07-07-2009, 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
If thats true, it really explains why we picked up Ross-- we wanted to secure a nice backup SG before shipping Wright off. Its unusual otherwise to be in such a hurry to secure a bench player, but it makes sense that the braintrust wanted to get some security before playing musical chairs.
Terry/Wright/Ross/Carroll/Stack
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That's one way of looking at it, and it may be true. But I expect that in our new incarnation Ross may have been the guy over Wright at any rate. I don't think there was necessarily any urgency beyond "that's the guy we like," when it comes to trades. In other words, if Wright is still here next year (and he very well still may be), I think it was a shift in direction.
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07-07-2009, 11:51 PM
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I like the move...makes us an even better rebounding team and way longer.
And lets never forget the significance of Marion's REP as a top tier defender...I'll take a guy who has a great rep on defense over an unproven player who is a stud.
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07-07-2009, 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by chumdawg
BG better be right!
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Originally Posted by LonghornDub
Yeah BG. Our friendship is over if you're wrong on this one.
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dirty, dirty, dirty!
What's being said though makes sense if you believe the potential ideas:
-Apparently the brass thinks Barea is better suited as a SG, Banks can fill in as the PG then (if the guy can stay healthy)
-Ross is relatively decent insurance as a Wright-like guy, so it makes him more expendable.
-Also, we might have had some hard luck trying to find a 3rd team to help play ball...we probably would've rather had Humphries (I would have at least), but BC in Toronto said, it's Banks or you better keep looking for a 3rd team.
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07-07-2009, 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9
from another board:
A source at CBS sports reported to me via email that the Raptors and Mavs have agreed in principle to trade the following assets:
Stackhouse+2M+Wright+2nd in exchange for Marion+Banks
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I'd honestly rather it be Humphries instead of Banks...unless we're planning on shipping off Banks on the turnaround or Barea.
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Buscher is sure the smart one , now go try to get Barnes for the LLE and I am happy with off season, even if JHO starts at 2 (though I am admittedly not in love with the idea)>
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07-07-2009, 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9
dirty, dirty, dirty!
What's being said though makes sense if you believe the potential ideas:
-Apparently the brass thinks Barea is better suited as a SG, Banks can fill in as the PG then (if the guy can stay healthy)
-Ross is relatively decent insurance as a Wright-like guy, so it makes him more expendable.
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I don't care what makes sense! I care about legitimate reports!!
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07-07-2009, 11:56 PM
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lol damn just realized both marion and banks have been moved around together since their phoenix days.
Suns to Heat to Raptor and now possibly to Mavs. Both UNLC alumns too, weird :P
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07-07-2009, 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by chumdawg
I don't care what makes sense! I care about legitimate reports!!
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True...I just feel better that it seems like this is done, we just need to get it wrapped up. It'd be tough to see a deal close to being finalized and having it die off....ask Portland how they feel about Hedo now.
Although, I wouldn't hurt as much if Plan B ended up kicking the crap out of this deal.
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07-07-2009, 11:58 PM
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I like to read the player profiles from Hoopscrap:
"Very aggressive... Excellent defender on the ball... A steal waiting to happen... Good quickness... Decent spot shooter... Shot off the dribble needs work... Not the best playmaker in the world... Does not always make the good decisions... Turnover prone."
Well, maybe we have our guy to annoy Parker and Paul for some minutes until Boobie is ready. And u never know, maybe Kidd can fix him a little bit
Kidd/Barea/Banks
Josh/Terry/Ross/Carroll
Marion/Josh/Singleton
Dirk/Marion
Damp/Gortat
+Barnes/Quis/Diogu etc...
Nice one
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07-08-2009, 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by LonghornDub
Mavs' new SG depth chart:
Howard, Barea, Terry, Barea, Barea, Barea, Ross, Barea, Carroll.
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Damn you, sir. Damn you.
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07-08-2009, 12:02 AM
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man is this an exciting offseason or what!?
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07-08-2009, 12:10 AM
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I haven't watched Banks play in years but he was a defensive demon his first couple of years.
Looks like his shooting went in the toilet last year. Not just from the field but from the line too. Strange.
If this report is accurate we'll be his 7th team in 7 years. And that doesn't even include Memphis who drafted him and traded him to Boston.
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I'd been looking at his defensive stats since word of the Marion pursuit broke. His second year in the league, in particular, he looked outstanding. Not so much since then. Hard to get a read on him. If he could be that guy that he was back in Boston that'd be great, because the Mavs could use a backup point with decent size and a solid defensive game given that they're probably going to have a couple point-guard sized guys getting minutes at backup SG.
Those are some horrid shooting numbers, although in his defense, he had a grand total of 57 fgas last year (19 from three), and 18 ftas, so the percentages aren't too damning.
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07-08-2009, 12:14 AM
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What do we do with Banks if Roddy absolutely shows out at Summer League? Although, if that's the case Banks could just hit the bench. That is an expensive bench warmer though. No matter what happens though you have to love the depth we are getting!
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07-08-2009, 12:15 AM
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Anyone thinks the Raptors might like Devean George just as much instead of Wright? After all, he knows how to win a ring...
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07-08-2009, 12:15 AM
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Its Boobie
You should change your nick to Boobie#3
@dalger: No, if Parker goes they can use Wright pretty good for the SG and to backup Hedo.
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07-08-2009, 12:16 AM
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BG also isn't allowed to post again for a week if he's wrong.
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07-08-2009, 12:19 AM
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BG also isn't allowed to post again for a week if he's wrong.
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considering this is basically my home away from home...that's sad.
We're in a recession!!! You're taking away my home!!!!!
As for Banks, if he's the guy...if the contract is what I've seen, it's not terrible by any means. The only part I wouldn't like is we've got a potentially awkward logjam at the PG spot that could trickle over to the SG position.
Who would've thought THAT would happen?
Oh wait, we'll have two centers who can play and possibly another who is a ball of energy???
WHAT?!?!
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07-08-2009, 12:19 AM
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You know, we can say what we want about our front office, but we've pretty much been the most active team in the NBA since free agency started.
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07-08-2009, 12:21 AM
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I'm getting pretty skeptical about this...
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07-08-2009, 12:22 AM
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I'm getting pretty skeptical about this...
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What's changed in the last 30 minutes?
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07-08-2009, 12:22 AM
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I'm getting pretty skeptical about this...
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"I wouldn't say I'm superstitious, I'm just a little-stitious."
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07-08-2009, 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by LonghornDub
What's changed in the last 30 minutes?
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I was thinking it was a done deal, and now I'm thinking it's not.
It's too good to be true, at any rate.
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07-08-2009, 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by chumdawg
I was thinking it was a done deal, and now I'm thinking it's not.
It's too good to be true, at any rate.
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Why? haha
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07-08-2009, 12:29 AM
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BG, where'd you see that purported scoop? Poking around on realgm and db.com and there's a poster there's who claimed a cbs source for a Marion/Humphries package, though he didn't give any other details. It all seems kinda sketchy.
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07-08-2009, 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by grndmstr_c
BG, where'd you see that purported scoop? Poking around on realgm and db.com and there's a poster there's who claimed a cbs source for a Marion/Humphries package, though he didn't give any other details. It all seems kinda sketchy.
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I'd have to look again, it was off RealGM.
I'll look and try to put it on here.
BTW...that would be a better idea that what would come from Banks I think, it makes more depth-chart sense at least.
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07-08-2009, 12:33 AM
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I'd have to look again, it was off RealGM.
I'll look and try to put it on here.
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Gimme a break.
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07-08-2009, 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by chumdawg
Gimme a break.
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Yeah, cause he's making it up.
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07-08-2009, 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by LonghornDub
What's changed in the last 30 minutes?
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Alcohol?
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07-08-2009, 12:38 AM
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Alcohol?
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An intriguing theory.
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07-08-2009, 12:39 AM
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Can kobe be coming to the mavs? (trolleeeen')
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07-08-2009, 12:39 AM
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The poster is a Toronto guy, EliteBaller (haha)
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A source at CBS sports reported to me via email that the Raptors and Mavs have agreed in principle to trade the following assets:
Stackhouse+2M+Wright+2nd in exchange for Marion+Banks
Salaries were not disclosed. Details will be made available to the public early tomorrow morning.
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07-08-2009, 12:39 AM
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Yeah, cause he's making it up.
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Roll eyes? Not saying he's making it up. He may have been deceived. There is nobody reporting this.
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07-08-2009, 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Flacolaco
Alcohol?
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Alcohol doesn't change...and you're stupid to suggest it.
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07-08-2009, 12:40 AM
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Gimme a break.
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break me off a piece..
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07-08-2009, 12:43 AM
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Alcohol?
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Alright, let me get this straight. This broke an hour ago from a "CBS" source, and there is still no mention of it...anywhere? And I'm the guy off by alcohol?
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07-08-2009, 12:44 AM
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The only way to get Humphries to work and preserve the 2 million dollar cushion for Toronto is if Marion's deal is starting out just under 6 million (Marion at ~6 plus Humphries for Stack), or if Dallas is sending a second player to a third team, permitting Marion's salary to go higher.
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07-08-2009, 12:44 AM
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Alright, let me get this straight. This broke an hour ago from a "CBS" source, and there is still no mention of it...anywhere? And I'm the guy off by alcohol?
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I've seen two different people use cbs as a source and they had two different things. One was the Banks one, another was Humphries like grndmstr_c mentioned.
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07-08-2009, 12:47 AM
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There is nothing to see here. Move along.
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07-08-2009, 12:48 AM
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Well, i still believe Bucher and im sure that Banks instead of Humphries isnt a deal breaker for Cuban or he would be really dump. Banks earns in 2 years 3 mio than Humphries, with luxury thats 6mio more for Cuban.
But again, you dont let that trade fail because of 6 mio if you name is Cuban.
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07-08-2009, 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9
The poster is a Toronto guy, EliteBaller (haha)
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Hmm, so one Dallas guy, one Toronto guy, each claiming to have a source from cbs indicating the trade is pretty much done, but with disagreement on the specifics. I'll be looking forward to some clarity tomorrow morning.
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07-08-2009, 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by chumdawg
There is nothing to see here. Move along.
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so you're not gonna share the Kit Kat?
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ok, we've talked about the problem of evil, and the extent of the atonement's application, but my real question to you is, "Could Jesus dunk?"
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