10-26-2008, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by chumdawg
I'm not really sure what you are asking. I would guess that you are going to make a well educated vote, based on what I know about you.
It does still remain true, though, that the Republican party relies on uneducated people for their votes. Of course, it isn't going to be near enough in this election, and the Republicans will have to change their strategy going forward, but for now it is what it is. If you are dumb and backwards, you certainly vote Republican.
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What about all the inner city poor that are voting Democrat for the bigger hand out? I mean if you're going to generalize and stereotype let's do it equally for both sides.
I look forward to the next Republican favored election when you'll flip back to the right.
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10-26-2008, 06:53 PM
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So dumb hicks vote republican...intelligent folks vote democrat...the resident bigot speaks.
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10-26-2008, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by dude1394
So dumb hicks vote republican...intelligent folks vote democrat...the resident bigot speaks.
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so you're anti-generalizations? really?
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10-26-2008, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jthig32
What about all the inner city poor that are voting Democrat for the bigger hand out?
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I'm not entirely sure the so-called "inner-city poor" vote for Democrats because of the "bigger handout." Actually, I've yet to see any statistical data show "bigger handouts" to be a reason anyone votes for anybody.
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10-26-2008, 07:01 PM
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I'm not entirely sure the so-called "inner-city poor" vote for Democrats because of the "bigger handout." Actually, I've yet to see any statistical data show "bigger handouts" to be a reason anyone votes for anybody.
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You are out of your mind if you don't think millions of people are voting for Obama because they're going to get a bigger tax break. Which for people barely (or not at all) paying income tax, that's a handout.
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10-26-2008, 07:09 PM
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Why would obama be all over the airwaves with his tax cut to YOU if he didn't think it was enticing.
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10-26-2008, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by jthig32
You are out of your mind if you don't think millions of people are voting for Obama because they're going to get a bigger tax break. Which for people barely (or not at all) paying income tax, that's a handout.
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I'm sure people are going to vote for Obama because they'd prefer a greater tax break, but that isn't what you said. You made the generalization that individuals from urban areas vote for Democrats because they want handouts. And all I was saying was that I've never seen any statistical evidence showing that trend.
I've seen data that shows a huge bloc of African-Americans and even a significant percentage of Latinos favoring Democrats since the civil rights movement of the 1960's and the separation of the Dixiecrats from the modern Democratic party, but that trend corresponds to both affluent and less affluent voters, so it doesn't really apply to your "inner-city" theory. It's more of a sign of racial identification, rather than class identification.
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10-27-2008, 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Burn this City
I'm sure people are going to vote for Obama because they'd prefer a greater tax break, but that isn't what you said. You made the generalization that individuals from urban areas vote for Democrats because they want handouts. And all I was saying was that I've never seen any statistical evidence showing that trend.
I've seen data that shows a huge bloc of African-Americans and even a significant percentage of Latinos favoring Democrats since the civil rights movement of the 1960's and the separation of the Dixiecrats from the modern Democratic party, but that trend corresponds to both affluent and less affluent voters, so it doesn't really apply to your "inner-city" theory. It's more of a sign of racial identification, rather than class identification.
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Thanks for that post, because if I had did it they would have accused me of race baiting. Our boardhas become exactly what we see in the media. I have seen the worst in several posters here. It is sad, then to think there are a couple of posters who claim there is not anything racist said on this message board. If you point it out, they say you race bait. If you fight back, they call you the village idiot. Next, we will see the spin to say that post was not borderline racist. I was wondering if we would see another co-signer to agree with his post, and you guessed it, we got it from another I have called racist.
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10-27-2008, 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Silk Smoov
Thanks for that post, because if I had did it they would have accused me of race baiting. Our boardhas become exactly what we see in the media. I have seen the worst in several posters here. It is sad, then to think there are a couple of posters who claim there is not anything racist said on this message board. If you point it out, they say you race bait. If you fight back, they call you the village idiot. Next, we will see the spin to say that post was not borderline racist.
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It just bothers me when people make the assumption that poor people just want handouts. Greedy people want handouts - whether they're rich, poor, or middle class, it doesn't matter...
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10-27-2008, 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Burn this City
It just bothers me when people make the assumption that poor people just want handouts. Greedy people want handouts - whether they're rich, poor, or middle class, it doesn't matter...
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I agree 100%, I will take a hand-out in a minute if you give it to me. I will also seek out hook-ups on big ticket items I want as well. So, I consider that a hand-out as well. LOL
Another example of rich and greedy people wanting hand-outs is to support the McCain tax cuts. Prime example of what you said. It is just a shame that we have posters here who have sunken so low since Obama won the Democrat ticket.. Sad, sad, sad.
Oh, lets be careful now, because something will tell us we owe them an explanation for our statement.
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10-27-2008, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Silk Smoov
Thanks for that post, because if I had did it they would have accused me of race baiting. Our boardhas become exactly what we see in the media. I have seen the worst in several posters here. It is sad, then to think there are a couple of posters who claim there is not anything racist said on this message board. If you point it out, they say you race bait. If you fight back, they call you the village idiot. Next, we will see the spin to say that post was not borderline racist. I was wondering if we would see another co-signer to agree with his post, and you guessed it, we got it from another I have called racist.
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Silk, perhaps we can come to a truce.
Let's agree to not discuss ANYTHING that has the Race as it refers to ones cultural heritage ever again.
I am certain that neither you nor I are racist. However for some reasons the words you and I use to communicate on this discussion board are easily perceived as racist.
I am certain you and I can both agree that there is no one race that is superior to another. I am certain that you and I can both agree that there are people in all races who are racist towards others. I am certain we can agree that these individuals do not represent that race in any way, they are simply portraying their own ignorance of the human race.
We can agree that we disagree in regards to which politicians we support based on the individual views of the specific candidates. Both of us show our ignorance when we point to race as an issue. After all both tickets have more than enough differences in issues to provide adequate discussion points as to why we support one over the other without having to pull the race card.
If a McCain supporter pulls out the race card then their is a major weakness in the reasons to support McCain.
If an Obama supporter pulls out the race card then their is a major weakness in the reasons to support Obama.
Truth be known...I would love to see them all fired and start a new round with new candidates. But that is yet another topic for another day.
So what do you say...can we agree to not bring up or respond to any 'Race' discussions on this board, but rather stick to issues that are genuine to the campaign and direction of America?
By the way, there is no special code, no hidden agenda, no secret words to represent some conspiracy to manipulate a race discussion. I'm from the school that a word mean what it means, I don't use secondary meanings to words when in a genuine discussion...so any perception that what I write means something else, is flat out wrong.
So again, can you and I lead the way on this board and NOT discuss the race topic? I'm reaching across the aisle, to you, one who claims to have supported Republicans in the past...so you and I, who disagree on many things...but I'm willing to bet agree on much more...I'm reaching across the aisle to you...can we be united as Americans, regardless of who we vote for?
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10-26-2008, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by jthig32
What about all the inner city poor that are voting Democrat for the bigger hand out? I mean if you're going to generalize and stereotype let's do it equally for both sides.
I look forward to the next Republican favored election when you'll flip back to the right.
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What, is that a big voting bloc?
You know what's a big voting bloc? White people. That's a big voing bloc. White people like me.
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10-26-2008, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by chumdawg
What, is that a big voting bloc?
You know what's a big voting bloc? White people. That's a big voing bloc. White people like me.
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Inner city poor excludes white people?
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10-26-2008, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jthig32
Inner city poor excludes white people?
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I don't see many white people in South Central Los Angeles.
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10-26-2008, 08:20 PM
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Inner city poor excludes white people?
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Yes, for the most part.
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10-27-2008, 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by jthig32
What about all the inner city poor that are voting Democrat for the bigger hand out? I mean if you're going to generalize and stereotype let's do it equally for both sides.
I look forward to the next Republican favored election when you'll flip back to the right.
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I'll have what he's having.
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