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Old 12-25-2008, 11:20 PM   #1
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Take a drive through town and notice the biggest and shiniest buildings.

A word of advice that stuck with me is this: Vegas didn't get built because some grandma knew a way to beat the slot machines.

Churches are doing okay. The homeless, not so much.
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Take a drive through town and notice the biggest and shiniest buildings.

A word of advice that stuck with me is this: Vegas didn't get built because some grandma knew a way to beat the slot machines.

Churches are doing okay. The homeless, not so much.
dance and dodge. dance and dodge. no wonder you like Obama.

Fact is that the homeless would be a lot worse off without the tireless efforts of faith based groups like the Salvation Army and Catholic Charities and hundreds (maybe thousands) of others.
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dance and dodge. dance and dodge. no wonder you like Obama.

Fact is that the homeless would be a lot worse off without the tireless efforts of faith based groups like the Salvation Army and Catholic Charities and hundreds (maybe thousands) of others.
I have volunteered at two homeless shelters in Dallas (does that count in the survey as giving to charity?) and I can tell you that neither the Salvation Army nor the Catholic Charities were there. In fact, I can tell you that no "faith based" organizations of any kind were there. These were "halfway houses," where guys were trying to make their way back into society after serving terms as felons in the state penitentiary.

No Salvation Army, no Jesus Church...just liberals like me.

Have you spent time with people like that? We should send our data to that jackass who wrote the story, so that he can be better informed.
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Old 12-25-2008, 11:37 PM   #4
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I have volunteered at two homeless shelters in Dallas (does that count in the survey as giving to charity?) and I can tell you that neither the Salvation Army nor the Catholic Charities were there. In fact, I can tell you that no "faith based" organizations of any kind were there. These were "halfway houses," where guys were trying to make their way back into society after serving terms as felons in the state penitentiary.

No Salvation Army, no Jesus Church...just liberals like me.

Have you spent time with people like that? We should send our data to that jackass who wrote the story, so that he can be better informed.
Yes. I have spent a lot of time in places like that. I was a minister before I went to college.

Yes, there are non church associated government run half way houses. There are also 'for profit' structures in that business.

But, there are also Salvation Army and Catholics Charity half way homes. You just volunteered at one that was not church associated.

Doesn't change any of the conversation as to its facts regarding the value of church based charity efforts and the definition of a charitable entity.
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