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jthig32 · 07-10-2009, 05:24 PM

Hmm...this Gortat guy sure does seem to be flip flopping. He can't decide what's going to happen.

joemoeschmoe · 07-10-2009, 05:28 PM

I've seen people mention BYC before, but wasn't sure it was relevant here until I looked it up (search link for BYC). Basically, if Orlando matches and trade Gortat before 6 months, they trade him as if his salary is 50% of his first year. So, about $3 million.

Another hit against matching.

joemoeschmoe · 07-10-2009, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

Hmm...this Gortat guy sure does seem to be flip flopping. He can't decide what's going to happen.

On the contrary, he wants to come here, but its not up to him anymore.

Mavsfan4ever · 07-10-2009, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

Hmm...this Gortat guy sure does seem to be flip flopping. He can't decide what's going to happen.

I think Gortat is just as nervous as us fans is his real problem.

Zki41 · 07-10-2009, 05:30 PM

If Orlando matches I hope the Lakers/Celtics/Cavaliers brutally destroy them in the playoffs.

jthig32 · 07-10-2009, 05:32 PM

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On the contrary, he wants to come here, but its not up to him anymore.

Yeah I wasn't saying he couldn't decide where he wanted to go. He just can't decide what he thinks is going to happen.

BGMaverick9 · 07-10-2009, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

Hmm...this Gortat guy sure does seem to be flip flopping. He can't decide what's going to happen.

He seems like he really doesn't have a clue what will happen, Otis is really doing a number. Gortat sounds like he wants to get out though, not openly referring to himself as part of the team over the whole course of the interview.

FreshJive · 07-10-2009, 05:32 PM

Would Houston trade for Gortat in 90 days with Dallas's contract? They didn't want to offer him the full MLE the first time around.

BGMaverick9 · 07-10-2009, 05:33 PM

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Would Houston trade for Gortat in 90 days with Dallas's contract? They didn't want to offer him the full MLE the first time around.

I dunno how their injury exemption works out...but I would definitely see that as a place he could wind up going if they trade him after the 90 days.

joemoeschmoe · 07-10-2009, 05:35 PM

Boy, matching and trading to Houston would be a double kick in the nuts. On the Magic boards, this appears to be what some people want Otis to do.

monty55555 · 07-10-2009, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

Hmm...this Gortat guy sure does seem to be flip flopping. He can't decide what's going to happen.

I think he is as confused as we are.

jthig32 · 07-10-2009, 05:38 PM

If Houston wanted Gortat for the full MLE they would have offered it to him. So now, after not offering it to him they're going to send assets to the Magic for him and his full MLE?

I don't think so.

The dude is coming here. Mark it.

FreshJive · 07-10-2009, 05:38 PM

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I dunno how their injury exemption works out...but I would definitely see that as a place he could wind up going if they trade him after the 90 days.

I just seems weird that they risked losing him in FA by not offering him the full money, but they would want to use an asset to aquire him a few months later.

BGMaverick9 · 07-10-2009, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

If Houston wanted Gortat for the full MLE they would have offered it to him. So now, after not offering it to him they're going to send assets to the Magic for him and his full MLE?

I don't think so.

The dude is coming here. Mark it.

2nd thoughts? They didn't have Ariza as a major option and look at what happened. It's possible...

I still think Otis is blowing smoke and Gortat comes here, it's just a pain hearing these different stories...just like the Kidd situation.

joemoeschmoe · 07-10-2009, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

If Houston wanted Gortat for the full MLE they would have offered it to him. So now, after not offering it to him they're going to send assets to the Magic for him and his full MLE?

I don't think so.

The dude is coming here. Mark it.

Great point. I didn't think of that. I really hope you're right. I just wish I didn't have to wait 5 #$%!ing days to find out.

EricaLubarsky · 07-10-2009, 05:44 PM

Gortat cant burn any bridges by saying "The mavericks are my dream job, get me outta Orlando" because he may very well end up back there.

Well I guess he could and it would work out well for us, but he's not some spoiled American NBA player like Kobe, Artest or T-Mac

eyedentifyme · 07-10-2009, 05:49 PM

If Orlando matches, Orlando management should be watching their backs on their way back home.

, ha ha ha.

darkwitzki · 07-10-2009, 05:50 PM

Otis will screw us so bad that we end up having nightmares and crying like babies..

Dirkenstien · 07-10-2009, 05:54 PM

I really don't want to hate Orlando but I'm positive I will if they match.

sefant77 · 07-10-2009, 05:56 PM

Orlando doesnt match to keep him because they would pay with LT over 10 mio each year for Gortat.

Houston doesnt want Gortat for the full MLE for sure. If they want now (i doubt) they have to send something what the Magic want (and for what they would have to pay also LT).

He is a Mav.

eyedentifyme · 07-10-2009, 06:03 PM

http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/...,2507682.story

" Smith said "it's a possibility" the Magic could match the Mavs' five-year, $34 million offer sheet for center Marcin Gortat and trade him later.

"It's a possibility, everything is open," he said. "We can't close the door or anything. As I said, it's a big chunk so you have to look ... if you want to get involved or not and how you're going to go from there." "

Hopefully, he is just saying the correct things as a GM should and that it doesn't actually happen.

mavsfan1000 · 07-10-2009, 06:06 PM

No doubt Orlando will match. The key to winning championships is eliminating your competition.

Mavsfan4ever · 07-10-2009, 06:10 PM

Otis would be a fool to pay that much for a backup.

grndmstr_c · 07-10-2009, 06:15 PM

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No doubt Orlando will match. The key to winning championships is eliminating your competition.

Brilliant analysis. The part I love most is where you explain how it's 100% certain that they're going to match, yet they've not done so yet.

eyedentifyme · 07-10-2009, 06:17 PM

If we do not get Gortat, we still have options, like having multiple guys playing the center position by committee with Damp/Hollins/Singleton/Nivins (24 fouls, make sure Hollins and Damp foul out 1st so Singleton can finish the game in the 4th quarters with his good free throw shooting).

Mavsfan4ever · 07-10-2009, 06:17 PM

In my opinion it would be a slap in the face to Gortat to match. It's holding down his career not to let him go some where that he can start.

Underdog · 07-10-2009, 06:31 PM

mavsfan1000 · 07-10-2009, 06:36 PM

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Brilliant analysis. The part I love most is where you explain how it's 100% certain that they're going to match, yet they've not done so yet.

You are talking about the team that was just in the NBA Finals. And having a backup is important for depth. Having junk for the bench will hurt you real quickly. Sacramento Kings without Bobby Jackson was a good example of a team struggling without depth. It also keeps your starters fresh for the playoffs. Orlando would be stupid not to match the offer. They have the cards so why not use them?

Simon2 · 07-10-2009, 06:36 PM

What about Camby? Is he still available? I might prefer him to Gortat since he's a vet. Don't know about his injury status though.

Thomas86 · 07-10-2009, 06:51 PM

I been prepared for something like this to happen that's why I didn't put Gortat on the Mavs in NBA Live yet, the Mavs let the Magic in the trade for Marion when they didn't need a 4th team and they also let Bass walk to the Magic and you mean to tell me the Magic GM would match that offer for a back up?....that would be a real b**** by the Magic if they match the offer only to trade Gortat months later.

uberfan · 07-10-2009, 06:58 PM

In this case, the BYC for Gortat would last until June 30, 2010 and not just six months.

So, if Orlando matches, they cannot trade him for 90 days, and then the BYC is still in play making it still a difficult trade.

If Orlando matches they will be keeping him for at least a year, I think.

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Originally Posted by joemoeschmoe

I've seen people mention BYC before, but wasn't sure it was relevant here until I looked it up (search link for BYC). Basically, if Orlando matches and trade Gortat before 6 months, they trade him as if his salary is 50% of his first year. So, about $3 million.

Another hit against matching.

darkwitzki · 07-10-2009, 07:05 PM

If Cubes is in Otis shoes, on a championship caliber team, definitely he will match it and give it another season, OR if Houston badly wants it, he could trade it for Battier and Landry etc.

grndmstr_c · 07-10-2009, 07:27 PM

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If Cubes is in Otis shoes, on a championship caliber team, definitely he will match it and give it another season, OR if Houston badly wants it, he could trade it for Battier and Landry etc.

You are aware that the Mavs declined to offer Bass MLE-level money, when doing so would have all but guaranteed that he stayed a Mav?

Mavsfan4ever · 07-10-2009, 07:32 PM

It's going to be a long five days especially with all the Debbie Downers posting how Orlando is going to match.

sefant77 · 07-10-2009, 07:35 PM

Bass signed the contract or can we still offer one too?

Mavsfan4ever · 07-10-2009, 07:37 PM

Bass was unrestricted that means he is now with the Magic.

sike · 07-10-2009, 07:40 PM

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It's going to be a long five days especially with all the Debbie Downers posting how Orlando is going to match.

Why would they offer to match when they just used that money on Bass?

I would also imagine that there were some words spoken between Otis and Donnie about the Gortot deal when the Marion deal was coming down.

Mavsfan4ever · 07-10-2009, 07:45 PM

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Why would they offer to match when they just used that money on Bass?

I would also imagine that there were some words spoken between Otis and Donnie about the Gortot deal when the Marion deal was coming down.

I ask the same question why would they match?

All I ask is that we as Mav's fans have a little more faith please don't be so pessimistic.

sike · 07-10-2009, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavsfan4ever

I ask the same question why would they match?

All I ask is that we as Mav's fans have a little more faith please don't be so pessimistic.

Well...we've earned that pessimism....or do you not remember 06?

Mavsfan4ever · 07-10-2009, 07:47 PM

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Well...we've earned that pessimism....or do you not remember 06?

I'm trying to forget 06.