11-12-2008, 10:26 AM
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Mavs/Clippers Trade
Dalmation gets credit for this proposal as he originally posted it in another thread but I thought it was interesting enough to warrant its own.
Clippers Get:
Erick Dampier
Josh Howard
Dallas Gets:
Chris Kaman
Cuttino Mobley
I'd also like to mention a possibility of getting DeAndre Jordan in that deal but probably wouldn't let it be a deal breaker if it couldn't be arranged. He hasn't received hardly any playing timer there and reports are they they're considering pushing him into the D-League.
Mavs get the offensive center they've really needed in Kaman albeit at the expense of Damp who played a VERY good game against the Lakers last night. Still, Kaman is a 26 year old 7 footer who can shoot rebound and defend. Furthermore he is obviously good friends with Dirk and has developed a strong relationship with him on the German national team. We also get another serviceable two in Cuttino who can probably start for this team.
The Clips, who have been rumored to be shopping Kaman get an All-Star talent along with a serviceable big man. This gives them depth and versatility in their starting lineup.
Dallas Lineup:
Kaman / Diop
Dirk / Bass
Green / Stack / Williams
Mobley / Wright
Kidd / Terry
Clippers Lineup
Damp / B.Skinner
Camby / T.Thomas
Thorton / R.Davis
Howard / Gordon
B.Davis
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11-12-2008, 11:19 AM
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i think this trade is good~ i like it
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11-12-2008, 11:34 AM
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If Horse is sold, then I'm sold...
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11-12-2008, 11:45 AM
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My biggest question, is "would Cuttino be this Mavs version of NVE".
Would he be that F'em attitude guy that they could rally around?
The Mavs seem to have the talent -- just not the head/heart/fire/whatever you want to call it to be an elite team this year.
If Kaman provided the inside offensive presence, and Cuttino provided the F'em attitude -- and mgmt agrees that Green could take JHo spot at at least 80% of what JHo does -- then I am all for this trade.
If the Clipps were just wanting to cut some salary -- I'd also consider Howard/Stack for Mobley/Kaman. Now the Clipps wouldn't be the Clipps if this weren't an actual possibility. They get the All-Star in Howard, and the cost savings in Stack, while ridding themselves of Mobley's contract (which isn't that good) and letting Kaman go.
I have no idea, but I do think that the Mavs should be inquiring. Lets say the Clipps wanted the cash savings:
Kidd, Terry, JJB
Mobley, Wright
Green, George, Williams
Dirk, Bass
Kaman, Damp, Diop
Now they are better at strengthening up the frontline. Let them figure out how to sign McDyess as well, and they would be set, IMO.
Then see if Williams can play backup SF, and if he can, and you don't need George, then let George be traded for a backup PG (there are several out there).
IMO, fixing the frontline is the first project though.
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11-12-2008, 11:53 AM
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The latest reports have Dunleavy denying they're interested in trading Kaman. Supposedly Charlotte inquired about Kaman and were rejected.
I'm assuming they were probably offering Gerald Wallace. I still think this potential offer would be more enticing for them to consider but not I'm not sure how serious they are about trading Kaman.
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11-12-2008, 11:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dalmations202
If Kaman provided the inside offensive presence, and Cuttino provided the F'em attitude -- and mgmt agrees that Green could take JHo spot at at least 80% of what JHo does -- then I am all for this trade.
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Those are some big if's, but I'll takes "if's" over what we're looking at right now...
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11-12-2008, 01:01 PM
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Overating GG in this forum has become comon. With him in your starting five, and playing heavy minutes your team is doomed to lose alot. No defense.
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11-12-2008, 01:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by belgianfan
Overating GG in this forum has become comon. With him in your starting five, and playing heavy minutes your team is doomed to lose alot. No defense.
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I disagree. To me it looks like he can play pretty good defense and also seems like he has the knack for rebounding as well. I don't think anyone is suggesting he'll step right in and be an all-star but there's no denying that the potential to be very good on both ends of the court is definitely there.
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11-12-2008, 09:49 PM
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Seems like alot to give up somehow. Howard and Damp. And they like Al Thornton. Don't think they'd want G.Wallace and his contract. At least Damp expires after next season. If they want a salary dump, that is. Being the Clips- I'm sure they do. Kaman would be a great pick-up and i hope this can somehow be worked out. A legit post presence!
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