The"Crap, it didn't happen..but it was awesome to think of" thread

[markus1234]

Hm, not really. Kaman is inconsistent (probably mental) but he still can play...

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=320213003

Mavs never had a Center like Kaman. I'd love to get Kaman and keep Haywood. Which is impossible of course.

[Kante]

1 Game...

Haywood is a lot better than Kaman!

[PartywithDirk]

Not really Mavs related, but it is in a twisty sort of way....

I'm in Houston this week and the talk down here is that the Rockettes are trying to put together some package around Kyle Lowrie for Pau Gasol.

Now, I know that sounds like they would be fleecing the Lakers and they would. But this would be great for us for 2 reasons:

1. No Pau to package with Bynum for Dwight.
2. PG for the Lakers so no need for DWill (unless they packaged Lowrie and others for DWill).

[FromDownTown!]

Nets working on a multi-team trade scenario to acquire Howard. Lets hope it fails!

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap...Acquire_Howard

[LonghornDub]

Originally Posted by FromDownTown!

Nets working on a multi-team trade scenario to acquire Howard. Lets hope it fails!

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap...Acquire_Howard

Time to root for the naively optimistic Magic owner.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by FromDownTown!

Nets working on a multi-team trade scenario to acquire Howard. Lets hope it fails!

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap...Acquire_Howard

That link contains absolutely ZERO new information.

[samoan-maverickII]

Watching Dirk interview. Kobe vs. Dirk in HORSE. Who ya got?

[Big Boy Laroux]

Kobe and dirk should re-enact the Jordan/bird McDonald's commercial. Hell they're both always compared to those guys anyway.

[markus1234]

Kobe and Dirk are the only "old school" guys left. Reminds me kind of Dirk's 1st all star game with Jordan and Malone...

Must be a weird feeling for both.

[rabbitproof]

Pierce is still there but he's a clear cut below.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by Big Boy Laroux

Kobe and dirk should re-enact the Jordan/bird McDonald's commercial. Hell they're both always compared to those guys anyway.

Haha, good point!

(I always loved that commercial as a kid...)

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by markus1234

Kobe and Dirk are the only "old school" guys left. Reminds me kind of Dirk's 1st all star game with Jordan and Malone...

Must be a weird feeling for both.

Steve Nash is sad that you didn't remember him...

[rabbitproof]

This weekend is making me very nervous with regards to this thread.

[MavsFTR]

@ESPNSteinLine: RT @usat_jzillgitt: Dwight Howard tells USA TODAY trade request still stands but staying in Orlando is "big possibility"

@ESPNSteinLine: RT @usat_jzillgitt: Dwight concluded interview w/this: "Kobe (Bryant) asked to be traded and look what happened."

[MavsFTR]

I really think it's certain that he stays in Orlando for the remaining of the season. Then we'll be in prime position to pick up both stars.

[Kidd Karma]

Originally Posted by rabbitproof

This weekend is making me very nervous with regards to this thread.

Definitely, "Nets working on multiple teams to get Howard." We have to sweep all those DDD rumors under the rug until March 16. DeVos does not need to see any of those at all. He needs to know and hear that the magic will make a deep playoff run as currently constructed.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

It doesn't make sense for Orlando to trade him if they can't get a big time player out of it. Orlando is an eastern conference contender at this point. Brook Lopez isn't going to put fans in the seats.

[Kidd Karma]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

It doesn't make sense for Orlando to trade him if they can't get a big time player out of it. Orlando is an eastern conference contender at this point. Brook Lopez isn't going to put fans in the seats.

No doubt, same thinking from Devos point of view as well, plus why take on unwanted salary for a couple of draft picks. NJ's picks are fools gold as well, without being guaranteed that top pick, 6.5 games out of the last playoff spot, team adding Howard......brings new life to a dead team. Say No Orlando!! Nice to see Howard looking at life in Orlando....now. But once those playoffs hit and Orlando is what 4th best, as the Knicks surge by....he'll be looking at free agency, he'll be looking at Orlando, comparing his top 2 there with Dirk and Deron.......

[rabbitproof]

It all depends on what NJN can muster up. If it's just Lopez, sure. If it becomes say (pulling a name out of pretty thin air) Iguodala/Brooks/Lopez/couple firsts.. you might want to think about it.

I just don't like that NJN is going into overdrive. It means they think their chances are improving.

[grndmstr_c]

Originally Posted by rabbitproof

It all depends on what NJN can muster up. If it's just Lopez, sure. If it becomes say (pulling a name out of pretty thin air) Iguodala/Brooks/Lopez/couple firsts.. you might want to think about it.

I just don't like that NJN is going into overdrive. It means they think their chances are improving.

Not that I disagree with the notion that their chances are better right now than they were at the beginning of the season - it was pretty much always going to be the case that if a deal happened it would happen sometime between the all-star break and the trade deadline - but it's also just as true that the Nets going to be more active from here on out because their chances are dwindling. They know very well that the upcoming trade deadline is probably either going to bring them Dwight Howard or cost them Deron Williams.

[Kidd Karma]

Originally Posted by rabbitproof

It all depends on what NJN can muster up. If it's just Lopez, sure. If it becomes say (pulling a name out of pretty thin air) Iguodala/Brooks/Lopez/couple firsts.. you might want to think about it.

I just don't like that NJN is going into overdrive. It means they think their chances are improving.

True, give them a Humphries expiring, finnagle a 2nd tier star to Orlando. If I were Cuban, I'd be sourcing out a lot of rumor mongering to throw in a curve.

[GhostFace]

I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but ask I shall. I am curious about Dwight and Deron going to LA.

As you all know or soon will know is that LA picked up Rasheed Wallace. My co-worker suggested this is a plan for future moves. He stated the Lakers can straight up trade Bynum for Howard if the Magic will trade, but seeing as Otis does not look like he will trade Howard can mosey on over to LA. Now with Deron, my co-worker is suggesting that LA can offer, Bynum or Pau + another Laker player for Deron. Or a possible three way team trade involving LA, New Jersey, and Orlando.

I don't know shit about the Lakers financial situation or the contracts of their players.. so.. if it isn't too much to ask can someone more intelligent and knowledgeable of the above please enlightening me to why what my co-worker suggested is not possible? (I would rather it not be possible then possible of course.. but if it is please do explain).

[Budapest Maverick]

That would be really hard for them, because of a number of reasons. (cap being one). Not totally impossible, but highly unlikely. This is the latest rumor about a 3 team trade, from the source that supposedly broke Jose's signing to Minnesota.

http://www.elnuevodia.com/serumoraqu...a-1198812.html

Wolves gets Pau Gasol

Lakers get Beasley, Barea, Dwight howard

Magic get Derrick Wiliams and Andrew Bynum

If the Lakers give 2 1st's, it does not seem totally impossible, as the Magic gets a good young center, and the 2nd pick (Williams) of last year's draft, while Minnesota gets Ricky's buddy, Pau, and becomes a playoff team instantly. (probably) Even if this goes through, it shows how it is really-really unlikely for the Lakers to get both Dwight, and Williams, as realistically they have to send out most of their assets to get one of them. This trade would probably guarantee us Deron btw, if it goes through. I still want both!

[j0Shi]

I don't fear any scenario where the Lakers give up both Pau and Bynum.

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by j0Shi

I don't fear any scenario where the Lakers give up both Pau and Bynum.

Indeed. Aging, greedy kobe, dwight, scrubs and no picks? Big gamble and i cant see deight being happy

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by GhostFace

I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but ask I shall. I am curious about Dwight and Deron going to LA.

As you all know or soon will know is that LA picked up Rasheed Wallace. My co-worker suggested this is a plan for future moves. He stated the Lakers can straight up trade Bynum for Howard if the Magic will trade, but seeing as Otis does not look like he will trade Howard can mosey on over to LA. Now with Deron, my co-worker is suggesting that LA can offer, Bynum or Pau + another Laker player for Deron. Or a possible three way team trade involving LA, New Jersey, and Orlando.

I don't know shit about the Lakers financial situation or the contracts of their players.. so.. if it isn't too much to ask can someone more intelligent and knowledgeable of the above please enlightening me to why what my co-worker suggested is not possible? (I would rather it not be possible then possible of course.. but if it is please do explain).

The Lakers front office is such a mess right now that Kobe is more likely to force his way out than Dwight or Deron are to force their way in... And unlike the Kwame-for-Pau trade, there is no Jerry West working for the Nets or Magic front offices.

[rabbitproof]

You don't fear it as in the Lakers won't be threatening.. how about the fear of not getting Dwight?

Surely, that goes up.

Also, the basis of that trade looks like it might work for all parties but I think a couple tweaks would be needed. Orlando would have to offload Hedo and I'd be curious what happens to Minny's frontline as Pekovik is playing very well. Would be surprised if he's not moved instead of say Barea. Either directly to Orlando or involving a 4th team to get another asset for Orlando.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by rabbitproof

You don't fear it as in the Lakers won't be threatening.. how about the fear of not getting Dwight?

If Dwight goes to the Lakers, then we're almost certainly going to land Deron Williams.

I call that a win, especially if LA has to give up both Bynum and Gasol... We get better, they get stuck in cap hell with the two highest-paid players in the league (which would be about the same as Miami's cap situation, but with 2 guys instead of 3).

[rabbitproof]

Yeah, I guess it's a net win.

I want total carnage win.

[markus1234]

We need Dwight to compete against MIA, CHI, LAC, NY and OKC in the future. It is not about the Lakers.

If Dwight goes to LAL and we get Deron than maybe we can beat LA but it still wont't be enough to beat the other -massively improving with each passing day- teams.

[dude1394]

Originally Posted by Underdog

The Lakers front office is such a mess right now that Kobe is more likely to force his way out than Dwight or Deron are to force their way in... And unlike the Kwame-for-Pau trade, there is no Jerry West working for the Nets or Magic front offices.

With a front office this wacky ( although they were going to pull the Chris Paul deal off)... They could do anything.

[mavs777]

Originally Posted by markus1234

We need Dwight to compete against MIA, CHI, LAC, NY and OKC in the future. It is not about the Lakers.

If Dwight goes to LAL and we get Deron than maybe we can beat LA but it still wont't be enough to beat the other -massively improving with each passing day- teams.

You don't seem bright.

[markus1234]

Originally Posted by mavs777

You don't seem bright.

I won't stoop down to your level, sorry.

[Dirkadirkastan]

Originally Posted by rabbitproof

Yeah, I guess it's a net win.

Noooo!

[LonghornDub]

Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan

Noooo!

I lol'ed.

[GhostFace]

Thanks for the explanation guys.

Originally Posted by markus1234

We need Dwight to compete against MIA, CHI, LAC, NY and OKC in the future. It is not about the Lakers.

If Dwight goes to LAL and we get Deron than maybe we can beat LA but it still wont't be enough to beat the other -massively improving with each passing day- teams.

Because we already have big men... not he best, but ones we can at least work with. That and their far more big men in the league and out than capable PG's. Plus PG's like d-will don't come along too often and JKidd won't be around forever. Imo ofc.

[rabbitproof]

Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan

Noooo!

I feel the sameeee!

[MavsFTR]

http://dallas.sbnation.com/2012/2/26...-would-love-to

NBA Trade Rumors: Deron Williams Has Told Mavericks He "Would Love" To Play For Them
by Maurice London • Feb 26, 2012 11:13 AM CST

The immediate dismantling of a championship team is not typical in sports (unless you're Jeffrey Loria), so when Mark Cuban and Donnie Nelson decided to completely overhaul the Mavericks roster the reaction wasn't pretty.

Cuban had spent the better part of 11 years trying to bring a championship to Dallas and overpaying the likes of Erick Dampier only to let the stalwart of the Mavericks' title run, Tyson Chandler, leave in free agency? But slowly, the ramifications of the new CBA became clearer and the moves that were made this offseason had a bigger picture in mind. 2012.

For the first time in Cuban's ownership he was going to have the flexibility to be a player in free agency. The two biggest names in 2012 as you may have heard are Dwight Howard and Deron Williams. Well, According to the NY Daily News, Deron Williams made it known during the Mavericks finals run that he would love to play in Dallas.

Williams privately told members of the Mavs last June during their Finals celebration that he would love to go back home and be a part of team with Dirk Nowitzki.

You may remember Williams hanging out in the Mavericks locker room during last season's final run. I believe the interest is definitely there from both sides and I do think Dallas is Deron's preferred destination. The Mavericks will just need to hope March 15 passes without Dwight Howard landing in Brooklyn. Speaking of Dwight, I'll leave you with this rumor that is starting to gain steam around the NBA.

The ultimate disaster for New Jersey would be if Williams and Howard end up playing together, but not in Brooklyn. With some roster alterations that are doable, including using their one amnesty move on Brendan Haywood, the Mavs could be set up, cap-wise, to accommodate both players.

"The Mavs want to do what Miami did and put together their own big three,’’ said another GM. "That’s their goal."

[BGMaverick9]

At least my picture helps validate the fact that he had those "private" chats he had with Mavs players.

[jthig32]

Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

At least my picture helps validate the fact that he had those "private" chats he had with Mavs players.

That was you that took that pic of him in the Rangers hat?