03-09-2023, 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Simon2
When are the Mavs FO going to realize that Kidd is not the guy who will coach them to the next level? Kidd doesn?t look like he is coaching on the sidelines. He just has his hands in his pockets.
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I mean, there are people on twitter who I never thought I'd hear go against Kidd thinking he is actually sabotaging the team on purpose. It's madness.
Not even sure it's worth keeping Kyrie if that means keeping Kidd. It's that bad.
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03-09-2023, 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by rimrocker
So we could very easily lose Wood and Kyrie this summer. If that happens this FO lost Brunson, DFS, Dinwiddie, Wood, Kyrie, KP, 2 first rounders and 2 2nd rounders and will have only Bertans to show for it.
Yeah, we'll have money in FA but does anyone really think this FO can even come close to being competitive.
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I was one of the few KP supporters on here.
I honestly felt as if his biggest issue in Dallas was Rick.
He actually played well doing his short stint here with kidd. The things that they are wanting wood to do here now KP was actually doing it.
Had they stayed patient knowing now that both Brunson and KP are borderline all star players they could have possibly had young trio good enough to rival Denver's trio of jokic, Murray and Porter JR
Both JB and KP are killing it for their respective squads
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03-09-2023, 08:35 AM
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And what the hell has happened to Josh Green? He doesn't even play good defense anymore. Kid is totally broken.
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03-09-2023, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
And what the hell has happened to Josh Green? He doesn't even play good defense anymore. Kid is totally broken.
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Kidd destroys everything he touches
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03-09-2023, 08:59 AM
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Well Hardy and Wood need to play all of their minutes together. They have some weird connection...oh wait, a coach that doesn't believe in either of them.
Hardy probably gets a DNP next game with Frank taking the minutes.
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03-09-2023, 09:12 AM
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Its boring because they play slow and they have only two things. Isolations and isolation pass to another player. Its boring to see a player isolate over and over again. Eventually, ther teams figure it out. Lack of effort is also boring. When you see people being paid millionsand their idea is to watch someone take a three like in a pickup game, its not fun to watch. The coach is just boring too. He looks like a deer in the headlights. Optics is everything and this guy doesn?t look like he knows what he is doing.
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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
This truly is the most unwatchable team in the NBA.
I don't care about scrappy and bad. They're scrappy and they may win sometimes.
This team is profoundly lethargic, disappointing, and boring.
We know:
1) That they will be outrebounded BIGLY
2) We know that they will inevitably forget how to play for huge periods and the other team will outscore them by 20+
3) We know that their defense will make middle school teams look good
4) We know that we will see fat Luka turning it over on stupid plays
5) We know that Luka will go pout on the bench by himself after walking by Kidd without even listening to him.
Same thing every single night.
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03-09-2023, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Simon2
Its boring because they play slow and they have only two things. Isolations and isolation pass to another player. Its boring to see a player isolate over and over again. Eventually, ther teams figure it out. Lack of effort is also boring. When you see people being paid millionsand their idea is to watch someone take a three like in a pickup game, its not fun to watch. The coach is just boring too. He looks like a deer in the headlights. Optics is everything and this guy doesn?t look like he knows what he is doing.
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Problem is when they play hot potato with the ball it's even worse. So, iso ball doesn't work AND hot potato ball doesn't work. Coaching, coaching, coaching.
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03-09-2023, 11:13 AM
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Fn team sucks. How can you add Kyrie and still be just as bad? Well, thats a stupid question. The rotation is the easiest thing to fix but you're gonna get D Fn Powell and you can suck it, and like it! If yall don't love DP and can't get behind Woods minimal minutes, thrn you can go find another team to watch. Cuban dares you to. He knows you won't and you will in fact help him "sell out" the AAC.
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03-10-2023, 09:32 AM
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12-17 since January 2nd.
This team isn't just facing a bumpy stretch. It's not just a mediocre playoff team at .500. This is a legitimately lottery team.
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03-10-2023, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
12-17 since January 2nd.
This team isn't just facing a bumpy stretch. It's not just a mediocre playoff team at .500. This is a legitimately lottery team.
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Please...you know better. Y'all have to take a breath and stop acting like this was all supposed to gel and wins come down in buckets. Yea, the coaching and rotations and aspects of the team could certainly be better.
But to state a record since an arbitrary point in time where there are many variables (injuries, trades, etc.) that go into it? You won't find me declaring this team a lottery team when they're fully healthy. And that's not far off.
Take a chill pill, maybe even a couple of games off like Luka. I'm no apologist, but I'll be going down with my team in the playoffs either way. You can be a realist or whatever you're going for, let's not state silliness as near fact.
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03-10-2023, 11:09 AM
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"The difference between good and bad teams is that good teams win close games."
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03-10-2023, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
"The difference between good and bad teams is that good teams win close games."
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Mavs are 0-500 in close games this season
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03-10-2023, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Melonhead
Mavs are 0-500 in close games this season
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Mavs amazingly arent last in clutch performance. 14th isn't great, but it isn't terrible.
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03-10-2023, 03:43 PM
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Luka and Irving and likely both out vs the Grizzlies (Luka for sure).
Pleeeease give me the Green and Hardy show.
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03-10-2023, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
Luka and Irving and likely both out vs the Grizzlies (Luka for sure).
Pleeeease give me the Green and Hardy show.
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is that theo's podcast music i hear?
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03-10-2023, 06:53 PM
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03-10-2023, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
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At this point Kleber, Wood, Green, Luka and kyrie should be the unquestionable starters
But Powell is so beloved by the FO and coaching staff they you won't ever see that lineup much
Ideally in the playoffs you'd like to see Bullock, THJ, fHoliday and Powell form your bench every night.
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03-10-2023, 10:36 PM
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"You just have to play your best players, period," O'Connor said. "They're not doing that with Christian Wood. They're not doing that with (Jaden) Hardy. They've had weird minutes fluctuations for Josh Green."
What a novel fucking idea
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03-10-2023, 10:43 PM
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"You just have to play your best players, period," O'Connor said. "They're not doing that with Christian Wood. They're not doing that with (Jaden) Hardy. They've had weird minutes fluctuations for Josh Green."
What a novel fucking idea
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I have been screaming that from the 8th Dimenson all season. Now, I don't really care. Kidd has taken all of the joy out of being a fan.
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03-11-2023, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
I have been screaming that from the 8th Dimenson all season. Now, I don't really care. Kidd has taken all of the joy out of being a fan.
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I was coming here to post the same sentiment. Any excitement I had for the future of this organization is gone. I don't care anymore.
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03-11-2023, 06:04 PM
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We have been saying what that article said from game 1.
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03-11-2023, 07:06 PM
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Hardy is starting, so at least I can have fun tonight. If he and Green go off without the stars, then something isn't right and needs to be fixed.
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03-11-2023, 08:21 PM
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No Luka or Kyrie
You can clearly see the disfunction without a true 3rd PG on this team.
Forcing lobs to Powell
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03-11-2023, 09:07 PM
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It was nice when Powell had only played 5 minutes, then they put him back. When will they realize he just can't play?
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03-11-2023, 09:32 PM
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Game is still more watchable than most games without 2 superstars.
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03-11-2023, 09:38 PM
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Jason Kidd is fn terrible.
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03-11-2023, 09:43 PM
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Maybe we should trade Luka and start over with Hardy and Josh. I just feel like we can't go back to the same ole same ole anymore.
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03-11-2023, 09:56 PM
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Nice watching the Green, Hardy, and Wood show
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03-11-2023, 09:59 PM
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Defense still bad
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03-11-2023, 10:12 PM
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Free Roddy
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03-11-2023, 10:15 PM
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Mavs could be the worst team in the league right now
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03-11-2023, 10:17 PM
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I'd rather watch this kinda bad 10/10 than watch a team with two superstars drag their feet through the mudd to win games.
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03-11-2023, 10:18 PM
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03-11-2023, 10:23 PM
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Nice watching the Green, Hardy, and Wood show
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Wood show? He played 15 mins and no 4th quarter mins.
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03-11-2023, 10:23 PM
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Mavs 8th
A- Lakers win and they?ll be 9th
A team that went to the WCF and peaked at 4th this season is likely going to be on the outside looking in after a continued free fall with no end in sight.
The best part is even if we miss the playoffs. Knicks have a 90% or better chance of keeping our pick
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03-11-2023, 10:25 PM
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Why not Wood to end the game? McGee must be so bad that he can?t get any playing time. The last minute was just a microcosm of the Mave. Isolations and no system. Electing to take two bad three point shots. Bullock is trash. Watch the play where he left his man for the open three. Why would he even do that? Trying to help in defense? He left his guy wide open. Hardy had a good game but he is a rookie. Kidd does not know how to coach bigs.
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03-11-2023, 10:31 PM
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Jason Kidd needs to be taken out back.
C Wood plays 15 mins TOTAL.
Our offense is a shit show.
Our defense is a steaming hotbag of homeless sh!t.
At least I didn't have to watch Luka cry about phantom fouls and stand around.
On the bright side Josh and Hardy were forced mins because 2 other dudes were out.
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03-11-2023, 10:34 PM
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Why not Wood to end the game? McGee must be so bad that he can?t get any playing time. The last minute was just a microcosm of the Mave. Isolations and no system. Electing to take two bad three point shots. Bullock is trash. Watch the play where he left his man for the open three. Why would he even do that? Trying to help in defense? He left his guy wide open. Hardy had a good game but he is a rookie. Kidd does not know how to coach bigs.
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Kidd doesn't know how to coach bigs. He equally doesn't know how to coach anyone else.
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03-11-2023, 10:44 PM
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Wood show? He played 15 mins and no 4th quarter mins.
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Kidd would rather us lose as long as Wood doesn't play. I'm now thoroughly convinced.
And it's not like Wood is some perfect player that should be kept no matter what, but the coaching staff has sent him a clear message that he isn't wanted on the team.
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03-11-2023, 10:46 PM
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Free Roddy
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