Official 2008-2009 NBA Thread - Page 19 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

basketballgirl25 · 01-01-2009, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

How could you not like the mavs. Mom's apple pie with vanilla ice cream. Boy's having their hands over their hearts during the national anthem. Boys without gangsta' ties and tattoos??

And of course all of those texas studs???

How could I not like the mavs? Truth be told I prob would like the mavs if Mark Cuban didn't own them. I hate that man so much and my hate is worse because he is a hero for my crazy aunt. Trust me my aunt is really crazy and she doesn't like the mavs because doesn't watch sports. I'd like the mavs if Mark Cuban had nothing to do with them. I hated Steve Nash and when he left I started to loving him as a player.

Underdog · 01-01-2009, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by basketballgirl25

How could I not like the mavs? Truth be told I prob would like the mavs if Mark Cuban didn't own them. I hate that man so much and my hate is worse because he is a hero for my crazy aunt. Trust me my aunt is really crazy and she doesn't like the mavs because doesn't watch sports. I'd like the mavs if Mark Cuban had nothing to do with them. I hated Steve Nash and when he left I started to loving him as a player.

I know how you feel - I used to like D-M.com until you showed up...

(I guess all it takes is one person to ruin a good thing...)

basketballgirl25 · 01-01-2009, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

I know how you feel - I used to like D-M.com until you showed up...

(I guess all it takes is one person to ruin a good thing...)

well at least you know how I feel about Cuban

and don't worry good news for you is, that you will only have to put up with me till Febuary 21st, then I'll be traveling for 7 monthes to different places. I will prob have to hear about Cuban even in all the places I go also. so you get lucky since I won't have a computer with me.

spreedom · 01-01-2009, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by basketballgirl25

well at least you know how I feel about Cuban

and don't worry good news for you is, that you will only have to put up with me till Febuary 21st, then I'll be traveling for 7 monthes to different places. I will prob have to hear about Cuban even in all the places I go also. so you get lucky since I won't have a computer with me.

Any chance I could persuade you to leave earlier? Please?

basketballgirl25 · 01-01-2009, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by spreedom

Any chance I could persuade you to leave earlier? Please?

yeah, send me $500 bucks in the mail and I will. Got to have money for when I cruise you know

fluid.forty.one · 01-01-2009, 02:12 PM

hungover america deserves NBA games

basketballgirl25 · 01-01-2009, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by fluid.forty.one

hungover america deserves NBA games

football is better when hungover

monty55555 · 01-03-2009, 08:11 PM

Apparently, Devin is injured? I think it happened at the Atlanta game last night.

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MIAMI - Devin Harris' only comment pre-game, delivered through Nets PR:

"Sore hamstring, day-to-day."

He's out.

So that day is not today. Harris is a scratch for the game here with the Heat because of the hamstring he tweaked - or whatever he did - Friday against the Hawks. Keyon Dooling gets the start.

"We've got a lot to make up for, that's for sure, if he can't play," team president Rod Thorn said.

They've wanted to add a third point guard all along but are up against a rock and a hard place of 15 contracts. Unless they do a 2-for-1 trade or cut somebody outright, there's little chance of adding a third point. Ten day contracts can start this week - but even that is no remedy unless the Nets New Jersey Nets get out from one of their existing deals.

http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/nets/.../no_devin.html

basketballgirl25 · 01-03-2009, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by monty55555

Apparently, Devin is injured? I think it happened at the Atlanta game last night.

http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/nets/.../no_devin.html

yeah it did, in like the last period or so, he finished the game last night, which I thought he should have sat, but you know whatever. I'm happy because even without Harris we are beating Heat right now.

Mavdog · 01-03-2009, 08:44 PM

the latest from the houston chron. it's getting pretty ugly.
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I'm sittin' on the dock of the bay
Watchin' the tide roll away, ooh
I'm just sittin' on the dock of the bay
Wastin' time.

Mark it down.

It was Jan. 2, 2009, 1:16 left in the third quarter, when there was a seismic shift in the Rockets' world, when the tectonic plates opened up and swallowed an era.

The official play-by-play sheet simply says: Jamario Moon slam dunk.

Anybody who was watching at the Air Canada Centre or on TV knows it was the precise moment that Tracy McGrady quit on the Rockets.

Yao Ming knows it. You could read it all over his scowling face as he sat on the bench through the final embarrassing minutes of horrid game.

Rick Adelman knows it. You could read it between the lines of his post-game comments when he said he would not talk about any individual performances.

Ron Artest knows it. You could tell that a week ago when Artest dragged his sore and ballooning right ankle onto the court to gut out an overtime win against the Jazz when McGrady made himself a late scratch during the post parade.

Leslie Alexander knows it and Daryl Morey knows it and every one of McGrady's teammates knows it.

One could hope that Dikembe Mutombo was back in Houston watching and will arrive in Atlanta with his leadership in the form of a big stick.

Truth be told, it wouldn't make a difference, wouldn't matter. It would only elicit a few more whimpering excuses from McGrady and more disappointment down the line.

Oh, it was so much more than just 2-for-9 shooting and 4 points in 27 minutes. It was aimless shuffling around the court on offense and defense. It was standing five feet behind the 3-point line, feet rooted to one spot, and simply playing pitch and catch with the ball.

It was Moon driving in from the right side of the basket and seeing McGrady stop running, practically hold the door open and offering to carry Moon's books home from school as he went by for a dunk that would have been more contested in the pre-game layup line.

"McGrady could have made some kind of effort," said veteran play-by-play man Bill Worrell.

"You don't just give somebody an open dunk," said color commentator Matt Bullard.

For crying out loud, these guys are paid employees of the team and they had the guts and integrity to say out loud what everybody sitting at home and falling off their sofas knows.

It was the body language from the opening minutes of the game to the bitter, pathetic end that screamed out loud that McGrady would rather have been any other place on the planet than on that court with that team.

It is a waste of time and effort to go back over all of his empty promises and contradictions from the start of training camp or over his four-plus seasons in Houston.

Just say this: He is an extraordinary talent - T-Mac - who is capable of taking your breath away. Yet as a competitor - Tiny Tim-mac - he can be blown away in a gentle breeze.

This is not the first time that McGrady has revealed himself, having bailed out on the Raptors as an up-and-coming phenom and quit - flat-out admitting publicly that he didn't try - on the Magic to get himself traded out of Orlando.

Thus, it was only a matter of when it would happen to the Rockets. They paid him a sultan's fortune. They coddled him. They praised him. They made every excuse and accommodation for him.

After the Utah fiasco, he promised Morey and Adelman that he would increase his energy level and play hard. The general manager and head coach put their own egos aside and agreed to an unprecedented - and preposterous - notion that he would only have to play one game in back-to-back sets.

Then McGrady went out on Friday night (he's already planning to sit Saturday in Atlanta) and half-stepped it against the Raptors, never getting himself into the game, never finding a rhythm and, ultimately, walking out the back door on them.

This was more than just the latest in a sickly string of games where he's scored 12, 4, 11, 15, 7 and 4 points (8.8 avg.) and shot 20-63 (.317). It was the night when the Rockets organization - everyone from front office to the last player on the end of the bench - had their darkest fears about T-Mac confirmed.

Oh, the Rockets likely won't trade him away. They have themselves boxed in with his huge contract and his deteriorating body.

What they need to do at this point is move on without him. Turn the page on the McGrady Era. The team belongs now to Yao and Ron-Ron - a couple of guys who never shortchange you on effort - and a supporting cast that is pretty damn good.

If McGrady wants to rehab his sore left knee or run off to a retreat and get his chakras back in balance, let him. If he wants to return to the club somewhere down the road in a few weeks or few months and contribute a few - or a few dozen - big buckets in a playoff game, well, they'll be appreciated. But they won't be expected.

Because with 1:16 left in the third quarter on a Friday night in Toronto, Jamario Moon's red-carpet-escort dunk slammed home a point that some of the Rockets had begun to suspect. They can never truly count on T-Mac again. Ever.

Quitting is the stain that won't wash out.

Posted by Fran Blinebury at 10:14 PM

LonghornDub · 01-03-2009, 09:11 PM

Rockets down 4 in Atlanta with 3.5 minutes left.

LonghornDub · 01-03-2009, 09:22 PM

Rockets lose. The preseason "contenders" now have 2 more losses than the lowly Mavs.

Windmill360 · 01-03-2009, 09:32 PM

rockets lose!

"I don't play on the second night of back to backs no mo"

basketballgirl25 · 01-03-2009, 09:33 PM

Denver and Hornets should be a good game tonight hopefully Denver wins so they can be one of the top teams in the west

fluid.forty.one · 01-03-2009, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavdog

The general manager and head coach put their own egos aside and agreed to an unprecedented - and preposterous - notion that he would only have to play one game in back-to-back sets.

WHAT?!??!

MavsFanFinley · 01-03-2009, 11:26 PM

Love watching the Rockets lose.

Parker with a jumper to beat Philly at the buzzer. I forget how many points the Spurs were up but Philly came back before the Spurs pulled it out.

Denver up 3 with 35 seconds or so left. They were up 20 something before NO came back to make it interesting.

Stranger · 01-03-2009, 11:42 PM

He didn't play in this game, but am I correct in thinking that Ron Artest is now coming off the bench? He's shooting only 37%--makes me less regretful about not picking him up last summer.

LonghornDub · 01-04-2009, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by MavsFanFinley

Love watching the Rockets lose.

Parker with a jumper to beat Philly at the buzzer. I forget how many points the Spurs were up but Philly came back before the Spurs pulled it out.

Denver up 3 with 35 seconds or so left. They were up 20 something before NO came back to make it interesting.

It was Spurs 40, 6ers 19 after 1 quarter. Disappointed to see that Philly came all the way back and the Spurs still ended up winning, but what you gonna do.

DevinHarriswillstart · 01-04-2009, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

Rockets lose. The preseason "contenders" now have 2 more losses than the lowly Mavs.

Just take out the pre in preason and swap it with the con in contender. That describes what Houston is every single season since Yao/Tmac teamed up.

What I can't let go is how every analyst/commentator/writer thinks that having those two guys makes you a championship contender. I'd surely like to see some proof of that one of these days. They are hardly one even with Artest.

The Tmac/Yao duo may go down as maybe the most overrated star pair in NBA history.

DOMINATOR · 01-04-2009, 02:03 AM

tmac quit against the raptors. almost every single rockets fan is calling for his head.
time for a trade.

LonghornDub · 01-04-2009, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DOMINATOR

tmac quit against the raptors. almost every single rockets fan is calling for his head.
time for a trade.

That's pretty funny.

alby · 01-04-2009, 03:17 AM

lol at the Suckston Rockettes

basketballgirl25 · 01-04-2009, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

The Tmac/Yao duo may go down as maybe the most overrated star pair in NBA history.

yeah they will along with Dirk being overrated also, I know not one single person that puts, any three of those players down even if they suck if a game, if someone trys to tell me they are better then Lebron or Wade again in the next month I will have to hurt people. Yao and Dirk are the most overrated players in the league

vmac · 01-04-2009, 12:48 PM

^ What's with the picture?

MaVs 41 BaLler · 01-04-2009, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by basketballgirl25

yeah they will along with Dirk being overrated also, I know not one single person that puts, any three of those players down even if they suck if a game, if someone trys to tell me they are better then Lebron or Wade again in the next month I will have to hurt people. Yao and Dirk are the most overrated players in the league

Wtf that pic is unnecessary.

Also Dirk is not overrated. Yao is overrated and over respected.

Dirk is under respected. No one respects the things that Dirk has done.

Yao has not accomplished anything besides being tall and Chinese.
There's a major difference between the two.

basketballgirl25 · 01-04-2009, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MaVs 41 BaLler

Wtf that pic is unnecessary.

Also Dirk is not overrated. Yao is overrated and over respected.

Dirk is under respected. No one respects the things that Dirk has done.

Yao has not accomplished anything besides being tall and Chinese.
There's a major difference between the two.

Dirk is overrated too, not as a player but by fans. At least fans put Yao down I mean really. Mavs lost in 2006 to heat you blame the refs, mavs lost last year in the playoffs blame the coach, mavs lost a couple games this season people bash other players. If Dirk is really as great as he is he would have helpped the mavs win against the Heat, he just isn't as good as most people make him out to be, not that he isn't good just not as great as people say he is.

If it wasn't for Dirk fans I would like him and not find him overrated, of course he is kind of a boring player because mosty plays I see by him he fadesaway. Got to take to it the hoop

fluid.forty.one · 01-04-2009, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by basketballgirl25

Dirk is overrated too, not as a player but by fans.

That doesn't make any sense.

basketballgirl25 · 01-04-2009, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by fluid.forty.one

That doesn't make any sense.

yeah it does, it mean Dirk fans are the worst fans out there, simple as that ans fans ruin a player imo, ok deal with it

fluid.forty.one · 01-04-2009, 02:27 PM

You said essentially that "Dirk is not overrated as a player". What is he overrated as? A person?

and no, every team overrates their teams best player. Still, Dirk does not get nearly enough credit from the national media or the national public based on his accomplishments. Generally, Dirk is very, very underrated.

spreedom · 01-04-2009, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by basketballgirl25

yeah it does, it mean Dirk fans are the worst fans out there, simple as that ans fans ruin a player imo, ok deal with it

Jesus, you are unbearable.

DOMINATOR · 01-04-2009, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by basketballgirl25

yeah it does, it mean Dirk fans are the worst fans out there, simple as that ans fans ruin a player imo, ok deal with it

oh shutup. kobe fans are the worse. no one else even comes close and i dont even like dirk.

ty · 01-05-2009, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by fluid.forty.one

You said essentially that "Dirk is not overrated as a player". What is he overrated as? A person?

and no, every team overrates their teams best player. Still, Dirk does not get nearly enough credit from the national media or the national public based on his accomplishments. Generally, Dirk is very, very underrated.

Why try?

fluid.forty.one · 01-05-2009, 02:29 AM

There's maybe a 5% possibility that she's not a troll and she really is just a stupid girl who wants to talk basketball. Therefore, I'm gonna be an ahole to her 95% of the time and tell her why she's wrong the other 5%.

Or maybe you're right

basketballgirl25 · 01-05-2009, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by fluid.forty.one

There's maybe a 5% possibility that she's not a troll and she really is just a stupid girl who wants to talk basketball. Therefore, I'm gonna be an ahole to her 95% of the time and tell her why she's wrong the other 5%.

Or maybe you're right

yeah you trying keeps me coming back, if no one repiled back I would be gone

DevinHarriswillstart · 01-05-2009, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by basketballgirl25

yeah you trying keeps me coming back, if no one repiled back I would be gone

That isn't immature or anything.

Oh and Harris is probably out again due to injury so your beloved Nets will probably lose to the Kings.

Underdog · 01-05-2009, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Oh and Harris is probably out again due to injury so your beloved Nets will probably lose to the Kings.

That's the fourth or fifth time Devin Harris has missed a stretch of games due to injury since the Kidd trade...

How many games has Jason Kidd missed since then?

basketballgirl25 · 01-05-2009, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

That isn't immature or anything.

Oh and Harris is probably out again due to injury so your beloved Nets will probably lose to the Kings.

you don't have to tell me Harris is out I know that, heck i don't care if they lose. heck the best thing about watching Net games is Brook Lopez, he is great. We are not picked to win it all this year anyway so if we lose, and Lopez becomes better it is all good

basketballgirl25 · 01-05-2009, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

That's the fourth or fifth time Devin Harris has missed a stretch of games due to injury since the Kidd trade...

How many games has Jason Kidd missed since then?

and when is Kidd going to retire this year or next year?

truth sure Harris might have more injuries then Kidd, but it's a long season there is still a lot of time for Kidd to get hurt, the less he is on the floor during games the better him not getting hurt.

hamb · 01-05-2009, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by basketballgirl25

How could I not like the mavs? Truth be told I prob would like the mavs if Mark Cuban didn't own them. I hate that man so much and my hate is worse because he is a hero for my crazy aunt. Trust me my aunt is really crazy and she doesn't like the mavs because doesn't watch sports. I'd like the mavs if Mark Cuban had nothing to do with them. I hated Steve Nash and when he left I started to loving him as a player.

just curious, why do you hate Cuban so much?

I've met the guy, he's been nothing but generous, and when I was in college near dallas and I emailed him asking for tickets (long shot) he said sure and sent me 2 tickets in the lower section (worth approx. $120 each) so I have nothing but respect for the guy, but that is from my experiences. I am curious, what in your experience has made you hate the guy? I'm sure you have a valid reason.

ty · 01-05-2009, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

How many games has Jason Kidd missed since then?

I don't think he has missed any...but, he was benched by Avery in the last minutes of the Spurs game

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Originally Posted by hamb

I've met the guy, he's been nothing but generous, and when I was in college near dallas and I emailed him asking for tickets (long shot) he said sure and sent me 2 tickets in the lower section (worth approx. $120 each) so I have nothing but respect for the guy, but that is from my experiences. I am curious, what in your experience has made you hate the guy? I'm sure you have a valid reason.

Cool story.