Offseason 2010 Thread

[bobatundi]

Read a rumor out of Philly that the Sixers may be shopping the #2 pick, if someone would take on Brand's salary. Damp for Brand & the #2 pick straight-up would work. Depending on how desperate Philly is, we could also try to force the inclusion of Matt Carroll in the deal to reduce the total financial burden to the Mavs.

Would you do it? Brand is a shell of his former self and would be way over-paid ($51 million for the next three years), but he would not be a bad bench player to have backing up Dirk and 'Wood at 4/5. With #2, draft Evan Turner, who immediately becomes the Mavs' starting 2 and the core of the next 10x50 as half of the starting backcourt of Beaubois/Turner for the next decade.

Terry thus becomes expendable (already is, in my opinion), and with Turner & Roddy taking minutes at the 2 next season, he doesn't play enough minutes to guarantee 2011--making him our next "instant expiring" to use as a trade chip in the subsequent offseason. Brand limps through two seasons before becoming a FAT, in every sense of the word, expiring deal that could be useful in adding talent in 2012.

It's a lot of salary to swallow--but I think I'd do it, assuming Philly were willing, and assuming LeBron & Wade both shoot us down.

[dalmations202]

Originally Posted by bobatundi

Read a rumor out of Philly that the Sixers may be shopping the #2 pick, if someone would take on Brand's salary. Damp for Brand & the #2 pick straight-up would work. Depending on how desperate Philly is, we could also try to force the inclusion of Matt Carroll in the deal to reduce the total financial burden to the Mavs.

Would you do it? Brand is a shell of his former self and would be way over-paid ($51 million for the next three years), but he would not be a bad bench player to have backing up Dirk and 'Wood at 4/5. With #2, draft Evan Turner, who immediately becomes the Mavs' starting 2 and the core of the next 10x50 as half of the starting backcourt of Beaubois/Turner for the next decade.

Terry thus becomes expendable (already is, in my opinion), and with Turner & Roddy taking minutes at the 2 next season, he doesn't play enough minutes to guarantee 2011--making him our next "instant expiring" to use as a trade chip in the subsequent offseason. Brand limps through two seasons before becoming a FAT, in every sense of the word, expiring deal that could be useful in adding talent in 2012.

It's a lot of salary to swallow--but I think I'd do it, assuming Philly were willing, and assuming LeBron & Wade both shoot us down.

That isn't my question..... my question is -- Do you do this before you get shot down by Wade/Lebron , or are you getting enough talent back to help you get Wade/Lebron?

Reason: draft is before the free agency period -- and I am guessing the Sixers want it done before the draft - so they know when/where/who they will be drafting.

Is that talent of Turner/Brand enough to burn your DUST chip, now before you get an answer from Lebron/Wade? Does it help or hurt you ability to get Lebron, let's say?

If you get Turner/Brand -- what do you have to give up in the SNT? Would the team want DUST or talent/salary?

[tcat075]

Originally Posted by bobatundi

Read a rumor out of Philly that the Sixers may be shopping the #2 pick, if someone would take on Brand's salary. Damp for Brand & the #2 pick straight-up would work. Depending on how desperate Philly is, we could also try to force the inclusion of Matt Carroll in the deal to reduce the total financial burden to the Mavs.

Would you do it? Brand is a shell of his former self and would be way over-paid ($51 million for the next three years), but he would not be a bad bench player to have backing up Dirk and 'Wood at 4/5. With #2, draft Evan Turner, who immediately becomes the Mavs' starting 2 and the core of the next 10x50 as half of the starting backcourt of Beaubois/Turner for the next decade.

Terry thus becomes expendable (already is, in my opinion), and with Turner & Roddy taking minutes at the 2 next season, he doesn't play enough minutes to guarantee 2011--making him our next "instant expiring" to use as a trade chip in the subsequent offseason. Brand limps through two seasons before becoming a FAT, in every sense of the word, expiring deal that could be useful in adding talent in 2012.

It's a lot of salary to swallow--but I think I'd do it, assuming Philly were willing, and assuming LeBron & Wade both shoot us down.

I know they want to get rid of Brand's contract, but I doubt they're so desperate that they'd just give away the 2 pick for simple cap relief. That's a really high pick. Do you think they'd do it? I think they'd want something...preferably someone they could develop and who has a cheap contract. Roddy's too valuable to be that piece, and I'm not sure we have any other ones that fits that description.

Perhaps they are that desperate...we've been spoiled with Cubes, I don't really know what its like to not have any cap space...but it seems like a long shot. Anyway, there's always talk about buying picks or trading picks, but it seems like it never happens.

[tcat075]

Originally Posted by dalmations202

That isn't my question..... my question is -- Do you do this before you get shot down by Wade/Lebron , or are you getting enough talent back to help you get Wade/Lebron?

Reason: draft is before the free agency period -- and I am guessing the Sixers want it done before the draft - so they know when/where/who they will be drafting.

Is that talent of Turner/Brand enough to burn your DUST chip, now before you get an answer from Lebron/Wade? Does it help or hurt you ability to get Lebron, let's say?

If you get Turner/Brand -- what do you have to give up in the SNT? Would the team want DUST or talent/salary?

Interesting point. But you can start talking to potential free agents on June 1st, correct? The draft isn't until late June. That should be enough time to judge the interest of the big free agents, right?

[sike]

I just can't see Cubes taking on that Brand albatross...

[grndmstr_c]

I'm not a draft expert by any means, but I'd gotten the impression that Wall and Turner were all but guaranteed to be the top two picks. If that's accurate, then I'd expect Philly to just pick whichever one is still on the board even if they have no idea whether the pick will get traded.

From Dallas' perspective, though, if you're pulling the trigger on a Brand/#2 swap you've got to either think that Brand is ready to regain 90-95% of his pre-injury form (extremely doubtful), or you've got to believe that Turner (if Wall goes #1) is a can't-miss instant starter and a perennial all-star at SG by his third year in the NBA at the latest. The reason is simply this. Brand, at present, isn't worth more than 6-7 million per year, yet he's slated to make about 50 million over the next three years. Turner, as the second pick, would start off making, what, 4 million or something in that neighborhood? That means Dallas would be on the hook for 20-25 million per on average for those two players over the next three seasons. If Turner's not almost instantly playing like a guy who deserves to make 10+ million per season, the trade would end up handicapping the team horribly moving forward.

Lumping in Carroll (assuming it'd be cap-legal; I haven't checked) would help leverage the risk somewhat, but count me as thinking that it's unlikely that Dallas would pull the trigger on that deal even if Philly were willing.

[Kidd Karma]

Starting to think Favors should be #2, legit center size and skills, slow start at Tech, hurting his status.

[tcat075]

Originally Posted by Kidd Karma

Starting to think Favors should be #2, legit center size and skills, slow start at Tech, hurting his status.

I think you might be on to something. Turner is a really nice player...good size for a 2 guard, really good handles, and can carve the defense well, but watching a few of his videos I can't help but think some of his drives to the basket are caused by poor defense by the opponents. He has a good collegiate jumper, but in regards to the NBA it is average at best.

He's a really good player and from what I see I wouldn't fault anyone for taking him 2, but I wonder if that's just a little too high.

[LonghornDub]

Has this been posted yet? Pretty hilarious blooper reel from several video outtakes this season. I love Barea wearing the oversized sunglasses from Dirka's av:

http://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2010/5/...r-reel-h-t-2mg

[Dirkadirkastan]

Originally Posted by LonghornDub

Has this been posted yet? Pretty hilarious blooper reel from several video outtakes this season. I love Barea wearing the oversized sunglasses from Dirka's av:

http://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2010/5/...r-reel-h-t-2mg

Here Chum, I made this for you:

[chumdawg]

Ha, ha. That is hilarious.

[bobatundi]

I honestly don't think you wait around for LeBron or Wade if this deal is available (and that's a huge if). Can't start talking to free agents until July 1, after the draft has already happened, and the competition for those guys will be fierce.

As an alternative to Damp, the Mavs could offer Caron & DeShawn. That way, Philly gets some talent back (Caron) and two contracts that expire at the end of the season if that's their desire. It's basically a wash salary-wise in year 1, so then the Mavs are only taking on an incremental $35MM in salary for Brand...and again, I suspect the $18MM expiring in a couple years will be worth a lot in trade to someone.

Somehow convince Philly to include Iguodala & Terry in the swap and I might move back to Dallas to watch that team!

[RareMilk]

Butler hopes to remain as a Maverick...
http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/but...p-it-together/

[SMC0007]

Originally Posted by RareMilk

Butler hopes to remain as a Maverick...
http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/but...p-it-together/

He lost me at:

"All that said, I’m aware that it’s all going to depend on what Dirk Nowitzki decides. You kind of feel what he wants is to stay a Maverick for life, but you can never know for sure. You just have to wait and see what happens during free agency. If you ask me, I would like this team to stay together. We’re not that far off. We could return next season with the exact same squad and compete for the title. We have the experience, leadership and everything else in place to make it happen."

[KINGBEEF]

Originally Posted by RareMilk

Butler hopes to remain as a Maverick...
http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/but...p-it-together/

Interesting blog from Butler. I only have one question for Caron Butler. After your game 5 performance, what made you completely do a 180 in game 6? Your first couple of shots were jump shots. Long jump shots at that. Why didn't you go to the hole like in game 5. WHY? WHHHYYYY?

Sorry about that, but anyways... Butler you're right if Dirk wants you here, you'll be here, but if Dirk wants you gone... Well you know how that story ends.

[grndmstr_c]

Originally Posted by bobatundi

I honestly don't think you wait around for LeBron or Wade if this deal is available (and that's a huge if). Can't start talking to free agents until July 1, after the draft has already happened, and the competition for those guys will be fierce.

As an alternative to Damp, the Mavs could offer Caron & DeShawn. That way, Philly gets some talent back (Caron) and two contracts that expire at the end of the season if that's their desire. It's basically a wash salary-wise in year 1, so then the Mavs are only taking on an incremental $35MM in salary for Brand...and again, I suspect the $18MM expiring in a couple years will be worth a lot in trade to someone.

Somehow convince Philly to include Iguodala & Terry in the swap and I might move back to Dallas to watch that team!

I agree that if a good deal comes along on draft day for a non-free agent the Mavs shouldn't be afraid to pull the trigger. I just don't think Brand/#2 is that deal.

And apologies for being blunt, but the idea of subbing in Caron for Damp is terrible. With Damp at least you're not giving away talent that you'd otherwise have under contract next year. Sub in Caron and there's a very real risk that the best player involved in the deal would be the one heading to Philly. It'd be like mortgaging your house to buy a gun and then using it to shoot yourself in the foot.

[grndmstr_c]

Originally Posted by SMC0007

He lost me at:

"All that said, I’m aware that it’s all going to depend on what Dirk Nowitzki decides. You kind of feel what he wants is to stay a Maverick for life, but you can never know for sure. You just have to wait and see what happens during free agency. If you ask me, I would like this team to stay together. We’re not that far off. We could return next season with the exact same squad and compete for the title. We have the experience, leadership and everything else in place to make it happen."

He didn't lose me. A lot of that depends on how Booby develops, how Kidd holds up, and what other teams do this summer, but I think the team is closer to contention than many here think.

That said, I think (hope) the goal is to move from arguable contention to consensus (co)favorite, and that likely will require something more than standing pat.

[SMC0007]

Originally Posted by grndmstr_c

He didn't lose me. A lot of that depends on how Booby develops, how Kidd holds up, and what other teams do this summer, but I think the team is closer to contention than many here think.

That said, I think (hope) the goal is to move from arguable contention to consensus (co)favorite, and that likely will require something more than standing pat.

Well when he said exact same team, I thought he isn't giving some other really good teams credit. Sure if Roddy improves and actually gets to play we will be better, but there are still a few things that hold us back. Kidd is older and I'm not in love with what he has left already. We still don't have a slasher or creator/scorer at SG... the list of issues that we have had that held us back remain unchanged aside from Roddys development and I'm not convinced that RC will play him the minutes he deserves.

To me it's painfully obvious that we require something more than standing pat.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by SMC0007

He lost me at:

"All that said, I’m aware that it’s all going to depend on what Dirk Nowitzki decides. You kind of feel what he wants is to stay a Maverick for life, but you can never know for sure. You just have to wait and see what happens during free agency. If you ask me, I would like this team to stay together. We’re not that far off. We could return next season with the exact same squad and compete for the title. We have the experience, leadership and everything else in place to make it happen."

I honestly have been thinking about this for a the last few days myself. Can you feel that bad is the Mavs kept the same team? The Mavs didn't lack talent in the playoffs...they lacked players showing up. So...I guess you can argue all day about who the team should get rid of that didn't show up in the playoffs....but I still feel pretty good about the talent on this team. Still good enough to win 50 games, could be worse.

I'm pretty sure that most of the fan base would be satisfied as long as one thing happened...Roddy b. I don't know a sane nba fan who didn't think Roddy was under used this season. Play him, and Rick will win them back.

[grndmstr_c]

Originally Posted by SMC0007

...Sure if Roddy improves and actually gets to play we will be better, but there are still a few things that hold us back. Kidd is older and I'm not in love with what he has left already. We still don't have a slasher or creator/scorer at SG... the list of issues that we have had that held us back remain unchanged aside from Roddys development and I'm not convinced that RC will play him the minutes he deserves.

To me it's painfully obvious that we require something more than standing pat.

Well, two areas where I expect we just disagree, then, are Kidd's value (I think he's still got plenty) and the question of whether Rick would play Booby (I think he'll not repeat his mistake of last season).

What I'm a little puzzled by is this: wouldn't sufficient development from Booby effectively address the creator/scorer issue? His talent for creating offense in the half-court is, after all, the reason he's in the league, yet you seem to dismiss that as a possible route to contention for the current roster.

[Kidd Karma]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

I honestly have been thinking about this for a the last few days myself. Can you feel that bad is the Mavs kept the same team? The Mavs didn't lack talent in the playoffs...they lacked players showing up. So...I guess you can argue all day about who the team should get rid of that didn't show up in the playoffs....but I still feel pretty good about the talent on this team. Still good enough to win 50 games, could be worse.

I'm pretty sure that most of the fan base would be satisfied as long as one thing happened...Roddy b. I don't know a sane nba fan who didn't think Roddy was under used this season. Play him, and Rick will win them back.

If a team stacked on paper, should still be playing today, isn't....I need to improve it. You look at who didn't show up.....Kidd, Jet, Caron, Marion. Kidd, he was there all season, just picked up an ear infection and was not the same, does that give him a pass, no, but I blame much of Kidd's run down status, and yes and ear infection or illness could be avoided, if rested properly, this rests on RC's shoulder, for not reducing Kidd's minutes, trusing Roddy. Jet, was in a slump all series long, is it age? Who knows, at least we have Roddy to dig some into that role. With Butler for a whole season, that too will dig into Jet's minutes. Caron, was not focused on getting to the bucket every night out. That should be his primary focus if he's back, attack the hole time and time again. If the lane is there, attack the cup. Well Marion was absent, as much of his scoring depends on getting him the rock in opportunity. Biggest need is a low post scoring threat and a wing that will attack the cup consistently, Caron can be that guy, but he has to be punished every time he's jacking a 20 footer.

[Dirkadirkastan]

Originally Posted by grndmstr_c

What I'm a little puzzled by is this: wouldn't sufficient development from Booby effectively address the creator/scorer issue? His talent for creating offense in the half-court is, after all, the reason he's in the league, yet you seem to dismiss that as a possible route to contention for the current roster.

Possibly. But it's the offseason, so it would be prudent to address the issue with a proven scorer now if possible. Relying on Roddy exclusively might be an unnecessary risk.

[grndmstr_c]

Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan

Possibly. But it's the offseason, so it would be prudent to address the issue with a proven scorer now if possible. Relying on Roddy exclusively might be an unnecessary risk.

No doubt. I'm just arguing that if everything else falls flat, it might not be as bad a contingency plan as some think.

[wilmtalk]

Getting Turner from Philly would insure that he would be riding the bench just like Roddy did last year. I think that we should try for one of the superstars but do not need to morgage the future or sell the farm to do so. The talent is here we just need to adress the guard and Center positions. The guard situation could be adressed by playing Roddy and getting rid of either Terry or JJb. If Roddy played we would not be dependant on JJB's ability to break down the D off the dribble. One of the three Kidd, Terry or JJB has to go. All three are defensive libilities. JJB is the only one of the three who can take it off the dribble. Kidd has more plus's than the other two so we should stick with him. Besides some people think that he is a god so that would never fly.

We definately need another Center beside's Haywood. Damp is overrated as a defender and is getting old and even slower than he ever was. The number of centers that his size was effective against has diminished considerably. The days of the low post physical center is over except for Howard and Damp could never stop him even if he were in his prime. If we got another center and perhaps a multifacited guard to replace either JJB or Terry we would bne contenders.

The only problem I see is that we would still have RC as the coach. Thats actually the position that we really need to get better at. When our role playing players don't produce in their area's of strength he doesn't know how to adjust.

[clutch#41]

Originally Posted by SMC0007

He lost me at:

"All that said, I’m aware that it’s all going to depend on what Dirk Nowitzki decides. You kind of feel what he wants is to stay a Maverick for life, but you can never know for sure. You just have to wait and see what happens during free agency. If you ask me, I would like this team to stay together. We’re not that far off. We could return next season with the exact same squad and compete for the title. We have the experience, leadership and everything else in place to make it happen."

ya i dont mind if the same team returns especially with roddyb getting another year of development.the team jus needs a few tweaks on the bench...look at phoenix..there 10 deep..what are we 8 deep? with kidd and dirk playing 35mins+ a game...

[Kidd Karma]

Originally Posted by clutch#41

ya i dont mind if the same team returns especially with roddyb getting another year of development.the team jus needs a few tweaks on the bench...look at phoenix..there 10 deep..what are we 8 deep? with kidd and dirk playing 35mins+ a game...

Channing Frye, Jared Dudley, Goran Dragic, Barbosa, before this season started who would you trade off our bench? Nevertheless, RC probably would chain them to the bench. Outside of Barbosa, the other 3 had not proved themselves in this league over 82. Gentry gave them time to develop, he sits Nash because Goran was hot. Difference Gentry-RC.

[clutch#41]

Originally Posted by Kidd Karma

Channing Frye, Jared Dudley, Goran Dragic, Barbosa, before this season started who would you trade off our bench? Nevertheless, RC probably would chain them to the bench. Outside of Barbosa, the other 3 had not proved themselves in this league over 82. Gentry gave them time to develop, he sits Nash because Goran was hot. Difference Gentry-RC.

ya gentry>RC..and the key difference between there's and ours is YOUTH!!

[tcat075]

Originally Posted by SMC0007

He lost me at:

"All that said, I’m aware that it’s all going to depend on what Dirk Nowitzki decides. You kind of feel what he wants is to stay a Maverick for life, but you can never know for sure. You just have to wait and see what happens during free agency. If you ask me, I would like this team to stay together. We’re not that far off. We could return next season with the exact same squad and compete for the title. We have the experience, leadership and everything else in place to make it happen."

Yeah, like others said, I don't think this is so far off. We have a ton of talent on our roster. I think JET's over the hill, now, and he's never going to be like he was in 08-09. However, Kidd's three should increase a point or 2, perhaps. Butler had an atrocious year by his standards...it would shock me to see him go from 15 ppg on average shooting to 18-19 ppg on above average shooting with a full season to develop chemistry and to have a training camp. It seemed like a lot of the effective plays for Butler...a handoff/pick from a big man, that baseline iso...were used less and less as the season went along for some reason. Probably the coaches were trying to institute Butler into their own plays, but maybe this summer they'll change their playbook a little to accommodate his plays. Remember, he averaged 20 ppg one season (06-07, was it?) so its not as drastic a turnaround as you might htink to go from 15 to 18.

Of course, Roddy will be the biggest improvement. He getting minutes will allow him to score in the paint, which will open up the floor more off penetrations (see: Nash and Dragic this postseason), and improve the defense because we aren't playing 5'9" playings as much anymore.

His quote is that they could be champion contenders. I agree; they could be champion contenders with this exact same group next year.

And even if we don't pull off a big move (Lebron; Wade) or even a medium move (Iggy), I think there's some really nice free agents we could go pick up for MLE that would improve this team. I'm mainly thinking shootings...my choice is JJ Redick, but Kyle Korver or Mike Miller are also out there as free agents. These are guys who you can count on to make open 3's, since JET is no longer that player and Marion and Butler have never been.

[Kidd Karma]

Originally Posted by tcat075

Yeah, like others said, I don't think this is so far off. We have a ton of talent on our roster. I think JET's over the hill, now, and he's never going to be like he was in 08-09. However, Kidd's three should increase a point or 2, perhaps. Butler had an atrocious year by his standards...it would shock me to see him go from 15 ppg on average shooting to 18-19 ppg on above average shooting with a full season to develop chemistry and to have a training camp. It seemed like a lot of the effective plays for Butler...a handoff/pick from a big man, that baseline iso...were used less and less as the season went along for some reason. Probably the coaches were trying to institute Butler into their own plays, but maybe this summer they'll change their playbook a little to accommodate his plays. Remember, he averaged 20 ppg one season (06-07, was it?) so its not as drastic a turnaround as you might htink to go from 15 to 18.

Of course, Roddy will be the biggest improvement. He getting minutes will allow him to score in the paint, which will open up the floor more off penetrations (see: Nash and Dragic this postseason), and improve the defense because we aren't playing 5'9" playings as much anymore.

His quote is that they could be champion contenders. I agree; they could be champion contenders with this exact same group next year.

And even if we don't pull off a big move (Lebron; Wade) or even a medium move (Iggy), I think there's some really nice free agents we could go pick up for MLE that would improve this team. I'm mainly thinking shootings...my choice is JJ Redick, but Kyle Korver or Mike Miller are also out there as free agents. These are guys who you can count on to make open 3's, since JET is no longer that player and Marion and Butler have never been.

Yea, would be nice if we can pick up Korver, Miller, or Redick to take on Jet's role.

[Kidd Karma]

Originally Posted by clutch#41

ya gentry>RC..and the key difference between there's and ours is YOUTH!!

Plus they didn't have a mid year addition of 2 rotational players, their roster has been in tact from day 1. Nevertheless, I think it's coaching and player rotation, do you get the bench experience and develop chemistry....or you scrap that and ball Grant, Nash Jrich, and Amare for 40 a night.

[SMC0007]

Originally Posted by grndmstr_c

No doubt. I'm just arguing that if everything else falls flat, it might not be as bad a contingency plan as some think.

Short on time now but.... as a contingency plan such as relying on Roddy to carry the missing link and even more importantly be able to do it consistently under playoff pressure, I can't expect them to win it all. All else wont fail this summer imo, but if it did, I won't have my expectations very high.

[CadBane]

Originally Posted by Kidd Karma

Yea, would be nice if we can pick up Korver, Miller, or Redick to take on Jet's role.

All three are pretty underrated as complete players as well, especially JJ. JJ actually has become a very solid defender, he's played some very nice D on Ray Allen. He is also a fundamentally sound player who has become very adept at penetrating and dishing, getting to the FT line and making smart passes. SVG plays him in the 4th over Barnes and at times Vince. I would love to have JJ here. Korver and Miller are more three's than twos, but I would be happy with either as well.

[grndmstr_c]

Redick would be a nice pickup, though I'd expect Orlando to match up to the MLE on him, so he might only be a realistic option if a team under the cap decides to get aggressive in bidding for him (though even then BYC issues would probably complicate matters).

Depending on how things shake out, though, if the Mavs are at all in the trade market for some of Orlando's other assets (Pietrus and Gortat, for example), a biggish offer to Redick could help out Dallas indirectly by motivating Orlando to clear some salary off their bench so that they can play Redick enough to get their money's worth out of him, so his situation bears watching, regardless.

[mavs777]

Id love to see Roddy in the 6th man role next year, so jet needs to go

[tcat075]

Originally Posted by CadBane

All three are pretty underrated as complete players as well, especially JJ. JJ actually has become a very solid defender, he's played some very nice D on Ray Allen. He is also a fundamentally sound player who has become very adept at penetrating and dishing, getting to the FT line and making smart passes. SVG plays him in the 4th over Barnes and at times Vince. I would love to have JJ here. Korver and Miller are more three's than twos, but I would be happy with either as well.

I've seen Redick abused at times on defense, but overall, I think he's an average defender, surprising considering he's an nonathletic white shooter. He wouldn't get the steals, but purely man to man he's likely better than JET. Mainly, Redick isn't undersized like Terry is.

[mavs777]

Originally Posted by grndmstr_c

Redick would be a nice pickup, though I'd expect Orlando to match up to the MLE on him, so he might only be a realistic option if a team under the cap decides to get aggressive in bidding for him (though even then BYC issues would probably complicate matters).

Depending on how things shake out, though, if the Mavs are at all in the trade market for some of Orlando's other assets (Pietrus and Gortat, for example), a biggish offer to Redick could help out Dallas indirectly by motivating Orlando to clear some salary off their bench so that they can play Redick enough to get their money's worth out of him, so his situation bears watching, regardless.

Reddick is becoming a good player, he is good enough to finish out a starting lineup for a title contending team, he has improved a ton

[sefant77]

Originally Posted by Kidd Karma

If a team stacked on paper, should still be playing today, isn't....I need to improve it. You look at who didn't show up.....Kidd, Jet, Caron, Marion. Kidd, he was there all season, just picked up an ear infection and was not the same, does that give him a pass, no, but I blame much of Kidd's run down status, and yes and ear infection or illness could be avoided, if rested properly, this rests on RC's shoulder, for not reducing Kidd's minutes, trusing Roddy. Jet, was in a slump all series long, is it age? Who knows, at least we have Roddy to dig some into that role. With Butler for a whole season, that too will dig into Jet's minutes. Caron, was not focused on getting to the bucket every night out. That should be his primary focus if he's back, attack the hole time and time again. If the lane is there, attack the cup. Well Marion was absent, as much of his scoring depends on getting him the rock in opportunity. Biggest need is a low post scoring threat and a wing that will attack the cup consistently, Caron can be that guy, but he has to be punished every time he's jacking a 20 footer.

Jet is in a playoff slump since 2007

I want Roddy as 6th. I hope he works during the summer on the PnR and defense. Thats the one big leak RC is pointing out. Reduce Jets minutes, shots and crunchtime apperance. Actually reduce his play into a Korver/Redick role and you dont need one of these guys.

[Thomas86]

Agent: LeBron James is searching for a sidekick

Bill Duffy, a longtime NBA agent, likened the situation to Batman searching for Robin.

I think each player has to assess his own individual situation," Duffy told the Detroit Free-Press. "I think the reason you're seeing this synergy, so to speak, is that all of these guys are in situations where they are not winning, so they need a co-conspirator. I call it the Batman and Robin syndrome where some players are Batman and some players are Robin.

"If you look at the NBA there's never been one individual superstar to carry a team. Oscar Robertson teamed with Lew Alcindor at the time. In Detroit you could say Dennis Rodman and Joe Dumars were Isiah Thomas' Robins and Magic (Johnson) was surrounded by a bunch of great players."

Duffy added that this summer's free agent class is extremely rare.

"First of all, for the agents, players and the league and the various teams this is very unprecedented," Duffy said. "There has never been a situation where you've had this many marquee players free at the same time.

http://www.freep.com/article/2010052...for-a-sidekick


Dirk + Lebron =

[Nowitzki4President]

Turkoglu to back up dirk maybe? He wants out of toronto for sure. His contract is big for that kind of role, but isnt a release possible?

[bobatundi]

I don't think Hedo is that good. He's a nice player, but I don't see him as a #2.