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LonghornDub · 04-06-2011, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

It's not like ESPN Dallas would stop writing about the Mavs. They just wouldn't have quotes. I think it would barely be a blip on the radar for the majority of people that pay even the slightest attention to the team.

It's true that they wouldn't stop writing, but I would have to think a lack of media access and quotes would substantially impact the volume of Mavs stuff they write. You can only write so many quote-less analytical pieces.

I'd like to know what ESPNDallas's viewership numbers on their Mavs stuff is. Right now, I'm basically just speculating.

BGMaverick9 · 04-06-2011, 06:47 PM

I guess I can let the cat out of the bag now:

Tonight is my last night at Mavs Moneyball. On Friday night I will be joining Mavs.com
I'll be working alongside Earl K. Sneed.

jthig32 · 04-06-2011, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

I guess I can let the cat out of the bag now:

Tonight is my last night at Mavs Moneyball. On Friday night I will be joining Mavs.com
I'll be working alongside Earl K. Sneed.

WHOAH.

Are you going to be traveling with the team? Is this a legitimate job?

b_o_r · 04-06-2011, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

I guess I can let the cat out of the bag now:

Tonight is my last night at Mavs Moneyball. On Friday night I will be joining Mavs.com
I'll be working alongside Earl K. Sneed.

Congrats to you. We wish you well!

LonghornDub · 04-06-2011, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

I guess I can let the cat out of the bag now:

Tonight is my last night at Mavs Moneyball. On Friday night I will be joining Mavs.com
I'll be working alongside Earl K. Sneed.

This is the first I've heard of this. I am so surprised by this news.

Serious congrats, BG. Well-deserved.

BGMaverick9 · 04-06-2011, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

WHOAH.

Are you going to be traveling with the team? Is this a legitimate job?

No, I will be doing exactly what I do right now as a freelancer but if everything goes ok, it will move into a legit gig starting next season.

jthig32 · 04-06-2011, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

No, I will be doing exactly what I do right now as a freelancer but if everything goes ok, it will move into a legit gig starting next season.

Dude that's freaking awesome. Congrats. LJ hasn't wasted any time trying to replace you I see.

Kidd Karma · 04-06-2011, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

I guess I can let the cat out of the bag now:

Tonight is my last night at Mavs Moneyball. On Friday night I will be joining Mavs.com
I'll be working alongside Earl K. Sneed.

Congrats, keep up the good work!!

BGMaverick9 · 04-06-2011, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

Dude that's freaking awesome. Congrats. LJ hasn't wasted any time trying to replace you I see.

Yeah, I noticed that but oh well.

Rhylan · 04-06-2011, 07:12 PM

I don't see how getting MacMahon out of the locker room would change the content at all. All he has to do is give credit for quotes gathered by someone else, or ESPN Dallas sends in a dry-assed beat writer to do a game story and Tim does a column every couple days using that guy's quotes. Either way, result is the same.

Only difference is Cuban doesn't have to see the guy. Which might be enough for him.

monty55555 · 04-06-2011, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

I guess I can let the cat out of the bag now:

Tonight is my last night at Mavs Moneyball. On Friday night I will be joining Mavs.com
I'll be working alongside Earl K. Sneed.

Congratulations BG! You deserve it.

Whenever I find the time to read articles about the Mavs, I always try to find the ones which you have written.

Thank you for all your hard work and input. This forum is very fortunate to have you.

Again, congratulations! I'm looking forward to reading more of your work.

BGMaverick9 · 04-06-2011, 07:21 PM

Thanks to everyone for the kind words.

It's a rather crazy story on how all of this came about.

LonghornDub · 04-06-2011, 07:23 PM

BG's new job makes this all a nonissue anyway. He's going to singlehandedly render all outside Mavs coverage obsolete within the next 4-6 months.

jthig32 · 04-06-2011, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

Thanks to everyone for the kind words.

It's a rather crazy story on how all of this came about.

Is this what your cryptic tweet about a great phone call was concerning?

jthig32 · 04-06-2011, 07:27 PM

BTW, here's a good article on the media topic.

BGMaverick9 · 04-06-2011, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

Is this what your cryptic tweet about a great phone call was concerning?

Nope, this week has just been a GOOD week for me haha.

I'll explain it all tomorrow.

Underdog · 04-06-2011, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

Nope, this week has just been a GOOD week for me haha.

I'll explain it all tomorrow.

Yes, explanation needed WITH pictures (especially if they're NSFW...)

BGMaverick9 · 04-06-2011, 08:43 PM

You'll have to help me out with what NSFW means.

chumdawg · 04-06-2011, 08:58 PM

Too cool, Bryan. What a great story. A self-made Mavs reporter! Much, much congrats.

And in a little while, we will all be able to say "I knew him when...".

LonghornDub · 04-06-2011, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

You'll have to help me out with what NSFW means.

Not Safe For Work. I.e.--don't open this picture up in your cube/office.

BGMaverick9 · 04-07-2011, 12:40 AM

Oh... haha.

Yeah, there won't be any of that.

BGMaverick9 · 04-07-2011, 12:41 AM

Oh... haha.

Yeah, there won't be any of that.

LonghornDub · 04-07-2011, 11:52 AM

After thinking about this some more during my run last night, I think my initial skepticism was wrong. I agree with Rhylan and thig now--if done correctly, Cuban could effectively remove the "paid bloggers" from the locker room and not lose much, if anything, in terms of coverage for the people who care.

I still don't really understand why he had to come at it like this and make it all personal ("Stop complaining! We win 50 games every year!" etc.), but I think the model in theory could definitely work.

kg_veteran · 04-07-2011, 12:03 PM

BG - Congrats, man! Well-deserved. I agree with chum.

Are you going to continue to slum here at d-m.com?

BGMaverick9 · 04-07-2011, 01:33 PM

Here's the story (as brief as I can make it):

As it has been mentioned, Mark Cuban had a "town hall" as I called it with the members of the media who were present on Wednesday afternoon. This wasn't the sole intention of the meeting. He was promoting a new phone application called Augmented Reality. The app looks really cool and is the tip of the iceberg when it comes to what it actually become. After being asked several questions in regards to his blog, he decided to speak more on the issue after the initial conference was over. It mainly consisted of various members of the media.

As Rhylan mentioned earlier, he took offense to some of the banner comments on MMB and other things he has seen along the way...much of which I mentioned on twitter yesterday.

Clearly, he did not like those "messages" and he went ahead and had me voice those messages in front of the rest of the media and He said see, and then I quickly replied that:
I am just a writer for the site, not the manager. I've spoken to the manager on several occasions and voiced my opinion that those probably weren't the best ideas in terms of a banner. All I can do is voice my opinion but she is the boss.

Cuban understood my point of view. After the discussion is over I go up and continue to state my case about the situation. He respects my side of the story and decides to tell me to send him an email and a discussion can begin for an opportunity. We exchange a few emails within the span of 30 minutes and I end up having a chat with personnel prior to the game and I'm officially brought on board with Mavs.com

Anyways...I'll be freelancing with Earl over the duration of the season/playoffs. If everything goes well, the spot will become permanent and paying going into next season.

*Roll credits*

b_o_r · 04-07-2011, 01:43 PM

IDK, BG. I think you should have kept that town-hall meeting part secret. Mark comes off as a spoiled child or a over protective parent to 30+ year old men. I don't mind his insistence that writers who work for the team to put a positive spin on a tumultuous time, but free lancers should be able to call it like they see it.

Underdog · 04-07-2011, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by b_o_r

IDK, BG. I think you should have kept that town-hall meeting part secret. Mark comes off as a spoiled child or a over protective parent to 30+ year old men. I don't mind his insistence that writers who work for the team to put a positive spin on a tumultuous time, but free lancers should be able to call it like they see it.

That's the problem though, not all writers call it like they see it - some call it like they imagine it (or at least that seems to be the point that Cuban is trying to make...)

Underdog · 04-07-2011, 01:54 PM

Oh, and congrats BG - Cuban must see something he likes in you (I think it's probably those chiseled good looks...)

BGMaverick9 · 04-07-2011, 01:54 PM

And yes...I plan to still be a slum resident here on the board lol.

BGMaverick9 · 04-07-2011, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

Oh, and congrats BG - Cuban must see something he likes in you (I think it's probably those chiseled good looks...)

Definitely not the looks...I've got the face for radio if you know what I mean.

Thanks

Underdog · 04-07-2011, 01:56 PM

What about the Outsider Report?

Are you and Rhylan going to keep doing that, or will you be too busy?

BGMaverick9 · 04-07-2011, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

What about the Outsider Report?

Are you and Rhylan going to keep doing that, or will you be too busy?

I'm in the process of trying to figure out what will happen with that. Thursday's special show (which everyone needs to go to) is still happening. As soon as I get more information on that, I'll be sure to let everyone know.

b_o_r · 04-07-2011, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

That's the problem though, not all writers call it like they see it - some call it like they imagine it (or at least that seems to be the point that Cuban is trying to make...)

Then call them out individually. Why confront BG, Sefko, Stein, or Caplan when they have offered nothing less than balanced pieces.

LonghornDub · 04-07-2011, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by b_o_r

IDK, BG. I think you should have kept that town-hall meeting part secret. .

What are you talking about? It was very not secret. Several media members had written/tweeted about it yesterday. Town-hall meetings are the very opposite of secret.

Underdog · 04-07-2011, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by b_o_r

Then call them out individually. Why confront BG, Sefko, Stein, or Caplan when they have offered nothing less than balanced pieces.

I don't get the impression that he was calling them out at all... Without naming names, Cuban made some pretty clear delineations about the type of writers he was referring to - BG, Sefko, Stein and Caplan didn't fit the description.

Kidd Karma · 04-07-2011, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

Here's the story (as brief as I can make it):

As it has been mentioned, Mark Cuban had a "town hall" as I called it with the members of the media who were present on Wednesday afternoon. This wasn't the sole intention of the meeting. He was promoting a new phone application called Augmented Reality. The app looks really cool and is the tip of the iceberg when it comes to what it actually become. After being asked several questions in regards to his blog, he decided to speak more on the issue after the initial conference was over. It mainly consisted of various members of the media.

As Rhylan mentioned earlier, he took offense to some of the banner comments on MMB and other things he has seen along the way...much of which I mentioned on twitter yesterday.

Clearly, he did not like those "messages" and he went ahead and had me voice those messages in front of the rest of the media and He said see, and then I quickly replied that:
I am just a writer for the site, not the manager. I've spoken to the manager on several occasions and voiced my opinion that those probably weren't the best ideas in terms of a banner. All I can do is voice my opinion but she is the boss.

Cuban understood my point of view. After the discussion is over I go up and continue to state my case about the situation. He respects my side of the story and decides to tell me to send him an email and a discussion can begin for an opportunity. We exchange a few emails within the span of 30 minutes and I end up having a chat with personnel prior to the game and I'm officially brought on board with Mavs.com

Anyways...I'll be freelancing with Earl over the duration of the season/playoffs. If everything goes well, the spot will become permanent and paying going into next season.

*Roll credits*

Nice stuff, again congrats. Just remember how Peja came out of left field and how ugly the Kidd trade came out. Nice and clean, versus under the gun. I think it hurt the teams from doing business, when you have a man with a family being tossed around the trade board as going to so and so destination, then agents get involved and it turns ugly. Imagine how Tyson felt about the OK City deal.

BGMaverick9 · 04-07-2011, 02:45 PM

*cue Rhylan's Breaking News drop*

MOR is in NO danger going forward. I've been told that the show has been well-received within the Mavs organization, so we're good.

The pressure is now on not to suck

Rhylan · 04-07-2011, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

What are you talking about? It was very not secret. Several media members had written/tweeted about it yesterday. Town-hall meetings are the very opposite of secret.

Galloway even played some of the audio.. bits and pieces where Cubes mentioned that Galloway shows up every 7 years and still has an opinion (thus not requiring locker room access).. and Steve Dennis debating Cuban. Interesting stuff.

BGMaverick9 · 04-07-2011, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhylan

Galloway even played some of the audio.. bits and pieces where Cubes mentioned that Galloway shows up every 7 years and still has an opinion (thus not requiring locker room access).. and Steve Dennis debating Cuban. Interesting stuff.

I wish it was a little more formal because I recorded it but I was a little too far away for it to be as audible as my usual stuff.

Rhylan · 04-07-2011, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

*cue Rhylan's Breaking News drop*

MOR is in NO danger going forward. I've been told that the show has been well-received within the Mavs organization, so we're good.

The pressure is now on not to suck

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