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Old 07-03-2012, 03:10 PM   #4281
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WTF?we have only Dirk now!Mark tell us what is going on?
Need a video of a lonely guy on a guitar playing a parody of "All You Need is Love."

All you need is Dirk, Dirk, Dirk is all you need.
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Deron is just waiting for nets to trade for dwight. We wont hear anything until late tomorrow. Hopefully dwight lands in LA or somewhere else.
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Need a video of a lonely guy on a guitar playing a parody of "All You Need is Love."

All you need is Dirk, Dirk, Dirk is all you need.
yes I need Dirk but the Mavericks needs another All-star guy
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Deron is just waiting for nets to trade for dwight. We wont hear anything until late tomorrow. Hopefully dwight lands in LA or somewhere else.
Is it even possible for them to trade for Dwight at this point?
They just used MLE and traded for Evans
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I thought JET would get a 7 to 8 million dollar deal. To get him for the mid-level is a nice bargain for the Celtics.
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The man is really old. 3 years at 5 per is reasonable. He will be barely serviceable in year 3 (38 years old).
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Is it even possible for them to trade for Dwight at this point?
They just used MLE and traded for Evans
Unless I'm completely missing something (and DLord and other very smart cap people also) they can't trade for Dwight at this point unless they reneg on at least one deal they've already agreed to.
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Old 07-03-2012, 03:41 PM   #4288
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Is it even possible for them to trade for Dwight at this point?
They just used MLE and traded for Evans
I have no idea how they could possibly trade for Dwight with their hard cap, and it's even less likely if Orlando really wants somebody to take on JRich or Hedo.

Unless Deron agrees to take like $6M under max for this year (which would affect later years too since you can only backload so much), it seems pretty much impossible. Maybe thig can chime in.
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Nets get Reggie Evans via SnT. They are rushing like they have Deron on the cusp.
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Dirk and four guys named Broderick.

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The man is really old. 3 years at 5 per is reasonable. He will be barely serviceable in year 3 (38 years old).
JET keeps himself in superb shape. He'll be able to play at a pretty high level through out this contract. The problem here is that Dallas has been leaning too much on JET due to not having any other guys to carry the load. In a more limited role JET at 5 million is a bargain.
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JET keeps himself in superb shape. He'll be able to play at a pretty high level through out this contract. The problem here is that Dallas has been leaning too much on JET due to not having any other guys to carry the load. In a more limited role JET at 5 million is a bargain.
That doesn't really track logically. The more reduced role, the less he's worth.

There's no role currently available that makes Jet a "bargain" at 5 Mil. I think it's a fair value for this year, maybe next.

But the first part of your statement is very correct. The Mavs are in a position that they need to acquire dynamic talent. They can't chew up their cap for multiple years for complimentary pieces.
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In a more limited role JET at 5 million is a bargain.
Jet is valuable when he takes (and makes) many shots. I fear "limited role" does not work with him.

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Nets get Reggie Evans via SnT. They are rushing like they have Deron on the cusp.
What is Reggie Evans going to do?

I'm not sure what they are doing...
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Is this good or bad?

For those that don't know who Jerrance Howard is, just Google it. I don't feel like explaining it.

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Deron is just waiting for nets to trade for dwight. We wont hear anything until late tomorrow. Hopefully dwight lands in LA or somewhere else.
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JET keeps himself in superb shape. He'll be able to play at a pretty high level through out this contract. The problem here is that Dallas has been leaning too much on JET due to not having any other guys to carry the load. In a more limited role JET at 5 million is a bargain.
I think he'll still be in 6th man of the year contention next year and still be a solid scorer the following year but at 37, it's hard to see him being anything but an outside spot up shooter at 15 minutes per game. Ray is another guy who has been awesome in his conditioning but the upper 30s is a rare place for an undersized shooting guard to play well.

I hope he plays well though. He deserves this deal.
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Is this good or bad?

For those that don't know who Jerrance Howard is, just Google it. I don't feel like explaining it.
SMU Coach.... What does that have to do with anything?
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For those that don't know who Jerrance Howard is, just Google it. I don't feel like explaining it.
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SMU Coach.... What does that have to do with anything?
He's one of Deron Williams' best friends, and he has tweeted at least once before regarding DWill's free agency.
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SMU Coach.... What does that have to do with anything?
He played at Illinois with Deron and coached in Illinois according to what I found
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For those that don't know who Jerrance Howard is, just Google it. I don't feel like explaining it.
Sounds like something someone says in semi-exasperation, not in celebration

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Deron is just waiting for nets to trade for dwight. We wont hear anything until late tomorrow. Hopefully dwight lands in LA or somewhere else.
It's technically impossible for the Nets to trade for Howard now.
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Sounds like something someone says in semi-exasperation, not in celebration
I tend to agree.

No guarantee that he's even referencing Deron, of course. But it feels foreboding to me.
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Im reading all of this as Deron's staying in NY but knows he's letting a lot of people down
in Dallas and is struggling to them so.

I think they(Deron, Wife, agent) chose $ and NY
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Which stance did he take - Brooklyn or Dallas?
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Sounds like something someone says in semi-exasperation, not in celebration
I would agree if it was "did my part..." but it's "did my part!!!!"

I really need to get some work done today.
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Which stance did he take - Brooklyn or Dallas?
He wants him to come to Dallas.
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Is this good or bad?

For those that don't know who Jerrance Howard is, just Google it. I don't feel like explaining it.
Gotta think it's good, at least in effort if not result.

I.e.--Doesn't mean Deron is coming here, but it sounds like he definitely talked to him about why it'd be a good idea.
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I tend to agree.

No guarantee that he's even referencing Deron, of course. But it feels foreboding to me.
True- he could simply be referencing the tasty tofu jambalaya he brought to the vegan potluck
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He wants him to come to Dallas.
It doesn't seem like you can tell what Deron is thinking from that.
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I don't see the exasperation at all. Of course, it's incredibly difficult to parse out a few words on the internet with no tone, but "!!!!" certainly doesn't read like an exasperated person. Sounds like somebody who's excited that he got to contribute to the cause.
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It doesn't seem like you can tell what Deron is thinking from that.
It's very vague, yes. But I read it as, "I did my best, but couldn't convince him".

But I'm a pessimist by trade.
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It's very vague, yes. But I read it as, "I did my best, but couldn't convince him".

But I'm a pessimist by trade.
It probably doesn't even pertain to Deron... you're worse than the media at over-speculation!
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I don't see the exasperation at all. Of course, it's incredibly difficult to parse out a few words on the internet with no tone, but "!!!!" certainly doesn't read like an exasperated person. Sounds like somebody who's excited that he got to contribute to the cause.
That's what I'm thinking. I did my part, now we just have to wait and see.
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It probably doesn't even pertain to Deron... you're worse than the media at over-speculation!
I freely admit that it could be completely unrelated. I'm just trying to find something to interpret, one way or the other.
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I would agree if it was "did my part..." but it's "did my part!!!!"

I really need to get some work done today.
but what if it had read "did my/part" or "did my part?"
I think I'm becoming delirious.
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I'm cool with it, frankly. At this point, I'm just glad to know that Deron is obviously seriously mulling it over. If he ultimately chooses the Nets, I think that's the bad basketball choice, but so be it.
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It's very vague, yes. But I read it as, "I did my best, but couldn't convince him".

But I'm a pessimist by trade.
I read it the same way.
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Adam Morrison is back, will play for Nets in Summer League

So, when do the Nets start looking desperate?
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