on. But it's not a quick fix when you get to playoff basketball. It takes a lot of getting bumped around, bruised and fighting your way through as a team, getting better and adding a piece.&quot;


Maybe the Mavs should revisit the idea of acquiring Utah's Karl Malone. Or, maybe Cuban should call Portland owner Paul Allen and see if the Mavs can acquire Dale Davis, another Cuban favorite who drew a fine and a suspension this season for clocking Shawn Bradley.


Whatever the case, in order to advance further, the Mavs need someone with a mean streak. Someone who carries a constant chip on his shoulder, and can rebound, block shots and play down-in-the-trenches defense.


Otherwise, this franchise will be stuck winning 50 to 60 games and, when it's time to play the big boys, won't have another gear to shift to. Certainly not a defensive gear.


&quot;I think we wouldn't mind having another low-post person, defensively and offensively,&quot; Nowitzki said. &quot;Hopefully, I can work on my inside game this summer and be dominant down there.&quot;


The Mavs should be commended for setting a franchise record with 57 victories this season and for leading the league with a franchise-record 27 road victories. They also deserve kudos for leading the NBA in scoring (105.2) and free-throw accuracy (80.6 percent).


But poor rebounding and horrific defense was this team's undoing in the second-round elimination by Sacramento. In five games against the Kings, Sacramento made 207 field goals, and an amazing 115 of them were either layups or dunks.


That's like a bank manager opening up the vault and hanging a sign that says: &quot;Gone to lunch. Take what you want.&quot;


&quot;Overall, we're disappointed, but there were definitely a lot of successes throughout the year and things to remember,&quot; Nash said. &quot;Last year, we clawed our way out of the first round.


&quot;This year we breezed through the first round and were a few possessions away from still playing. We're a much better team, and, hopefully, we'll be a much better team next year.&quot;


The draft isn't an option for the Mavs. There doesn't appear to be a player in it who can help this team take the next steps, and the Mavs don't have a pick until the second round, the 55th overall selection. They traded their first-round pick to Denver in the deal involving Van Exel and LaFrentz.


Still, Mavs fans must remember that winning an NBA title is an ongoing process. They also must remember that just two years ago, the Mavs completed their 10th consecutive losing season.


&quot;The quick turnaround this organization's made is amazing,&quot; LaFrentz said. &quot;It's been remarkable, considering a few years back they were one of the worst teams in the Western Conference.


&quot;Now, we're seriously talking about title contention. That's exciting. This is a good place to be. We have a young team and a good solid nucleus. The Dallas Mavericks will be there next year, the year after and the year after that.&quot;


Cuban and Nelson must put their heads together and discover a way to obtain a banger.


&quot;There's no question that we'll be one of the elite teams in the league going into next year,&quot; Cuban said. &quot;Now, we just have to produce.&quot;


And remember Jordan and the Bulls.
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I like the view... and while we have been successful we still have to get familiarity with the players playing with each other.



<< Otherwise, this franchise will be stuck winning 50 to 60 games and, when it's time to play the big boys, won't have another gear to shift to. Certainly not a defensive gear.

&quot;I think we wouldn't mind having another low-post person, defensively and offensively,&quot; Nowitzki said. &quot;Hopefully, I can work on my inside game this summer and be dominant down there.&quot;
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The first part is indicative of **all** Don Nelson teams. Grat numbers in the regular season but not doing anything in the postseason. But even with Nellie as coach the quote by Dirk gives me more optimism than anything. Nellie has **never** had a player the caliber and size of Dirk. I do not doubt that Dirk will one day be a low post nightmare for the opposition. And if he improves his low post positioning defensively we could be in good shape.




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Old 05-19-2002, 11:12 PM   #2
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I agree with the article. We need someone who is dirty. Chicago had Dennis Rodman, The Celtics had Kevin McHale, the Flakers have a variety of people who can step up. Dallas needs, hell, bring Kenyon Martin home. I like his style.

Just kidding on that fact, even though I do like him. But, Dallas does need a Lambier style of player. Someone who will bang, rebound, block shots, and isn't afraid to look stupid on a team filled with pretty boys.
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Old 05-20-2002, 01:06 AM   #3
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I want a Robert Horry on our team.
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Old 05-20-2002, 10:27 PM   #4
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Is he a free agent, but I think Hory has only about a couple of years left in his tank, but he could teach Dirk the trick of the playoffs.
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Hory is a classy guy he will be perfect fit for the Mavs

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No Place Like Home
Robert Horry's heart is with his family in Houston, where his stricken young daughter brings aches and joy.


By TIM BROWN, Times Staff Writer
HOUSTON -- The parking lot at the Pediatric Therapy Center in southwest Houston is full, drive-around-the-lot-looking-for-a-space full, like the mall at Christmas time.

The PTC does a brisk business in all seasons.

The children, even the older ones, hold tight to their mothers' hands without embarrassment. When they leave the shade of the lot, many involuntarily lift their faces to the sun, which is warming in the late morning, headed to nearly 90, with a light breeze.

For all of the pictures of animals on the walls and the cartoons on the televisions, for all the smiles and encouragement from the therapists and doctors, this place is hard work for the children who walk in, or are carried in.

Ashlyn Horry used to sit in the back seat of her mother's car and refuse to get out. Then she would start to cry, and so would her mother, and there they'd be, Keva Horry pleading, Ashlyn Horry refusing, while other mothers in other minivans stopped behind them and wondered if they were coming or going.

Those were the moments when Keva Horry wondered too.

&quot;This is life,&quot; she said without regret. &quot;I'm dealing with it.&quot;
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Ashlyn is 8. Her father, Robert, plays power forward for the Lakers. On Monday night, Robert had 20 rebounds in Sacramento, where the Lakers lost Game 2 of the Western Conference finals.

On Tuesday afternoon, Ashlyn is standing frightfully near the top of a four-rung ladder. A physical therapist holds her around the waist, and while the ladder teeters, she hands her a stuffed ball. With help, Ashlyn pushes the ball with two hands over the front of a plastic yellow hoop, and the ball falls through, lands on a blue mat and rolls across the floor.

&quot;She scores!&quot; the therapist cries. &quot;Yeah!&quot;

Across the room, Keva Horry claps. Ashlyn throws back her head and smiles. Her eyes joyously turn to slits and her arms and legs go stiff. When she opens her eyes, Ashlyn finds her mother.

Keva picks up the blue ball and rolls it back, her first rebound of the afternoon.

&quot;There's a pride now because I'm seeing things the doctors didn't expect her to do,&quot; Keva says. &quot;That gives me hope.&quot;

As the Horrys understand it, Ashlyn, their first child, was born without part of her first chromosome. They've never asked for the name of what she has, because it has never seemed important. She cannot yet speak or walk or eat, and there is no guarantee she ever will.

&quot;One doctor told me it's a freak of nature,&quot; Keva said.

Ashlyn spent her first six months in the hospital, and she has been back often.

She can cover ground with the help of a four-wheeled walker, but it's a dicey transport without brakes. She leans forward and the walker rolls and suddenly she's nearly at a full run down the sidewalk, sending her parents after her with a mix of amusement and terror.

Ashlyn eats mostly through a tube in her stomach. An IV stand sits in a corner of her lavender-colored bedroom on the first floor of the family's home, beside her bed.

For three years she had a tracheotomy, allowing her to breath. Complications arose, as they often did then, and Ashlyn had her epiglottis—the flap that covers the windpipe during swallowing—removed, making eating a challenge.

Half of Tuesday's two-hour therapy session at PTC was spent in a tiny back room, where a kind woman named Judy Boshart dabbed baby food from a Dixie cup to Ashlyn's lips.

When Ashlyn swallowed or simply tried, she would get as reward a song or two from a nearby tape recorder, and Miss Judy would call her &quot;Sugar Bear&quot; or &quot;Boo&quot; and blow soapy bubbles and ask Ashlyn to pop them. So, Ashlyn sat in a wooden chair, vanilla pudding on her lips, jerking her head away from a plastic spoon, listening to Barney sing, &quot;Do You Know the Muffin Man?&quot;

Boshart pulled her face close to Ashlyn's, and rested her own cheek on the top of the little girl's head as Keva looked on.&quot;Ashlyn's a people person,&quot; she says. &quot;She loves people. They don't always understand. But she doesn't care.&quot;

Boshart understands, and Ashlyn seems to know that. Boshart called Ashlyn's ailment &quot;a neurological syndrome that mimics cerebral palsy&quot; in some regards.

The prognosis, she said, &quot;Guarded. Somewhat guarded. It's been so touch and go with this baby. She was so sick.&quot;


The little girl might never become what others are.

That's OK.

Others become what she is, joyfully.

Keva Horry sat in her television room Tuesday afternoon as workers, with ladders and extension cords over their shoulders, continue to plod through the two-story Mediterranean-style home in Houston's posh West Chase neighborhood.

There are peacocks in the yard.

&quot;Not ours,&quot; Keva says. &quot;They belong to the community.&quot;

Apparently, they like the Horry's place best. Robert and Keva had it built, and have been in it for about a year. The home is stunning, even set against the other grand and gated homes on the same leafy street.

On the television, turned to the channel that brings up nine security cameras in the house, Camron, 3, plays with a babysitter in segment four. Palm trees wave in the front yard in segment five. Ashlyn, exhausted from her therapy, sleeps in segment one. She often falls asleep on the way home.

The room is quiet and bright. Floor-to-ceiling windows frame a large backyard, which has a pool, a wooden jungle gym, a basketball court and a pool house. When Ashlyn and Camron play in the yard, Keva sometimes will stand in this room, behind those windows, and marvel at what her little girl has become, the ability she has to change people.

&quot;She just kind of brings everybody to her level,&quot; Keva says. &quot;Like, 'Hello, this is what it's really all about—happiness.'&quot;

Keva is pretty in a Jasmine Guy, Southern-girl way. She's like Robert in that she is easy to smile in the light moments and quick to shrug in the difficult ones. She cries some, such as when Robert leaves Houston for Los Angeles for his NBA season. She met Robert when both were attending Alabama. She grew up in Tuscaloosa, Robert in nearby Andalusia, and they share the same subtle drawls.

Keva had never seen someone so tall and thin, nor met someone as easygoing. She dated the high-profile athlete—despite her better judgment, she said—and five years ago they wed, three years after Ashlyn was born, two years before Camron, a normal child in every way, was born.

At that moment, Camron walked into the room, held up a new pair of Nike sneakers and said, &quot;Like Ko-mee Biant!&quot;, Kobe Bryant being his second-favorite Laker. He is his father in miniature, complete with the big eyes and high, hollow cheeks. He attends a preschool that feels like Disneyland's Main Street.

Robert isn't around much during basketball season. The Lakers get to Houston twice a year and the family comes to Los Angeles occasionally, to a home in Marina del Rey. Moving the family to Los Angeles isn't an option. It's too vast, Keva says. The Horrys made their home here when Robert was with the Rockets. And moving would mean leaving the therapy center where Ashlyn has been going since she was 2. There are pictures of him all over the house, and he calls several times a day, Tuesday telling Keva on her cell phone as she drove home from physical therapy, &quot;I wish I was there with you.&quot; She said, &quot;I wish you were here too.&quot;

&quot;This is Robert's favorite room,&quot; Keva said, swinging open the door just off the TV room. &quot;I'm not allowed in here, so don't tell him I showed you.&quot;

She laughed and dragged a hand across a black velvet-lined pool table. There are half a dozen video games against one wall, a wet bar in the corner, and a movie theater through a side door. Framed NBA jerseys are leaning against a wall, waiting to be mounted.

She thinks about him often.

&quot;It's like when you're first starting to date somebody all over again,&quot; she said. &quot;I still get the butterflies. I do. I get nervous, like, 'Do I look OK?' Really. I still cry when he gets on a plane, when I drop him off for the season at the airport, I'm boo-hooing all the way home. It's been going on for so long now. If it stops, I'll start to worry.

&quot;It gets very lonely. My children are my life. And I miss my husband. I love him dearly and I am extremely proud of him. I want him to be happy.&quot;
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The truth is, there are times when Robert Horry feels badly for Ashlyn.

He admires her courage and loves her determination, but those things won't allow her to chase her little brother, or catch fireflies in a jar. When her tiny cousins race each other into the backyard for one of the swings, Ashlyn sometimes sits nearby, staring.

&quot;There are bad days, like on the Fourth of July, when we have my brother's kids and her sister's kids,&quot; Robert said after practice Wednesday in El Segundo. &quot;They're like kids, running around. You can tell she wants to do what they're doing, but can't. Those are the days I feel bad for her.&quot;

It doesn't last too long, because the doorbell always rings again.

&quot;Everybody who knows her, they love Ashlyn like she's their child,&quot; he said. &quot;When people come over, they're like, 'Where's my baby? Where's Ashlyn?' They get on the floor with her and hug and kiss on her as much as she can stand.&quot;

Keva is not sure about the bad days.&quot;She's happy all the time,&quot; she said. &quot;She doesn't know any different. That's great, and it's a peace for me. This is all she knows. She's happy, and I want to keep it that way.&quot;
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The sun has passed over the top of the house, and shadows have fallen on the living room couch, where Keva reads a children's book to Ashlyn and Camron. Though he has been forbidden to eat a cookie so near suppertime, Camron returns from the kitchen with crumbs stuck to his mouth, which Keva instantly notices.

Ashlyn is blissful beside her mother, listening to her voice and staring sweetly at the pages. She tries to hug her brother, who pushes her away.

Unbowed, Ashlyn pulls him closer. He groans and Keva laughs and kisses Ashlyn.

It is life. And they are dealing with it.

&quot;I don't know what the reason is just yet,&quot; Keva said. &quot;I do on a daily basis try to figure it out. It's not a 'Why me?' thing anymore. It used to be. It was very hurtful for the first year. I know her little life has a purpose. She has a destiny like everybody else. Maybe she's here for me. Maybe it's for Robert. Maybe that's it.

&quot;The thing is, I never felt like the weight of the world was on me. You just do it. Before I knew it, we were here.&quot;

It's not a bad place. Ashlyn brings them little hardships and she brings them huge joy. Maybe she doesn't know it, but they're sure she does. They choose to believe she does.

&quot;She kind of does that on a daily basis,&quot; Keva said. &quot;Milestones. The little accomplishments that, for her, are huge. It happens every day.&quot;
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Old 05-23-2002, 01:31 PM   #6
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I was amazed at how much Dirk's rebounding improved this season from last season. Give the guy time, and he will be so awesome. Hell, he's already a super-star. I am looking forward to what he brings with him next season. I know he'll improve some part of his game each and every year. Watch out!!! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

Also, I hate Malone, and I hope we never aquire him.
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Yea Fish, Horry could teach Dirk how to get 4 straight games with over 30 points and 15 rebounds, tying kareem for the record in the plyoffs...... wait, Dirk just did that!
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Or he could teach Dirk playoff defense. Which would be very useful.
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Dirk will improve defensively but he won't be the answer to what the Mavs need on the inside defensively next year. The GM and owner must address this issue.
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