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Dtownsfinest · 02-05-2023, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rimrocker

Exactly, and I don't see how anyone would think it would be different.
Leopards don't change their spots.

Rodman did?for a little bit anyway?..

Amarelooms · 02-05-2023, 09:12 PM

Do we have any his rights? For sign n trade off-season - hopefully can sign and trade him. Get woods sign max offer or trade him asap. Can?t lose wood for noting.

JustJay · 02-05-2023, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Amarelooms

Do we have any his rights? For sign n trade off-season - hopefully can sign and trade him. Get woods sign max offer or trade him asap. Can?t lose wood for noting.

Full bird.

I said with Wood get extension by deadline or trade him.

DevinHarriswillstart · 02-05-2023, 09:33 PM

It's also being reported that the Clippers and Lakers had strong offers and we beat them. That is a huge win alone.

JustJay · 02-05-2023, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

It's also being reported that the Clippers and Lakers had strong offers and we beat them. That is a huge win alone.

Shams report, Suns fans on twitter are butthurt that Nets did it for only one first rounder vs. their poopoo platter for 3 first rounders.

Melonhead · 02-05-2023, 09:33 PM

Stein sub stack said Dallas tried to give nets THJ and Wood and they weren?t biting.

Unfortunately I don?t think Cuban has any interest in having Wood.

DevinHarriswillstart · 02-05-2023, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

Stein sub stack said Dallas tried to give nets THJ and Wood and they weren?t biting.

Unfortunately I don?t think Cuban has any interest in having Wood.

Yeah but everything in the NBA is fluid. We are now in a much better position keeping Wood this summer with Luka and Kyrie on board (provided Kyrie stays).

rimrocker · 02-05-2023, 09:42 PM

A Luka/Kyrie duo is not going to work.
Not sure what Nico and Kidd are trying to do.
I hope like hell I'm wrong but I just don't see this working at all.

DevinHarriswillstart · 02-05-2023, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by rimrocker

A Luka/Kyrie duo is not going to work.
Not sure what Nico and Kidd are trying to do.
I hope like hell I'm wrong but I just don't see this working at all.

Luka being run into the ground also wasn't working. Guy just got a bruised heel which is dangerously close to achilles. That's red alert for help now.

And Luka and Brunson worked just fine. Kyrie is a taller, more well rounded version of Brunson.

Underrated stat of Kyrie...averages 5 rebounds a game.

SMC0007 · 02-05-2023, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Luka being run into the ground also wasn't working. Guy just got a bruised heel which is dangerously close to achilles. That's red alert for help now.

And Luka and Brunson worked just fine. Kyrie is a taller, more well rounded version of Brunson.

Underrated stat of Kyrie...averages 5 rebounds a game.

Well Luka could have done that regardless of any overuse etc. That's a risk of being aggressive at times. Anyone could take a tough spill.

But yea. Kyrie is also a way better defender than Brunson (who fn sucked.) He's a solid defender.

rimrocker · 02-05-2023, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Luka being run into the ground also wasn't working. Guy just got a bruised heel which is dangerously close to achilles. That's red alert for help now.

And Luka and Brunson worked just fine. Kyrie is a taller, more well rounded version of Brunson.

Underrated stat of Kyrie...averages 5 rebounds a game.

Brunson and Kyrie are two completely different individuals.
Brunson was the ideal sidekick for Luka, Kyrie is a different animal.
We'll see how the two alphas bond, but I don't see it turning out well.

EricaLubarsky · 02-05-2023, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rimrocker

A Luka/Kyrie duo is not going to work.
Not sure what Nico and Kidd are trying to do.
I hope like hell I'm wrong but I just don't see this working at all.

Kyrie is a more consistent and more efficient Brunson and this board has been nothing but whining about Brunson leaving.

Not sure how you can think Brunson is a fit and Kyrie isn?t.

Btw, Luka gave his thumbs up for this trade

rimrocker · 02-05-2023, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Kyrie is a more consistent and more efficient Brunson and this board has been nothing but whining about Brunson leaving.

Not sure how you can think Brunson is a fit and Kyrie isn?t.

Btw, Luka gave his thumbs up for this trade

No argument talent wise.
The problem is between the ears.

Dtownsfinest · 02-05-2023, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

Stein sub stack said Dallas tried to give nets THJ and Wood and they weren?t biting.

Unfortunately I don?t think Cuban has any interest in having Wood.

That?s disappointing they tried to give away Wood over Dinwiddie. Just trade him now before he leaves and we get nothing?.

BPo001 · 02-05-2023, 09:34 PM

Bobby Marks: Some more trade notes: ⭐️Dorian Finney-Smith has a 15% trade bonus that is valued at $1.6M. Dallas is responsible for the bonus. His cap hit this season is $12.9M ($1.6M divided by 3). ⭐️Spencer Dinwiddie earned a $1.5M games played bonus. The Mavericks are responsible for the bonus. ? via Twitter BobbyMarks42

Simon2 · 02-05-2023, 09:35 PM

How about Bojan and Noel for THJ and Powell?

JustJay · 02-05-2023, 09:40 PM

And of course Laker fans are butthurt about this, great day.

JustJay · 02-05-2023, 09:43 PM

Lakers fans are butthurt but their "logic" is Kyrie is just going to go to the Lakers this summer anyway. Whatevs.

Dtownsfinest · 02-05-2023, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JustJay

Lakers fans are butthurt but their "logic" is Kyrie is just going to go to the Lakers this summer anyway. Whatevs.

Why didn?t they take that approach with AD? Just wait for him to hit free agency?

rimrocker · 02-05-2023, 09:46 PM

And I thought this was going to be a boring sports Sunday.

JustJay · 02-05-2023, 09:47 PM

Maybe because Chris Paul is about to be 38 and only averaging 13.8 ppg which signals the end is near, and Jae Crowder is not a "winning vet"

And Russ being a former MVP is semantics. Why not boast about Jason Kidd's former accolades too or Steve Nash since we're doing history.

JustJay · 02-05-2023, 09:56 PM

My tweet

SMC0007 · 02-05-2023, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JustJay

My tweet

In fairness, fwiw, CP is a much better defender.

Dallas41 · 02-05-2023, 10:35 PM

This is short term move but IDGAF because i think if the team can find a solid center at the deadline and a serviceable wing defender this move might just get the Mavs back to the WCF's at minimum.

This team was dead in the water before the trade.

The only thing i don't like is Powell seems to be overvalued still and THJ is so bad that no other teams want him.

DevinHarriswillstart · 02-05-2023, 11:09 PM

Funny reading these other forums like they are gonna get Lavine or Beal etc.

Bird in hand is worth two in the bush.

JustJay · 02-06-2023, 12:01 AM

Wednesday night is much watch TV.

DevinHarriswillstart · 02-06-2023, 12:02 AM

Well a large part of it doesn't matter if it fails because Cuban did get Luka another all-star. You can't say he didn't try now. It was just a perfect deal at the perfect time with the right amount of assets type of situation.

Again, how many times will we ever see the Mavs winning a trade for a superstar over the Lakers, Clippers, and Suns?

Gotta live it up because it might never happen again.

JustJay · 02-06-2023, 12:12 AM

Melonhead · 02-06-2023, 12:21 AM

TMac made a good point. It would be a tough sell for Nico and Cuban to look Luka in the eye and say hey we could?ve had a deal for Kyrie but just didn?t think it was worth it, but also trust us in the summer.

For Lukas sake it was the only big swing the Mavs could manage, and from that pov it needed to happen. Gonna miss Dorian, and I hope in some weird way he?s a maverick before the end of his career.

Mavs gotta push the rest of the chips in and get a defensive wing and a center. Would love to have Wood but I don?t see Cuban keeping him unless there?s just no good deals on the market for him.

SMC0007 · 02-06-2023, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

TMac made a good point. It would be a tough sell for Nico and Cuban to look Luka in the eye and say hey we could?ve had a deal for Kyrie but just didn?t think it was worth it, but also trust us in the summer.

For Lukas sake it was the only big swing the Mavs could manage, and from that pov it needed to happen. Gonna miss Dorian, and I hope in some weird way he?s a maverick before the end of his career.

Mavs gotta push the rest of the chips in and get a defensive wing and a center. Would love to have Wood but I don?t see Cuban keeping him unless there?s just no good deals on the market for him.

Are You talking about trading Wood, whoever and a 1rnd pick for a Center, per se? Otherwise, how do you push all thr chips in and thrn let Wood loose?

Melonhead · 02-06-2023, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

Are You talking about trading Wood, whoever and a 1rnd pick for a Center, per se? Otherwise, how do you push all thr chips in and thrn let Wood loose?

Yeah I think Cuban tries to do what he can to get a center and/or wing defender which may come at the expense of Wood in a deal with the other stuff you mentioned.

Maybe we luck out and just keep Wood til the end of the season with no deal though. We need his size and limited defense and rebounding.

DevinHarriswillstart · 02-06-2023, 12:26 AM

I know all of these offers have been leaked, but I'm not quite sure I buy all of them.

Like, Mavs offering THJ and Wood...I'm sure they discussed every player on the Mavs roster not named Luka. Not saying Cuban will pay for Wood, but dismissing him completely now is a a bit of a stretch. Hell, we badly need him for his rebounding and shot blocking, so unless that comes back in return....

SMC0007 · 02-06-2023, 12:40 AM

The supposed offer from Clippers doesn't give them a capable ball handler/ PG. I don't blame the Nets for passing on that offer.

JustJay · 02-06-2023, 12:40 AM

Oh look the drama king thinking the world is supposed to revolve around him.

JustJay · 02-06-2023, 01:54 AM

Nets may trade Spence?

JustJay · 02-06-2023, 01:56 AM

Samurai · 02-06-2023, 01:59 AM

The trades to other teams that I've seen were contingent on Irving signing an extension with them. Dallas traded two starters and a 1st rounder for what probably will be a 2 month rental. Can't see Luka sharing the ball with Irving. And if Irving wouldn't take a back seat to LeBron, why would he submit to Luka?.

JustJay · 02-06-2023, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Samurai

The trades to other teams that I've seen were contingent on Irving signing an extension with them. Dallas traded two starters and a 1st rounder for what probably will be a 2 month rental. Can't see Luka sharing the ball with Irving. And if Irving wouldn't take a back seat to LeBron, why would he submit to Luka?.

Luka shared the ball with Brunson just fine, and people can grow up between 24 years and 30 years old. Most do.

If there's going to be problems with Kyrie it won't be this year IMO. He does not want to screw up a max contract opportunity.

tap2390 · 02-06-2023, 08:19 AM

He may be a rental, but the gamble is this off-season he can?t get to a destination of his choice without the Mavs cooperation in a sign and trade. Let?s say he?s motivated and balls out, we will likely see better compensation than what we gave up yesterday.

Bryan_Wilson · 02-06-2023, 09:18 AM

If you asked me before the season if I wanted Kyrie I'd say hell no.

After watching this team for the first half of the season and tearing my hair out... Knowing that with the assets we have and what is out there we can't get a 2nd star anytime soon and depending on the role players we might target we may never get a 2nd star, just like with Dirk...

Now I think this risk is well worth it for what we paid. Especially if rumors are true and OG is potentially going to net a package in the neighborhood of 3 1sts from the Knicks. I rly wish we could somehow get OG paired with what we have because it's a super good fit for what we need but I don't see how we can swing it. For what we gave up I am fine with this move.