02-08-2022, 11:58 AM
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Lol things could be worse, we could be Blazers fans...what a shit job by the FO there.
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02-08-2022, 12:22 PM
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I keep reading the Mavs have a shot for Jerami Grant if they include Brunson.
Curious to know how other fans feel about that situation.
I personally would pull the trigger because Grant is legit 2 way stud.
Obviously losing Brunson puts more weight on Luka's shoulders but I think the mavs could make smaller deal for Kemba Walker or Dragic via buyout later to get a secondary ballhandler to replace JB.
Defense is solid for Dallas but I could only imagine how awesome it would be with KP, Grant, DFS and Bullock all in the starting lineup with Luka.
Grant is also capable of creating for himself on offense
I think that lineup could really matchup with Phoenix and Golden St much better in the playoffs
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02-08-2022, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Dallas41
I keep reading the Mavs have a shot for Jerami Grant if they include Brunson.
Curious to know how other fans feel about that situation.
I personally would pull the trigger because Grant is legit 2 way stud.
Obviously losing Brunson puts more weight on Luka's shoulders but I think the mavs could make smaller deal for Kemba Walker or Dragic via buyout later to get a secondary ballhandler to replace JB.
Defense is solid for Dallas but I could only imagine how awesome it would be with KP, Grant, DFS and Bullock all in the starting lineup with Luka.
Grant is also capable of creating for himself on offense
I think that lineup could really matchup with Phoenix and Golden St much better in the playoffs
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Since we're dealing in hypotheticals and I have no real say in the matter, my only hangup is Grant thinking he's a 1A. His efficiency fell off once he got to Detroit. As a player I think he makes sense here. But is he willing to be a 3 is the burning question.
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02-08-2022, 12:29 PM
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A future first and two future seconds. NO also gets Nance jr, so you can cross him off the wishlist.
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Damnit Nance would have been a great piece here
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02-08-2022, 12:33 PM
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Damnit Nance would have been a great piece here
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Can Nance still be flipped for our TE? Or if the trade is official does a certain amount of time have to pass before he can be traded again?
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02-08-2022, 12:42 PM
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Final trade details
Adrian Wojnarowski: Full trade, per sources: Blazers: Josh Hart, Tomas Satoransky, Nickeil Walker-Alexander, Didi Louzada, 2022 protected first-round pick, two second-round picks. Pelicans: CJ McCollum, Larry Nance, Tony Snell. 17 mins ago – via Twitter wojespn
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If you are not moving forward, then you are falling (further) behind. Mavs FO needs to wake up. Blazers' garage sale helped two Western conference competitors. But we like our team. Bunch of cool dudes.
Perhaps it is time to consider moving KP? His trade value has surely improved and I have little confidence he will be healthy in the playoffs. Mavs are winning without him. Depending on what he is worth, it might be worth shopping around as we approach the deadline.
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02-08-2022, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by purplefrog
If you are not moving forward, then you are falling (further) behind. Mavs FO needs to wake up. Blazers' garage sale helped two Western conference competitors. But we like our team. Bunch of cool dudes.
Perhaps it is time to consider moving KP? His trade value has surely improved and I have little confidence he will be healthy in the playoffs. Mavs are winning without him. Depending on what he is worth, it might be worth shopping around as we approach the deadline.
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Has it improved though? He’s already missed 20+ games this season. Im not opposed to moving him for the right piece, but I don’t think you’re getting a star player for him.
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02-08-2022, 01:12 PM
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The big question is whether the Mavs would make the trades even if they had the ammunition. I mean, I feel like they have two really good trade pieces in DFS and Brunson, but they just aren't willing to move them.
I personally wouldn't move Brunson at this point as he and Luka work great together as starters. They both take pressure off of each other, esp Brunson for Luka. I mean, Luka is playing the best basketball of his career in the last 10 games or so. Brunson is that secondary ball handler we so needed. Can't just trade that willy nilly.
DFS I'd move in the right deal, but I don't know if he has the same trade worth. But if DFS/Powel/ way in the future first is on the table for Jerami Grant, then you have to take it.
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02-08-2022, 01:37 PM
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Wow Sabonis for Halliburton...I can't believe the Kings gave up on him so early.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1491116804848033793
Interesting that Tyrese is going to play for Rick. I remember the Mavs tried to move up to get him.
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02-08-2022, 01:48 PM
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That should officially close the door on any Brunson to Pacers/Turner to Mavs talk.
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02-08-2022, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
The big question is whether the Mavs would make the trades even if they had the ammunition. I mean, I feel like they have two really good trade pieces in DFS and Brunson, but they just aren't willing to move them.
I personally wouldn't move Brunson at this point as he and Luka work great together as starters. They both take pressure off of each other, esp Brunson for Luka. I mean, Luka is playing the best basketball of his career in the last 10 games or so. Brunson is that secondary ball handler we so needed. Can't just trade that willy nilly.
DFS I'd move in the right deal, but I don't know if he has the same trade worth. But if DFS/Powel/ way in the future first is on the table for Jerami Grant, then you have to take it.
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I’d move Brunson, but only if it was a deal too good to pass up. Like you said him and Luka play well together. I just hope it doesn’t come back to bite us in the ass this summer if he goes chasing money if another team offers him more.
I’d move DFS for the right deal. Hopefully the deal includes Powell just to get his contact off the books.
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02-08-2022, 01:56 PM
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Adrian Wojnarowski: The Pacers are trading Domas Sabonis, Jeremy Lamb and Justin Holiday to Sacramento for Tyrese Hailburton, Buddy Hield and Tristan Thompson, sources tell ESPN. – via Twitter wojespn
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02-08-2022, 02:06 PM
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Adrian Wojnarowski: The Pacers are trading Domas Sabonis, Jeremy Lamb and Justin Holiday to Sacramento for Tyrese Hailburton, Buddy Hield and Tristan Thompson, sources tell ESPN. – via Twitter wojespn
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Damn...
Go get Holmes
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02-08-2022, 02:23 PM
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Go get Holmes
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100 percent. Holmes would be a very nice addition depending on what it would take to get him. I don’t see Sabonis and Holmes an ideal match offensively
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02-08-2022, 02:31 PM
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I’m surprised the Kings gave up on Halliburton so quick. Figured they would try and move Fox first. Does the TE and a future first get you Holmes? I think the pick wouldn’t be until like 2027
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02-08-2022, 02:42 PM
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I mean, Sabonis isn't a slouch either. He is one of the best big men in the game, but I feel his game is for a different era of basketball.
It's a fair trade on paper, but Sacramento has a poor history with the wrong moves. I guess their faith in Mitchell put them over the edge.
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02-08-2022, 02:46 PM
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Holmes for the trade exception works. Holmes for Kleber and a 2nd?
If I’m the Mavs you gotta full court press this. He’s an ideal fit with Luka and KP
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02-08-2022, 02:52 PM
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Intersting trade suggestion I read..
Dallas Mavericks Receive: PG Kemba Walker, G/F Evan Fournier
New York Knicks Receive: C Dwight Powell, SG Sterling Brown, 2022 second-round pick
For a Mavs team that's sported a top-five defense this season, it's time to add some offensive weapons around Luka Doncic.
With Tim Hardaway Jr. now sidelined following surgery to correct a broken foot, Dallas should be interested in providing the Knicks with some salary relief and draft equity by taking on both Walker and Fournier.
The Mavs can absorb Walker into their $10.8 million trade exception, giving this roster a third playmaker outside Doncic and Jalen Brunson. He'd be a good sixth man, able to step in and run the offense while knocking down threes at a high level. If Brunson leaves as a free agent this offseason, Walker will still be back on an expiring $9.2 million deal.
Fournier is owed $36.9 million over the next two years with a $19 million team option for 2024-25. Following a slow start to his Knicks tenure, the 29-year-old is averaging 17.5 points and shooting 48.2 percent from three over his last 14 games. With Hardaway out, Fournier gives Dallas another shot-maker on the wing.
This is essentially a salary dump for the Knicks, who save $11.7 million this season and get a good veteran center in Powell—one they may need with Mitchell Robinson hitting free agency this summer. With Fournier out, Cam Reddish now has a runway to becoming the team's starting small forward.
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02-08-2022, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Dallas41
Intersting trade suggestion I read..
Dallas Mavericks Receive: PG Kemba Walker, G/F Evan Fournier
New York Knicks Receive: C Dwight Powell, SG Sterling Brown, 2022 second-round pick
For a Mavs team that's sported a top-five defense this season, it's time to add some offensive weapons around Luka Doncic.
With Tim Hardaway Jr. now sidelined following surgery to correct a broken foot, Dallas should be interested in providing the Knicks with some salary relief and draft equity by taking on both Walker and Fournier.
The Mavs can absorb Walker into their $10.8 million trade exception, giving this roster a third playmaker outside Doncic and Jalen Brunson. He'd be a good sixth man, able to step in and run the offense while knocking down threes at a high level. If Brunson leaves as a free agent this offseason, Walker will still be back on an expiring $9.2 million deal.
Fournier is owed $36.9 million over the next two years with a $19 million team option for 2024-25. Following a slow start to his Knicks tenure, the 29-year-old is averaging 17.5 points and shooting 48.2 percent from three over his last 14 games. With Hardaway out, Fournier gives Dallas another shot-maker on the wing.
This is essentially a salary dump for the Knicks, who save $11.7 million this season and get a good veteran center in Powell—one they may need with Mitchell Robinson hitting free agency this summer. With Fournier out, Cam Reddish now has a runway to becoming the team's starting small forward.
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I don't think the Mavs do that. I honestly to god think Powell is off limits unless the deal is ridiculously in their favor. Ie. Jerami Grant type of player.
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02-08-2022, 03:17 PM
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I wouldn't hate that trade with the Knicks, but it would be kinda meh if it was the only deal.
I'd rather somehow get Grant or Holmes all the while somehow keeping Brunson.
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02-08-2022, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by twistaeffect2004
Holmes for the trade exception works. Holmes for Kleber and a 2nd?
If I’m the Mavs you gotta full court press this. He’s an ideal fit with Luka and KP
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It appears they don't want a center anymore. Looks like the Mavs are focused more on a stretch 4 player.
Living up to the website name, Moore provides more action on the "sources" front, providing more insight into what the Mavs are seeking at the trade deadline. According to Moore, Dallas is hunting for a stretch four who can play alongside Kristaps Porzingis.
Although John Collins dominates the rumor wave, Charlotte Hornets frontcourt option PJ Washington is ringing bells. The real answer is will someone ring Harrison's bell?
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02-08-2022, 03:38 PM
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Cuban is big dummy. You can’t sign Brunson to 20 million a year. Trade your players. There is no loyalty in sports. Current team is mediocre- make a move!!!!
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02-08-2022, 04:35 PM
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Dang what do they have left? Draft picks?
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02-08-2022, 05:25 PM
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Only things guaranteed in life are death, taxes, and the Mavs make no substantive moves at the trade deadline.
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02-08-2022, 06:06 PM
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According to Jake Fischer, Mavs were in at the 11th hours on getting Chris Levert for THJ and a pick.
If true, at least we tried.
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02-08-2022, 06:33 PM
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According to Jake Fischer, Mavs were in at the 11th hours on getting Chris Levert for THJ and a pick.
If true, at least we tried.
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Not a big LeVert fan but I would’ve loved that trade.
Obviously the Mavs are trying to land a significant piece without giving up Brunson or DFS, which I commend, I just don’t know if it’s feasible as possible candidates dwindle.
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02-08-2022, 06:41 PM
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Fournier and Kemba would be blah, yuck. They both have practically negative value Unless they want to add Grimes or a 1st rd. Pick. I guess Fournier expires a year earlier than THJ so there’s that.
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02-08-2022, 06:43 PM
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Not a big LeVert fan but I would’ve loved that trade.
Obviously the Mavs are trying to land a significant piece without giving up Brunson or DFS, which I commend, I just don’t know if it’s feasible as possible candidates dwindle.
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I’m not a huge fan either but he can create and get buckets and we desperately need another guy like that if we are going to make any playoff noise.
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02-08-2022, 07:06 PM
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I’m not a huge fan either but he can create and get buckets and we desperately need another guy like that if we are going to make any playoff noise.
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We are going to make playoff noise, just not the pleasant kind of noise... During all 4 games. Then they golf.
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02-08-2022, 07:14 PM
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See, the risk is if we go past the deadline and start losing. That would be a disaster. Or losing in the first round again. Gonna re-up DFS and Brunson to as much as they want after another playoff disaster?
It's a big risk. Again, I wouldn't trade Brunson, but DFS shouldn't be off the table and yet I think he is.
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02-08-2022, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
According to Jake Fischer, Mavs were in at the 11th hours on getting Chris Levert for THJ and a pick.
If true, at least we tried.
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Seems like every recent trade deadline over the last 5-6 years there's always a report saying the mavs were in it for someone but they just barely came up short.
Same thing with FA
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02-08-2022, 07:21 PM
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See, the risk is if we go past the deadline and start losing. That would be a disaster. Or losing in the first round again. Gonna re-up DFS and Brunson to as much as they want after another playoff disaster?
It's a big risk. Again, I wouldn't trade Brunson, but DFS shouldn't be off the table and yet I think he is.
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Yea. So what we've been pining over all season, especially once JB solidified himself. FO has seen this coming down the tracks too.
If it goes down the way you mentioned which has a higher chance than not, there's no way for the FO to justify them both peacing out for nothing.
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02-08-2022, 07:26 PM
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You’re telling me that for Horton Tucker and a draft pick you can get Josh Richardson?
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02-08-2022, 07:27 PM
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According to Jake Fischer, Mavs were in at the 11th hours on getting Chris Levert for THJ and a pick.
If true, at least we tried.
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Mavs are always “almost” there in trades….
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02-08-2022, 07:37 PM
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https://twitter.com/TheLaurenGunn/st...7vpGiZcwQ&s=19
"I know I did not just overhear a trade that has not been announced yet…"
Is Lauren Gunn Plugged in or around anyone who would know about unannounced trades for the Mavs?
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02-08-2022, 07:54 PM
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According to Jake Fischer, Mavs were in at the 11th hours on getting Chris Levert for THJ and a pick.
If true, at least we tried.
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That would have been amazing. Caris LeVert would have been my main target if I had known he could be gotten so easily. It actually gives me some faith that they were pursuing him.
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02-08-2022, 07:56 PM
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What a tease. She's gonna get a lot of shit if that doesn't happen or it doesn't involve the Mavs.
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02-08-2022, 08:06 PM
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She’s at the game, but there has been no news of any players being out, and the starting lineup is already in.
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02-08-2022, 08:20 PM
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What a tease. She's gonna get a lot of shit if that doesn't happen or it doesn't involve the Mavs.
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As she should. I've been impressed by her reporting/insights in her podcast appearances, but that is pretty low rate if she can't point back to a completed Mavs trade.
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