GDT: Mavericks @ Hornets 11/4/2009 8:30CST - Page 18 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

GermanDunk · 11-05-2009, 12:26 AM

Ballgame

Bayliss · 11-05-2009, 12:26 AM

Mavs should just not let him on the plane tonight.

MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs · 11-05-2009, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan

Remember that game two years ago when Peja hit the tying three to send it to OT? We lost that game too.

No I don't remember, I got over it. Just like I'm over this game.

jasonkido · 11-05-2009, 12:27 AM

lol hornets are the greatest. Jasonkido!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dirkadirkastan · 11-05-2009, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

I'm tired of editing F bombs people. Chill.

I'll just put 'em back later.

Seriously, no one ever opens the middle pages of an old GDT anyway. Give it a rest.

Windmill360 · 11-05-2009, 12:28 AM

Ballgame as soon as pedgjgra hit the three. Everyone knew it.

WraithXx · 11-05-2009, 12:28 AM

f'ing PA announcer for the Hornets...

"WOOOOOOOoooooo...."

"GAY-OHHH!...... GAAAAY-OHHH!...."

f'ing annoying POS that I've wanted to kill for the past few years.

mavsfan1000 · 11-05-2009, 12:29 AM

The tags are correct. gay missed free throws. lol

Jon Avalon · 11-05-2009, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan

Remember that game two years ago when Peja hit the tying three to send it to OT? We lost that game too.

Kinda recall it, was that one also the first meeting of the season?

MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs · 11-05-2009, 12:29 AM

I think staying confident in ones team is important even during a loss. Just yesterday everybody was flying high on this team, now all the sudden this team sucks ass. I don't think we can really judge either way being that the season just started.

quietsavant · 11-05-2009, 12:29 AM

Jason terry goes 1-2 from the line
Jason terry misses technical free throw
JJB misses two free throws

And thats the play by play sequence that lost us the game.
Im not a fan of bitchn about the refs. We lost this game, refs had nothing to do with that

LonghornDub · 11-05-2009, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Windmill360

Ballgame as soon as pedgjgra hit the three. Everyone knew it.

Yep.

mary · 11-05-2009, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan

I'll just put 'em back later.

Seriously, no one ever opens the middle pages of an old GDT anyway. Give it a rest.

Maybe you're the one that should give it a rest, because its usually only you a few others that can't follow a few simple rules.

Buy a thesaurus.

GermanDunk · 11-05-2009, 12:30 AM

NOwitzki - NO win

jthig32 · 11-05-2009, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan

I'll just put 'em back later.

Seriously, no one ever opens the middle pages of an old GDT anyway. Give it a rest.

How about you just don't post them?

CadBane · 11-05-2009, 12:30 AM

I'm so sick of people defending JJB. How about that? Call a spade a spade. There's a reason 90% of the board here hates him. He's a 5 foot ball monopolizing PG who can't play defense, pounds the ball on offense, promotes a 3 guard lineup, forces shots at times, can't hit a clutch shot to save his life. So I don't really care if he can get in the paint and sometimes finish a lay-up. So can Flip Murray. He's still a scrub. JJB should not be getting this many minutes, especially this many 4th qtr. minutes, on an alleged Championship contender. It's unacceptable.

iella · 11-05-2009, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs

I think staying confident in ones team is important even during a loss. Just yesterday everybody was flying high on this team, now all the sudden this team sucks ass. I don't think we can really judge either way being that the season just started.

Your rationality has no place in the GDT. This is not a place for level-headedness.

RareMilk · 11-05-2009, 12:31 AM

We had to lose sooner or later but I was hoping it would be later...I was really looking forward for a nice streak of W's but whatevs

LSMF · 11-05-2009, 12:32 AM

Lol for some reason Im not mad. I think it hasnt fully dawned on me yet that we actually LOST this game.

CadBane · 11-05-2009, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by quietsavant

Im not a fan of bitchn about the refs. We lost this game, refs had nothing to do with that

They kind of did. Since they fouled Dirk out in the 4th Qtr. with two HORRIBLE calls.

MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs · 11-05-2009, 12:32 AM

It is what it is, I think being negative on your team when they lose a game = bad karma. Maybe the Dallas Mavericks have too many pessimistic fans and that's why they don't already have a ring.

LSMF · 11-05-2009, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by CadBane

I'm so sick of people defending JJB. How about that? Call a spade a spade. There's a reason 90% of the board here hates him. He's a 5 foot ball monopolizing PG who can't play defense, pounds the ball on offense, promotes a 3 guard lineup, forces shots at times, can't hit a clutch shot to save his life. So I don't really care if he can get in the paint and sometimes finish a lay-up. So can Flip Murray. He's still a scrub. JJB should not be getting this many minutes, especially this many 4th qtr. minutes, on an alleged Championship contender. It's unacceptable.

You're crazy man, Flip murray is a beast and he's way better than JJ Barea

jthig32 · 11-05-2009, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by CadBane

I'm so sick of people defending JJB. How about that? Call a spade a spade. There's a reason 90% of the board here hates him. He's a 5 foot ball monopolizing PG who can't play defense, pounds the ball on offense, promotes a 3 guard lineup, forces shots at times, can't hit a clutch shot to save his life. So I don't really care if he can get in the paint and sometimes finish a lay-up. So can Flip Murray. He's still a scrub. JJB should not be getting this many minutes, especially this many 4th qtr. minutes, on an alleged Championship contender. It's unacceptable.

This is so incredibly tiresome. We get it, you dislike him. It's not uncommon for people to have irrational dislike for a player and only see his faults (and create some that aren't there).

grp05 · 11-05-2009, 12:34 AM

I'm pretty sure we don't have rings because we can't put teams away.

SlimBig · 11-05-2009, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs

I think staying confident in ones team is important even during a loss. Just yesterday everybody was flying high on this team, now all the sudden this team sucks ass. I don't think we can really judge either way being that the season just started.

No one's saying this team sucks. Just that they choked.

mavsfan1000 · 11-05-2009, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by grp05

I'm pretty sure we don't have rings because we can't put teams away.

That's been our problem forever. We just don't protect leads. It is very frustrating to see teams make comebacks against us.

CadBane · 11-05-2009, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

This is so incredibly tiresome. We get it, you dislike him. It's not uncommon for people to have irrational dislike for a player and only see his faults (and create some that aren't there).

See, conversely, what I find tedious is people going out of their way to DEFEND JJB and extol/apologize for him despite his discernible negative effect on this team. Seeing as most people on this board dislike him, I wouldn't say my dislike is simply an innate hate for the man.

quietsavant · 11-05-2009, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by CadBane

They kind of did. Since they fouled Dirk out in the 4th Qtr. with two HORRIBLE calls.

Yet, we were up 3pts, with 9 secs to go. And missed 3 straight free throws that would've made it a 6pts lead with 9secs to go. Refs had Nothing to do with that. We lost this game. period. refs can call whatever ticky tack fouls, and it wouldn't change that. We lost this game.

xrobx · 11-05-2009, 12:40 AM

we lost, but i'm not really upset. we played a good game and easily could have and should have won. without dirk, they're lost out there. he fouled out with some horrible calls, and after that nobody could guard west or score for us besides jet. i'm pretty much over barea. all of his minutes should go to rodrigue beaubois and he should be sent back to the d leagues. i was really impressed by the play of erick dampier.

when you figure that dirk had a shitty game, marion had a shitty game, everyone besides jet and dampier had shitty games howard was still out, it's actually amazing we were even in a position to win in the first place.

Dtownsfinest · 11-05-2009, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by CadBane

I'm so sick of people defending JJB. How about that? Call a spade a spade. There's a reason 90% of the board here hates him. He's a 5 foot ball monopolizing PG who can't play defense, pounds the ball on offense, promotes a 3 guard lineup, forces shots at times, can't hit a clutch shot to save his life. So I don't really care if he can get in the paint and sometimes finish a lay-up. So can Flip Murray. He's still a scrub. JJB should not be getting this many minutes, especially this many 4th qtr. minutes, on an alleged Championship contender. It's unacceptable.

Where in the hell were you at when Barea got that charge? Because i'm going back and you didn't say one word or am I missing it?

LSMF · 11-05-2009, 12:41 AM

If you blame this loss on the refs, then you're____________

chumdawg · 11-05-2009, 12:43 AM

It's just missed free throws, guys. It happens all the time. It happened to Dirk in the Finals, for goodness sakes.

JJB is a choke artist because one of those throws didn't fall, is that it? No mention of the near-unbelievable drawing of a charge against Chris freakin' Paul in that situation?

I'm not here to tell you JJB was great tonight, but I'm here to tell you that if you think we would have won the game if he was stuck in the locker room with a bad case of the trots, and all was equal...well, I'm certainly not seeing that.

Dtownsfinest · 11-05-2009, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by xrobx

we lost, but i'm not really upset. we played a good game and easily could have and should have won. without dirk, they're lost out there. he fouled out with some horrible calls, and after that nobody could guard west or score for us besides jet. i'm pretty much over barea. all of his minutes should go to rodrigue beaubois and he should be sent back to the d leagues. i was really impressed by the play of erick dampier.

when you figure that dirk had a shitty game, marion had a shitty game, everyone besides jet and dampier had shitty games howard was still out, it's actually amazing we were even in a position to win in the first place.

Exactly. We're 3-2. 3-2 means nothing in a NFL season. IN a 82 game season? There's plenty of basketball left. Sucks we lost but whatever. You can't win them all on a back to back. More than likely you're going to go 1/2 in back to back games. They won their game. It sucks that we basically had this game won but its whatever. On to....who do the Mavs play next anyway?

mary · 11-05-2009, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by chumdawg

It's just missed free throws, guys. It happens all the time. It happened to Dirk in the Finals, for goodness sakes.

JJB is a choke artist because one of those throws didn't fall, is that it? No mention of the near-unbelievable drawing of a charge against Chris freakin' Paul in that situation?

I'm not here to tell you JJB was great tonight, but I'm here to tell you that if you think we would have won the game if he was stuck in the locker room with a bad case of the trots, and all was equal...well, I'm certainly not seeing that.

What this guy said.

jthig32 · 11-05-2009, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by CadBane

See, conversely, what I find tedious is people going out of their way to DEFEND JJB and extol/apologize for him despite his discernible negative effect on this team. Seeing as most people on this board dislike him, I wouldn't say my dislike is simply an innate hate for the man.

I don't think you're correct in saying that most people on the board dislike him.

JJB is absolutely not a net negative for this team. He certainly wasn't last season. He wasn't very good tonight, I'll give you that. To be fair, he's being extended further than he should due to injuries.

CadBane · 11-05-2009, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

Where in the hell were you at when Barea got that charge? Because i'm going back and you didn't say one word or am I missing it?

Please. One of two things happened there.

1. JJB flopped. IF he flopped, it was stupid and risky because he already got burned twice trying that and you know CP3 will get the call 99.9% of the time.

I'm more incline to believe option two though, because that's what it looked like to me.

2. CP3 foolishly blatantly pushed off. Seeing as JJB is a midget, he flew ten feet. The push off was so obvious they had to call it.

I don't really see how that's great D by JJB. More CP3 being an idiot and the refs making a rare right call. What would you have said had they not called an offensive foul and CP3 hit the wide open three?

And really, you're going to talk about defense by JJB on a guy who had, what, 40 points on 80% shooting?

Dtownsfinest · 11-05-2009, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by chumdawg

It's just missed free throws, guys. It happens all the time. It happened to Dirk in the Finals, for goodness sakes.

JJB is a choke artist because one of those throws didn't fall, is that it? No mention of the near-unbelievable drawing of a charge against Chris freakin' Paul in that situation?

I'm not here to tell you JJB was great tonight, but I'm here to tell you that if you think we would have won the game if he was stuck in the locker room with a bad case of the trots, and all was equal...well, I'm certainly not seeing that.

I agree. No reason to panic. I don't like Barea myself but I don't get the need to punish him for missed free throws. It was a fluke. But missing 3 in a row? That's unbelievable. I was for sure we won this game up 3 with JET at the line shooting a technical.

SlimBig · 11-05-2009, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

This is so incredibly tiresome. We get it, you dislike him. It's not uncommon for people to have irrational dislike for a player and only see his faults (and create some that aren't there).

Why is it tiresome? There is no defense for JJB. He provides an occasional spark of the bench and can have an occassional big game but his faults are fatally deterimental to the team. His defense is atrocious minus the occasional charges he draws against the Pauls, Parkers and Nashs of the game but his soft double team in the post and defensive rotations are so below average that it allows the opponent to score or get or other players in foul trouble because it throws the whole defense off.

On offense, he pounds the ball for the majority of the shotclock looking for only HIS shot. If he doesn't see a lane or a garbage three pointer, he passes it off to someone with 5-4 secs left on the clock. I don't understand why Carlisle runs him at point and Kidd and shooting guard in the 3 guard or 2 point guard rotation. If Barea's gonna be a scorer he needs to take the Eddie House roll and jack without dominating the ball.

I think Roddy has shown enough in this game to eat some of his minutes this season until he's ready to take JJB role over completely.

Dtownsfinest · 11-05-2009, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by CadBane

Please. One of two things happened there.

1. JJB flopped. IF he flopped, it was stupid and risky because he already got burned twice trying that and you know CP3 will get the call 99.9% of the time.

I'm more incline to believe option two though, because that's what it looked like to me.

2. CP3 foolishly blatantly pushed off. Seeing as JJB is a midget, he flew ten feet. The push off was so obvious they had to call it.

I don't really see how that's great D by JJB. More CP3 being an idiot and the refs making a rare right call. What would you have said had they not called an offensive foul and CP3 hit the wide open three?

And really, you're going to talk about defense by JJB on a guy who had, what, 40 points on 80% shooting?

Let me tell you something I think JJ is a bum. I'd rather Roddy gets the play. I think JJ is a liability myself. I hate his flopping. His flopping gave CP3 a open 3. I hate flopping in general. More bad comes from flopping then good IMO. Especially when you get ZERO respect from the refs. But please. The guy made a great defensive play in the clutch. Give credit where its due. I didn't see you do so but you were quick to point out his missed free throws. That's all i'm saying. Trust me. You don't have to convince me JJ is a bum. I know he is.

CadBane · 11-05-2009, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

I agree. No reason to panic. I don't like Barea myself but I don't get the need to punish him for missed free throws. It was a fluke. But missing 3 in a row? That's unbelievable. I was for sure we won this game up 3 with JET at the line shooting a technical.

Lmao! Did you graduate from the Josh Howard school of "Can't control what the ball do yall!"?

How is JJB missing 2 ft's a fluke? It's called choking. Maybe if he just missed one and it rolled in and out, or he had a track record of being clutch. Neither are the case. He was clearly nervous and he alligator-armed both of them. He choked, plain and simple. Just like he panicked a jacked up 2 or 3 of the stupidest threes I've ever seen in my life late in the 4th and in OT.