Rodrigue Beaubois development thread - Page 16 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

dirno2000 · 12-19-2010, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by chumdawg

Oh, come on, bor_ing. Surely he is getting the best medical care he could possibly get.

You would think so but it appears that somebody over there screwed up by clearing him to come back early.

chumdawg · 12-19-2010, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dirno2000

You would think so but it appears that somebody over there screwed up by clearing him to come back early.

We don't know that.

DevinHarriswillstart · 12-19-2010, 11:40 PM

What I don't get is why the FO has been so hush-hush about it. I'd rather just know that a long way away is possible versus this week by week nonsense.

BGMaverick9 · 12-19-2010, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

What I don't get is why the FO has been so hush-hush about it. I'd rather just know that a long way away is possible versus this week by week nonsense.

The only thing I'd say to this is if they don't have any new news, then it's not worth mentioning. If something new was on the horizon, like him going with the underwater treadmill, they'll mention it. Doesn't a timetable just put pressure on the situation? That's clearly not their agenda, to rush him back...they're winning and they still have him waiting in the wings.

dirno2000 · 12-20-2010, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by chumdawg

We don't know that.

That's why I qualified it with "appears". What we do know is that they allowed him to come back early, he suffered a setback and as a result a three month injury has become a six month injury.

So in retrospect it's clear that they weren't cautious enough. What we don't know is if any other medical staff, with the same information, would have handled it the same way.

BGMaverick9 · 12-20-2010, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by dirno2000

That's why I qualified it with "appears". What we do know is that they allowed him to come back early, he suffered a setback and as a result a three month injury has become a six month injury.

So in retrospect it's clear that they weren't cautious enough. What we don't know is if any other medical staff, with the same information, would have handled it the same way.

I'd have to do some digging...or someone else can but I think Reggie Evans just went down with the same exact injury or one very similar to it. If that's the case, there is your view from the outside.

b_o_r · 12-20-2010, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

I'd have to do some digging...or someone else can but I think Reggie Evans just went down with the same exact injury or one very similar to it. If that's the case, there is your view from the outside.

As well as James Anderson of the Spurs and Damion James of the Nets.

dude1394 · 12-20-2010, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

What I don't get is why the FO has been so hush-hush about it. I'd rather just know that a long way away is possible versus this week by week nonsense.

I don't think they've actually given us this week by week stuff, that has been conjecture by others. Carlisle leads most of this, he just doesn't want to answer the same questions over and over you know..

"are we there yet" "are we there yet" "are we there yet" that goes on when you openly discuss someones return. So the entire club refuses to comment as well.

Can't blame 'em, he's not playing, they don't know yet when he's playing...we'll let you know something when we know something...let's get on with the season, there are more important things to discuss.

DevinHarriswillstart · 12-20-2010, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

I don't think they've actually given us this week by week stuff, that has been conjecture by others. Carlisle leads most of this, he just doesn't want to answer the same questions over and over you know..

"are we there yet" "are we there yet" "are we there yet" that goes on when you openly discuss someones return. So the entire club refuses to comment as well.

Can't blame 'em, he's not playing, they don't know yet when he's playing...we'll let you know something when we know something...let's get on with the season, there are more important things to discuss.

Easy there tiger. It is plenty fair to wonder about this because the sooner he comes back, the better as far as I'm concerned. I actually was more irritated at the lack of pretty much any info versus caring about a specific timetable.

iella · 12-20-2010, 12:08 PM

I was at the Mavs@Warriors game where Roddy hit nine 3-pt shots... but even so, in the midst of his long absence, I had almost forgotten how brilliant he is. Then I watched some highlight videos on YouTube, and now I remember.

Come back soon, Roddy.

b_o_r · 12-20-2010, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by b_o_r

As well as James Anderson of the Spurs and Damion James of the Nets.

add Brandon Jennings to the list:

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_ar...owing_surgery/

its got to be the way sneakers are made.

tcat075 · 12-20-2010, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by iella

I was at the Mavs@Warriors game where Roddy hit nine 3-pt shots... but even so, in the midst of his long absence, I had almost forgotten how brilliant he is. Then I watched some highlight videos on YouTube, and now I remember.

Come back soon, Roddy.

That's exactly what I wrote an article I posted this morning on MMB about. Nice.

Here's the link.

Would love to get some feedback from you guys.

CATCH-17 · 12-22-2010, 10:01 AM

Getting him back in February isn't that bad. It's actually good timing and it allows us several months to get him ready before the playoffs.

I dont understand all the pessimism.

It's a long time from February til May.

If he can come in and break down a defense than watch out.

sike · 12-22-2010, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by iella

I was at the Mavs@Warriors game where Roddy hit nine 3-pt shots... but even so, in the midst of his long absence, I had almost forgotten how brilliant he is. Then I watched some highlight videos on YouTube, and now I remember.

Come back soon, Roddy.

Athletically, he is phenomenal. And his shot is just fine as well.

With his tools and some health, he has a legitimate chance to be great.

ReDirkulous Tyme · 12-22-2010, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by sike

Athletically, he is phenomenal. And his shot is just fine as well.

He his tools and some health, he has a legitimate chance to be great.

i'm not worried about the results. The results will come in time.

I just want him fully healthy by February

deamon · 12-22-2010, 01:20 PM

February it's too late to see what he can give us after injury.
We need a player who will penetrate and score, if we want something more than 2nd round.

Skywalker · 12-22-2010, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by tcat075

That's exactly what I wrote an article I posted this morning on MMB about. Nice.

Here's the link.

Would love to get some feedback from you guys.

That was a great read tcat, thanks for reminding me of Roddy's awesomeness.

Kidd Karma · 12-22-2010, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by deamon

February it's too late to see what he can give us after injury.
We need a player who will penetrate and score, if we want something more than 2nd round.

I don't think it's too late to incorporate him. I think it's a great time with the older guys needing a nice reduction of minutes as we head to the stretch of the season.

I actually compare him favorably to Monta Ellis, someone who can create his own shot, get to the cup and create ways to get the ball up there. One of those guys that can tell Dirk to get out of the way and let him go one on one into the teeth of the defense.

tcat075 · 12-22-2010, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Skywalker

That was a great read tcat, thanks for reminding me of Roddy's awesomeness.

Thanks.

41mvp · 12-22-2010, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by deamon

February it's too late to see what he can give us after injury.
We need a player who will penetrate and score, if we want something more than 2nd round.

I agree with you.February it's too late.We need him in January

mavs777 · 12-22-2010, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Kidd Karma

I don't think it's too late to incorporate him. I think it's a great time with the older guys needing a nice reduction of minutes as we head to the stretch of the season.

I actually compare him favorably to Monta Ellis, someone who can create his own shot, get to the cup and create ways to get the ball up there. One of those guys that can tell Dirk to get out of the way and let him go one on one into the teeth of the defense.

I agree with the comparison to Ellis, the only thing with him is he doesn't seem to comfortable shooting a jumper off the dribble he needs to work on that

Kidd Karma · 12-22-2010, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mavs777

I agree with the comparison to Ellis, the only thing with him is he doesn't seem to comfortable shooting a jumper off the dribble he needs to work on that

KJ and Timmy were deadly back in the day.

CATCH-17 · 12-23-2010, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 41mvp

I agree with you.February it's too late.We need him in January

How is February too late?

April is too late... February is not.

Fragism · 12-23-2010, 04:03 AM

Roddy doesn't need time to be incorporated, he just goes out and makes plays.

41mvp · 12-23-2010, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by CATCH-17

How is February too late?

April is too late... February is not.

Why Fabruary is too late.Because Dirk need help.And we must know how Roddy will be play.

Dirkadirkastan · 12-23-2010, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 41mvp

Why Fabruary is too late.Because Dirk need help.And we must see how Roddy will be play.

Novamber and Decamber is good time.How no Roddy in January is bad time why you think this???

41mvp · 12-23-2010, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan

Novamber and Decamber is good time.How no Roddy in January is bad time why you think this???

We must know if he can play on high level.I think Roddy in January is good time but Roddy in Fabruary March,April it's too late

Budapest Maverick · 12-23-2010, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by mavs777

I agree with the comparison to Ellis, the only thing with him is he doesn't seem to comfortable shooting a jumper off the dribble he needs to work on that

You mean Ellis, and not Roddy, right? Roddy has a very good pull up jumper.

Kante · 12-23-2010, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by 41mvp

We must know if he can play on high level.I think Roddy in January is good time but Roddy in Fabruary March,April it's too late

It´s not too late!

Lor20 · 12-23-2010, 08:51 AM

february still means we'll have like 30 games left to get him into the rotation. the real question is how to split up the 96 minutes at the guard positions. I'd like to see something like this:
Kidd: 30 minutes
Roddy:20 minutes
Terry:25 minutes
Stevenson:10-15 minutes
Barea:5-10 minutes

rotations could be something like that depending on matchup and situation:
kidd+terry for 15 minutes (closer unless roddy is hot)
kidd+stevenson for 10 minutes (starter)

kidd+roddy for 5 minutes
Terry+Roddy for 10 minutes vs backup guards or guards that are not too great offensively
Barea+Roddy for 5-10 minutes

deamon · 12-23-2010, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by CATCH-17

How is February too late?

April is too late... February is not.

How you would make a trade in April?
It's sure we will need in PO someone who will penetrate. At now we don't even know Roddy can jump like year ago. Trade deadline is in middle of February, you forgot?

25 minutes for Terry?
He should play only in 4th qtr, and in PO he shouldn't even play.

j0Shi · 12-23-2010, 11:04 AM

I'd also like to see Roddy cutting into JJBs minutes the most, but who will be running the point then? I think until further notice we are done with Roddy at PG, aren't we? Could Jet step in?

CATCH-17 · 12-23-2010, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by deamon

How you would make a trade in April?
It's sure we will need in PO someone who will penetrate. At now we don't even know Roddy can jump like year ago. Trade deadline is in middle of February, you forgot?

25 minutes for Terry?
He should play only in 4th qtr, and in PO he shouldn't even play.

He is worth waiting for and a trade would be stupid because he is the only bright spot for the Mavs future.

Right now the Mavs are fools gold because they still rely on the jump shot and our Jump Shots don't fall in the Summer.

Roddy is the only available player that could potentially put us over the top with his ability to slash and get/create easy buckets.

rabbitproof · 12-23-2010, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by j0Shi

I'd also like to see Roddy cutting into JJBs minutes the most, but who will be running the point then? I think until further notice we are done with Roddy at PG, aren't we? Could Jet step in?

That would be the hope. Maybe:

PG: Kidd (32)/Terry(16)
SG: Stevenson(14)/Roddy(24)/Terry(10)

SMC0007 · 12-23-2010, 12:40 PM

The greatest thing about Roddy is when he comes back we won't be relying on him to "produce or we fail". We have done well without him, exceptionally and surprisingly well without him. So whatever he brings whenever he comes back is just icing!

My guess is that it's less pressure than he would have had if he never got hurt. The guy can come in without the weight of the city on his shoulders to be the "2nd option" and play ball, like he did in the beginning and wow with his raw ability.

Maybe things happen for a reason, maybe this was a blessing in disguise.

41mvp · 12-23-2010, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CATCH-17

He is worth waiting for and a trade would be stupid because he is the only bright spot for the Mavs future.

Right now the Mavs are fools gold because they still rely on the jump shot and our Jump Shots don't fall in the Summer.

Roddy is the only available player that could potentially put us over the top with his ability to slash and get/create easy buckets.

Yes he is our future.But we need him quickly.We must know if he can play on high level in playoffs.

iella · 12-23-2010, 01:13 PM

Every time this thread is updated, I hope it's BG posting that Roddy is back in practice and will be game-ready next week.

So far, this has not been the case.

41mvp · 12-23-2010, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by iella

Every time this thread is updated, I hope it's BG posting that Roddy is back in practice and will be game-ready next week.

So far, this has not been the case.

I also hope

SMC0007 · 12-23-2010, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 41mvp

I also hope

Do you have a xmas list?

41mvp · 12-23-2010, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

Do you have a xmas list?

maybe.And you?