10-09-2007, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by alby
OH BABY
YOU GUYS THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO LOSE DIDN'T YOU?????
I'M STILL UNDEFEATED BABYYYYYYYYYYYY
WHAT A GAME
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Good Job Alby...............
I'll bet the pucker factor was at 10.5 though.
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10-09-2007, 07:37 AM
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#602
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OMG it sucks to be Buffalo.
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10-09-2007, 08:27 AM
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#603
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Originally Posted by Chicken Diavlo
Was it me... or did the refs have it in for TO tonight?
The bogus spiking penalty...
The incompletion which was a force out...
Pass interference on the 2pt conversion... however I don't think they call that one anyways.
and then on the review of his catch after the onside recovery. Wasn't that against the rules? The cowboys had already ran down field and ran another play after a referee had placed the ball. They spiked it.
A win is a win, i know... but that just bugged me.
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That was DEFINATELY a force out and the guys on tv agreed with the refs. Total BS. There is no question he would have come down in bounds had the defesive back not pushed him in the back.
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10-09-2007, 08:41 AM
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Total time Dallas had the lead: 0:00.
How often does a team get its first lead after the final buzzer?
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10-09-2007, 09:02 AM
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BBB
Bring Back Bledsoe!
Just kidding don't shoot
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10-09-2007, 09:23 AM
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From DMN blog. "Tim McMahon" I'm not crazy about this guy.
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Trouble brewing for T.O.?
I'm on the record saying that this would be a trouble-free season for T.O. My logic was that Wade Phillips, Jason Garrett and Tony Romo would make sure that T.O. was involved on the field and happy off it.
Well, T.O. has a grand total of five catches for 55 yards in the last two games. That's his least productive back-to-back performances since the final two games of San Francisco's 2001 season.
T.O. was pretty vocal on the sideline tonight. He said he was simply trying to make sure Romo didn't get down on himself.
"I tried to stay with him and told him that we had his back and to just keep with it," T.O. said. "That's what we're all about."
When asked about the two-point conversion, T.O. said the ball was underthrown. That's bull. Romo threw a good ball, but scrub CB Jabari Greer just ripped it out of T.O.'s hands. T.O. also should have made the catch on the out route after the onside kick. The pass was low and a little behind him, but Hall of Famers make those kind of plays.
T.O. was all smiles after the game. He's given no recent reasons to think he's about to be disruptive to the Cowboys. But I've just got a bad feeling that he'll blow up Sunday if he's shown up by Randy Moss.
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The two-point conversion ball WAS underthrown. It made it instead of a jump ball one that came down into his chest where the defender had his hands there. I also hate that "should-have-made" reporting. Romo shouldn't have thrown 5 picks either. I just do not like reporters who think they are something.
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10-09-2007, 09:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dude1394
From DMN blog. "Tim McMahon" I'm not crazy about this guy.
The two-point conversion ball WAS underthrown. It made it instead of a jump ball one that came down into his chest where the defender had his hands there. I also hate that "should-have-made" reporting. Romo shouldn't have thrown 5 picks either. I just do not like reporters who think they are something.
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I'm telling you - they're trying to push T.O. over the edge... All he can do is come back next week and get 3 TDs on 200 yards receiving (although the National Sports Media will still only focus on any passes he drops...)
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10-09-2007, 09:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bookit
That was DEFINATELY a force out and the guys on tv agreed with the refs. Total BS. There is no question he would have come down in bounds had the defesive back not pushed him in the back.
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I felt like TO got at least two very suspect calls against him last night....VERY suspect.
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10-09-2007, 09:48 AM
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why haven't we been working TO and MB3 in the last two games? TO needs to be in the slot a bit more...I love him over the middle on quick slants. And I've seen far too much JJ...
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ok, we've talked about the problem of evil, and the extent of the atonement's application, but my real question to you is, "Could Jesus dunk?"
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10-09-2007, 09:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bookit
That was DEFINATELY a force out and the guys on tv agreed with the refs. Total BS. There is no question he would have come down in bounds had the defesive back not pushed him in the back.
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I thought it was rather obvious too...but maybe we had a less than perfect angle
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ok, we've talked about the problem of evil, and the extent of the atonement's application, but my real question to you is, "Could Jesus dunk?"
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10-09-2007, 10:00 AM
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And the Cowboys obviously ran into the kicker, so you win some, you lose some.
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10-09-2007, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Flacolaco
And the Cowboys obviously ran into the kicker, so you win some, you lose some.
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and some times you win 5 in a row.
by the way...everyone who can, should give alby rep
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ok, we've talked about the problem of evil, and the extent of the atonement's application, but my real question to you is, "Could Jesus dunk?"
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10-09-2007, 10:04 AM
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as for me...You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to alby again.
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ok, we've talked about the problem of evil, and the extent of the atonement's application, but my real question to you is, "Could Jesus dunk?"
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10-09-2007, 10:20 AM
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haha thanks sike. The NFL, the media, and a lot of the general public want to see TO fail, it's pretty sad. Yes, he drops passes but the guy is a beast at 6' 3" and is a very dangerous weapon when given opportunties. You need to keep him in the game early or else he will get frustrated, that's just human nature--no, it is not bad if he's pissed off on the sidelines about not getting the ball or the fact that his quarterback threw 4 first half interceptions. That's what you WANT to see from your players.
1. you can't review a play after the ball has been snapped
2. that was PI on the 2-point conversion
3. that was not a spiking, delay of game penalty
4. he was forced out before he could get his right foot inbounds
the cameras are focusing in on him everytime something negative happens waiting for an explosion. they see him talking to Romo and hope its really him about to bash his QB. Don't you want your players to get Romo into the game after throwing all those picks? Truth of the matter is, TO is hated--but what he showed last night was pretty darn good leadership from a veteran.
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10-09-2007, 10:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alby
Truth of the matter is, TO is hated--but what he showed last night was pretty darn good leadership from a veteran.
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and he didn't mind telling us either
I actually like TO and think Jason G. needs to get back to making him a bigger priority early on...
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ok, we've talked about the problem of evil, and the extent of the atonement's application, but my real question to you is, "Could Jesus dunk?"
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10-09-2007, 11:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sike
and he didn't mind telling us either
I actually like TO and think Jason G. needs to get back to making him a bigger priority early on...
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next week.
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10-09-2007, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Underdog
next week.
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if you're not right...I'm gonna slap you for getting my hopes up.
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ok, we've talked about the problem of evil, and the extent of the atonement's application, but my real question to you is, "Could Jesus dunk?"
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10-09-2007, 12:43 PM
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i've never seen a player so obviously being riddled by outside sources. some dumbass on nfl primetime went on a 20 second rant about how TO is the most overrated player in the league. Kornheiser brought up the BS that was the spiking call, and tirico asked 'so you think it was personal??' and they never said anything about it again - i'm sure they got hushed by the producers.
that's pure bullshit. he led the league in TD's last year, and is the primary reciever on a team that's 5-0 this year. TO IS AN ANGEL. THERE I SAID IT.
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10-09-2007, 12:56 PM
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The two-point conversion ball WAS underthrown. It made it instead of a jump ball one that came down into his chest where the defender had his hands there. I also hate that "should-have-made" reporting. Romo shouldn't have thrown 5 picks either. I just do not like reporters who think they are something.
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Same here. And I agree when you throw a lob pass like Romo did on that play its suppose to only be caught by the reciever. Greer should've never had a chance at that ball. I thought it was a pass interference as well but you almost never get that called on a lob like that. Not to mention its TO.
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10-09-2007, 01:42 PM
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Another vote for an underthrown ball on the conversion attempt.
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10-09-2007, 01:54 PM
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yup. you gotta throw to the pylon. that ball diidn't make it there.
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10-09-2007, 02:02 PM
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Definitely underthrown.
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"I still go through it in my head," Nowitzki said. "One of my last nights in Germany [last month], I was trying to go to sleep, but I couldn't. I was thinking about the free throw I missed [late in Game 3], about different situations that happened in that series. I'll never forget it. It's going to stay in my mind until we win it all."
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10-09-2007, 02:03 PM
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How do you expect TO to "rise above" if the ball is not "above" for him to "rise" to?
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"I still go through it in my head," Nowitzki said. "One of my last nights in Germany [last month], I was trying to go to sleep, but I couldn't. I was thinking about the free throw I missed [late in Game 3], about different situations that happened in that series. I'll never forget it. It's going to stay in my mind until we win it all."
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10-09-2007, 05:13 PM
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Quote:
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How do you expect TO to "rise above" if the ball is not "above" for him to "rise" to?
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By being shorter?
I don't have a replay thing to look at, but I remember thinking that his feet touched the ground right before the ball came out. I'm glad it was ripped out though so that we got to win the game instead.
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10-09-2007, 05:20 PM
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I don't think there is any way he could have held on to that ball. The defender's arms/hands were basically between TO's body and the ball.
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"I still go through it in my head," Nowitzki said. "One of my last nights in Germany [last month], I was trying to go to sleep, but I couldn't. I was thinking about the free throw I missed [late in Game 3], about different situations that happened in that series. I'll never forget it. It's going to stay in my mind until we win it all."
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10-09-2007, 06:01 PM
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i have no vCash. but at least the boys got the win.
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10-09-2007, 08:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ty
I don't think there is any way he could have held on to that ball. The defender's arms/hands were basically between TO's body and the ball.
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without looking back to see where the ball was.
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10-09-2007, 09:29 PM
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espn is playing (in part) the 92-93 nfc championship game between Dallas and San Fran.....classic stuff.
92-93 Dallas D >>>>> 2007 Dallas D
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10-09-2007, 10:00 PM
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I just finished watching it. It's the third time they've showed it in the last month lol
you think cowboys mania is catching fire?
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10-09-2007, 11:11 PM
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Quote:
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92-93 Dallas D >>>>> 2007 Dallas D
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That's like saying 05 Mavs >>>>>>> 92 Mavs...
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10-09-2007, 11:17 PM
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1991/92 Dallas Mavericks
per 100 possessions
offense - 103.0 points per game (rank 26 out of 27)
defense - 111.2 points per game (rank 26 our of 27)
lol ouch.
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10-09-2007, 11:36 PM
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There was actually a lot of talent on that team, too. Ro and Derek and Davis were still together, and Donaldson was still there. Granted, some of them were getting old. Fat Lever didn't help us, and neither did our young guys.
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10-09-2007, 11:46 PM
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Rolando Blackman $1,920,000
Brad Davis $600,000
Terry Davis $382,000
James Donaldson $880,000
Alex English $500,000
Tom Garrick $200,000
Derek Harper $1,725,000
Donald Hodge $130,000
Brian Howard $130,000
Mike Iuzzolino $185,000
Fat Lever $1,619,000
Rodney McCray $1,025,000
Tracy Moore $130,000
Brian Quinnett $450,000
John Shasky $250,000
Doug Smith $1,500,000
Kelvin Upshaw $250,000
Joao Vianna $130,000
Randy White $855,000
Herb Williams $1,183,000
We had Alex English?? dang what a squad
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10-10-2007, 12:33 AM
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10-10-2007, 12:40 AM
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They might want to mention the 2 or 3 seconds that weren't taken off the clock on the on side kick....gift.
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10-10-2007, 12:42 AM
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lol, i just noticed that.
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10-10-2007, 01:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bookit
That was DEFINATELY a force out and the guys on tv agreed with the refs. Total BS. There is no question he would have come down in bounds had the defesive back not pushed him in the back.
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i was thinking the same thing. Tirico(who is a douche) was sitting there saying you have one official watching for a force out and one watching for the catch what an amazing job. I was thinking, ummm the one that was watching for the force out must have been blind.
Couple of other things, the 2point play was blatant pi for two reasons, one faceguarding is illegal in the nfl. Even if he didnt touch to it would have been pi. Second his arms are CLEARLY on tos forearms before he touches the ball.
Couple of other things, about the kick timeout rule. I dont have a problem with it but that official has a whistle for a reason. Blow the damn thing when he calls the timeout. dont talk to him. Second im really waiting for someone to miss the first one and make the second one.
as for romo i liked that he kept coming after he screwed up. Very happy with how this game played out.
as for to, all the talks about the drops are just pure stupidity. You know who the top 4 in drops were last year? To, Andre Johnson, Steve Smith and chad johnson. ALL GREAT RECEIVERS DROP MORE PASSES THAN CRAPPY RECEIVERS BECAUSE THEY GET THROWN MORE PASSES! its common sense. If you get 110 passes thrown to you, you are more likely to drop 15-20 then if you get 45-50 passes thrown to you.
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10-10-2007, 01:17 AM
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damn fine post son
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10-10-2007, 01:23 AM
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i can watch irvin celebrate that win all day long
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10-10-2007, 01:33 AM
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Wade got it right. We need to throw TO the ball.
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"I still go through it in my head," Nowitzki said. "One of my last nights in Germany [last month], I was trying to go to sleep, but I couldn't. I was thinking about the free throw I missed [late in Game 3], about different situations that happened in that series. I'll never forget it. It's going to stay in my mind until we win it all."
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