General NBA watching thread 2010-11 edition - Page 18 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

chumdawg · 02-04-2011, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan

Take the pro-Spurs bitching over to Spurstalk.

What if you've already been banned over there?

chumdawg · 02-04-2011, 02:30 AM

All I'm saying is that it is not clear to me who waved who off, who jerked who off, who sucked who off...you get the idea.

amuseddaysleeper · 02-04-2011, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by mavs777

I agree that playing great isn't that important right now, but I find it awkward that the top of the west is playing this way right now (save the Mavs I guess), hopefully the Spurs peaked too early this year

I don't see how it's awkward, Spurs are 8-2 in their last 10 games, better than anyone in their last 10, and are 2-0 vs LA.

They're 8 games ahead of the #2 seed, so if they get a little complacent you'll have to forgive them.

And dirkistan, that's a hella weak post considering this is the general NBA forum. Dtownsfinest knows what's up.

And that TP shot was a point blank layup, was stunned he missed it.

dirno2000 · 02-04-2011, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by CadBane

Bull S**t. Quit trying to cover your ass because you hadn't watched the play when you commented. LBJ clearly waved him off, and Wade was WIDE open, not a guy within 5 feet of him. Hmmm...so I guess Miller is just going to decide to pass it to LBJ who is tightly covered and precariously close to being out of bounds over a WIDE open teammate. Right. Okay.

I watched the play live and after I read your post ( but before I commented) I went back and dissected it with the DVR. You on the other hand thought James Jones, not Mike Miller, inbounded the ball on the play.

Wade was wide open but that's on the passer.

You made a bad point...it happens.

Dirkadirkastan · 02-04-2011, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by chumdawg

What if you've already been banned over there?

Could always pull a Cadbane.

mavs777 · 02-04-2011, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by amuseddaysleeper

I don't see how it's awkward, Spurs are 8-2 in their last 10 games, better than anyone in their last 10, and are 2-0 vs LA.

They're 8 games ahead of the #2 seed, so if they get a little complacent you'll have to forgive them.

And dirkistan, that's a hella weak post considering this is the general NBA forum. Dtownsfinest knows what's up.

And that TP shot was a point blank layup, was stunned he missed it.

I don't think wins and losses is that huge for San Antionio, LA, and Dallas as much as how well they are playing even with the 6 game win streak I feel Dallas will need to play better (mainly rebound save Ny game) anybody that has watched SA lately compared to there first 35 games or so, sees that they aren't playing with the same rythym and aren't getting the open shots they were earlier in the year

amuseddaysleeper · 02-04-2011, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by mavs777

I don't think wins and losses is that huge for San Antionio, LA, and Dallas as much as how well they are playing even with the 6 game win streak I feel Dallas will need to play better (mainly rebound save Ny game) anybody that has watched SA lately compared to there first 35 games or so, sees that they aren't playing with the same rythym and aren't getting the open shots they were earlier in the year

Well, naturally teams are going to adjust as the season wears on. The Spurs offense took everyone by surprise, especially with players like Neal and what not, but now everyone seems to be getting up for them. Even if the Spurs aren't shooting as well as they did when the season began, their defense has come a long way since then, top 6 in the league right now (not as good as Dallas's obviously), and to me that's more important. And it's not like they've slowed down in pace, I mean if you're going to go 41-8 while playing above average only, then it'd be scary to see this team reach their potential.

Best of luck to you guys, you're looking much better now that Dirk is feeling better. Would be great to have another playoff series, as those are usually classic between the two teams

CadBane · 02-04-2011, 03:12 AM

It means when Miller looked in Wade's direction, LBJ brushed his arm and shook his head. It's fairly straight forward, he did it even more demonstrably on the previous inbounds (in which the ensuing fts gave LBJ point #50....)

CadBane · 02-04-2011, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan

Could always pull a Cadbane.

You mean get banned for doing the same thing other posters do while they go unscathed due to a flawed and unjust bias by TPTB?

CadBane · 02-04-2011, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by dirno2000

I watched the play live and after I read your post ( but before I commented) I went back and dissected it with the DVR. You on the other hand thought James Jones, not Mike Miller, inbounded the ball on the play.

Wade was wide open but that's on the passer.

You made a bad point...it happens.

You sure do like talking out of your ass, don't you? I made a point to note that I couldn't really recall who inbounded it.

* It's not on the passer. WHY do you think MM didn't pass it to a WIDE open Wade? Is he stupid? Is he blind? No. LBJ clearly demanded the ball despite being tightly covered. Miller even looked at Wade first and then hesitated. Use some common sense.

dirno2000 · 02-04-2011, 03:33 AM

So in summary you weren't paying close enough attention to know if the inbounder was white or black but you do know that in a split second Lebron non-verbally communicated to Miller (or Jones) that under no circumstances was he to throw the ball to an open Wade because Lebron needed 53 (51 wasn't enough). And, you're going to stick with this despite the fact that since the play was reviewed by the refs TNT showed multiple angles, none of which show Lebron waving off Wade or Miller even looking in Wade's direction.

ok

fluid.forty.one · 02-04-2011, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan

Could always pull a Cadbane.

lol true. it's obviously effective.

CadBane · 02-04-2011, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by dirno2000

So in summary you weren't paying close enough attention to know if the inbounder was white or black but you do know that in a split second Lebron non-verbally communicated to Miller (or Jones) that under no circumstances was he to throw the ball to an open Wade because Lebron needed 53 (51 wasn't enough). And, you're going to stick with this despite the fact that since the play was reviewed by the refs TNT showed multiple angles, none of which show Lebron waving off Wade or Miller even looking in Wade's direction.

ok

Exept it clearly did show that. Ok.

Big Boy Laroux · 02-04-2011, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by j0Shi

While watching tonights games I wonder why NBA referees tend to make the most out of their calls. One example is an offensive foul call by the referee standing at the baseline who typically storms two or three steps onto the court before announcing the foul. Never saw such profiling on other american sports.

Occasionally reminds me of how it would look on a soccer field:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBQY5...eature=related

Don't know which game or play you're talking about, but I'm sure the ref was Joey Crawford.

Big Boy Laroux · 02-04-2011, 10:00 AM

Cad, sorry man, but you don't have a leg to stand on here.

After "The Decision", i have become one of the biggest Lebron haters out there. But he absolutely did not wave off Miller/Wade/anybody.

he did what EVERY basketball player is taught to do in that situation - go TO the ball, present your hands where you want the pass, to make it easier on the inbounder.

That turnover is 98% Miller's fault. he should have passed to Wade, he should have seen Richardson coming up on Lebron.

Lebron does own the other 2% of the blame, simply because he should have blocked Richardson with his body while coming back to the ball.

CadBane · 02-04-2011, 04:47 PM

Watch the inbounds play before that one where LBJ needed the FTS for point #50. Go back and watch that whole play and tell me what you see. Watch carefully.

Big Boy Laroux · 02-04-2011, 04:57 PM

i don't care about the play before. No one does. We are talking about the last play, where the turnover occurred. The play you originally brought up. Lebron didn't pull the ball out of Miller's hands using the force.

jthig32 · 02-04-2011, 05:25 PM

I see the same thing. Just a guy going to the ball and being an option.

I wish it was something I could hate him for. But it's not.

LonghornDub · 02-04-2011, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CadBane

You mean get banned for doing the same thing other posters do while they go unscathed due to a flawed and unjust bias by TPTB?

I think this is my favorite d-m motif. Perfected by creditXpert himself.

sefant77 · 02-04-2011, 07:46 PM

Iggy in the 1st

9min
0-1 FG
0p
0r
9a

lol

CadBane · 02-04-2011, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

I think this is my favorite d-m motif. Perfected by creditXpert himself.

Are you implying that I'm another poster? You pulled this shtick last year and a mod called you out on the I.P. address. I dk even know who the f**k that is.

CadBane · 02-04-2011, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Boy Laroux

i don't care about the play before. No one does. We are talking about the last play, where the turnover occurred. The play you originally brought up. Lebron didn't pull the ball out of Miller's hands using the force.

This is the last I'll say on the subject.

And the previous play is germane, regardless if you care or not, because it set precedent for THIS play. Miller looked at Wade, Wade was wide open. LBJ shook his head. Said something (I'm not a lip reader, but context, people) and Miller forced a pass to a highly contested LBJ over a wide open Wade. You do the math.

I guess you guys just think MM is the Helen Keller of the NBA and couldn't see a wide open Wade, despite looking right at him. That's your take, okay.

LonghornDub · 02-04-2011, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CadBane

Are you implying that I'm another poster? You pulled this shtick last year and a mod called you out on the I.P. address. I dk even know who the f**k that is.

No, I'm not implying that at all. And no, I didn't ever say that about you. And no, a mod never "called me out" about anyone's IP address. 0-3.

It's clear you're not him because you are much more intelligent than him. But you do the same "unfair persecution" bit, which is just too funny for so, so many reasons.

Big Boy Laroux · 02-04-2011, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CadBane

This is the last I'll say on the subject.

And the previous play is germane, regardless if you care or not, because it set precedent for THIS play. Miller looked at Wade, Wade was wide open. LBJ shook his head. Said something (I'm not a lip reader, but context, people) and Miller forced a pass to a highly contested LBJ over a wide open Wade. You do the math.

I guess you guys just think MM is the Helen Keller of the NBA and couldn't see a wide open Wade, despite looking right at him. That's your take, okay.

No one said miller didn't see wade - he obviously did. But he made the decision to pass to lebron because lebron was physically closer to him. He looked at wade, then saw lebron approaching from the right. In miller's mind, he thought the lebron pass was the better play, as he was closer. And it would have been the better play, if Richardson were not closing fast on lebron. Miller didn't see Richardson, so he made the pass to lebron. It's miller's job as the inbounder to see Richardson.

I've seen plays like this thousands of times, and been involved in them while playing as well. This was nothing out of the ordinary. Miller made a poor decision, lebron didn't protect the ball, and Richardson made a great play. Nothing more.

CadBane · 02-05-2011, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Boy Laroux

No one said miller didn't see wade - he obviously did. But he made the decision to pass to lebron because lebron was physically closer to him. He looked at wade, then saw lebron approaching from the right. In miller's mind, he thought the lebron pass was the better play, as he was closer. And it would have been the better play, if Richardson were not closing fast on lebron. Miller didn't see Richardson, so he made the pass to lebron. It's miller's job as the inbounder to see Richardson.

I've seen plays like this thousands of times, and been involved in them while playing as well. This was nothing out of the ordinary. Miller made a poor decision, lebron didn't protect the ball, and Richardson made a great play. Nothing more.

But I'm telling you he that on the play before the same thing happened, and LBJ visibly said something to the inbounder and shook his head. He also said something on that play. I'm saying LBJ didn't want Miller to inbounds it to Wade based on his actions. You didn't see that. I did. Nothing more to say since we clearly saw different things. I've been involved in countless similar plays as well. I played basketball at a pretty high level...but I never played with anyone so narcissistic as LBJ.

CadBane · 02-05-2011, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

No, I'm not implying that at all. And no, I didn't ever say that about you. And no, a mod never "called me out" about anyone's IP address. 0-3.

It's clear you're not him because you are much more intelligent than him. But you do the same "unfair persecution" bit, which is just too funny for so, so many reasons.

It was someone who accused me of being that poster and got called out. I thought it was you, if it wasn't, my apologies.

I don't see what's funny about it. I was banned unjustly.

CadBane · 02-05-2011, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by sefant77

Iggy in the 1st

9min
0-1 FG
0p
0r
9a

lol

Finished with 18 points and 16 assists. lol

LonghornDub · 02-05-2011, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by CadBane

It was someone who accused me of being that poster and got called out. I thought it was you, if it wasn't, my apologies.

I don't see what's funny about it. I was banned unjustly.

No, I myself find you to be rather unique.

Big Boy Laroux · 02-05-2011, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by CadBane

But I'm telling you he that on the play before the same thing happened, and LBJ visibly said something to the inbounder and shook his head. He also said something on that play. I'm saying LBJ didn't want Miller to inbounds it to Wade based on his actions. You didn't see that. I did. Nothing more to say since we clearly saw different things. I've been involved in countless similar plays as well. I played basketball at a pretty high level...but I never played with anyone so narcissistic as LBJ.

Link to the previous play?

I watched the turnover play about 15 times. If lebron said anything, it was a split second to say "mike" or something like that. Although it wasn't evident that he said anything at all.

Dammit, you played at a high level - trumped by a middle school starter!

LonghornDub · 02-05-2011, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Boy Laroux

Dammit, you played at a high level - trumped by a middle school starter!

I can now officially confirm what many have suspected for months: Cad is actually Shawn Bradley.

CadBane · 02-05-2011, 12:19 AM

Chris Dudley, actually!

sefant77 · 02-05-2011, 12:31 AM

Suns got screwed by the refs...well against (of course) the new darlings Thunder

Underdog · 02-05-2011, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by mavs777

I believe it was underdog who talked about Memphis sneaking into the playoffs they came back against Orlando and have now won 6 of 7, Im still not sold because we have seen this story with them before, but Conley is playing the point at the highest level of his career, and Sam Young is that perfect glue guy that never does anything stupid or selfish

With Portland's loss tonight, Memphis is now the 8th seed in the West.

CadBane · 02-05-2011, 01:06 AM

Some chippy games today.

dalger · 02-05-2011, 01:32 AM

I'd like the Thunder to make push for 3rd in the West and have the Lakers finish 4th. Wishful thinking, I guess, but too nice of a scenario to give up on it just yet.

mac222b · 02-05-2011, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by CadBane

Chris Dudley, actually!

And to think, if only you could hit a damn free-throw! You'd probably be Governor of Oregon today.

xrobx · 02-05-2011, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by dalger

I'd like the Thunder to make push for 3rd in the West and have the Lakers finish 4th. Wishful thinking, I guess, but too nice of a scenario to give up on it just yet.

eh, i'm not even afraid of the lakers. the thunder would be just as tough of a matchup imo. durant gets more superstar calls than kobe does nowadays.

dude1394 · 02-05-2011, 11:01 AM

Well I just want to toss in that the Blake play was a sure fire flagrant 2 and I wouldn't be averse to a longer suspension. I don't care if he's going for the ball or not, this game cannot allow someone to full-speed body-block someone else.

Big Boy Laroux · 02-05-2011, 11:22 AM

Have to say i disagree on the longer suspension. and i'm not even sure on the flagrant call. this was all about the result being worse than the foul, a la stackhouse on joe johnson way back when (we all remember that, and it was rescinded). it was a hard foul no doubt, but a completely legit play.

sefant77 · 02-05-2011, 09:42 PM

Blazers pulling away in the 4th, poor Cavs