05-06-2009, 12:27 AM
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Lmao at some of you defending RC. Rest Dirk, fine. But you damn well better run out
Kidd
Terry
AW or Singleton
Bass
Hollins or Damp
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Bass
That gives us NO center and ONE scoring option. Then he subbed Kidd in for Terry giving us NO center and NO scoring options!
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05-06-2009, 12:27 AM
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#722
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F**k the Nuggets....I feel bad for Dirk and Terry
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05-06-2009, 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by LonghornDub
No, dude, it's not on Carlisle. When your star player who has been carrying you all game says, "Coach, I need to sit out for about 2 minutes to rest because I've been going strong all game," you do it. There is absolutely no alternative.
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yes there is. He could keep Dirk in - he could keep Terry in.
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And I'm not knocking on Dirk. He had every right to ask for a couple minutes to rest with the way he played tonight.
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I am. That's weak. Dirk should also know that he's all the teams got right now. You can't leave it all on the court and leave a little on the bench, too.
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05-06-2009, 12:28 AM
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Wow if kidd would make those open 3's we would only be down by 3.
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05-06-2009, 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Thomas86
The Nuggets fan have no class just like there team...I'll be gald when this series is over the Nugggets get beat down by the Lakers.
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What exactly are the Nuggets fans doing to "represent" they have no class?
They are cheering for their team during a blowout win? I am sure the fans in Dallas would act much differant...eh?
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05-06-2009, 12:28 AM
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Well you guys wanted Dirk to drop 40 right? Well we all see how that works out...
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05-06-2009, 12:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CadBane
Lmao at some of you defending RC. Rest Dirk, fine. But you damn well better run out
Kidd
Terry
AW or Singleton
Bass
Hollins or Damp
NOT
JJB
Terry
Singleton
AW
Bass
That gives us NO center and ONE scoring option. Then he subbed Kidd in for Terry giving us NO center and NO scoring options!
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I like RC but agreed 100%... I saw that lineup roll out and my jaw dropped..
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05-06-2009, 12:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CadBane
Lmao at some of you defending RC. Rest Dirk, fine. But you damn well better run out
Kidd
Terry
AW or Singleton
Bass
Hollins or Damp
NOT
JJB
Terry
Singleton
AW
Bass
That gives us NO center and ONE scoring option. Then he subbed Kidd in for Terry giving us NO center and NO scoring options!
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How many scoring options does the first lineup give?
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05-06-2009, 12:29 AM
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lets try some kobe/lakers tactics and give dirk 30-40 shots a game...
+ give Jkidd his basketball IQ / hands back
lets go 2-0 at home...
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05-06-2009, 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by GoNugs
Well at least you can't blame this one on the officating.
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ya, its the players for sure.
you guys only got 40 freethrows so far.
fact is the nugs have been the better team at home.
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05-06-2009, 12:29 AM
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Why are Melo and Billups in? I hope they both get injured.
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05-06-2009, 12:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin
yes there is. He could keep Dirk in - he could keep Terry in.
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I'm glad you're not the coach, then. I'd say there's no quicker way to alienate your star player than refusing to give him 2 minutes of rest when he's carried the team all game.
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05-06-2009, 12:30 AM
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lol...Singleton attempted two 3 pointers tonight.
If that's not a harbinger of the off-season I don't know what is.
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05-06-2009, 12:30 AM
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RC needs to keep the straters in until they foul out...just give a few minutes to Hollins and Wright like I said before.
** I also have to agree that Dirk needs to be able to play a full game as well as Terry...that I need rest its the playoffs...PLAY
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05-06-2009, 12:31 AM
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It's a miracle we even made the 2nd round of the playoffs - Avery
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05-06-2009, 12:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LonghornDub
I'm glad you're not the coach, then. I'd say there's no quicker way to alienate your star player than refusing to give him 2 minutes of rest when he's carried the team all game.
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How about blowing another chance to steal an away game in the 2nd round of the playoffs by trotting out an idiotic lineup?
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05-06-2009, 12:32 AM
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Did anyone see our overpaid fatass "trash talking" center...
ah, another no show tonight...thanks for nothing ericka
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05-06-2009, 12:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GoNugs
What exactly are the Nuggets fans doing to "represent" they have no class?
They are cheering for their team during a blowout win? I am sure the fans in Dallas would act much differant...eh?
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I never heard a crowd chant "you can't beat us" in my life and I been looking a basketball since 2000.
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05-06-2009, 12:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LonghornDub
How many scoring options does the first lineup give?
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Don't try to be clever, because you're not. Yes, it still only has one, but it also isn't a HUGE liability on D like the lineup sporting JJB and NO center. And it at least gives Kidd a guy to get dunks on (Damp or Hollins).
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05-06-2009, 12:32 AM
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Look up and down the box score...
FG%, FT%, Rebounds, steals, blocks, assists, fouls, turnovers....every single category they beat our asses in. Every single damned one.
You know what this really tells us, don't you?
San Antonio sucks so freaking bad. Good Lord they suck.
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05-06-2009, 12:32 AM
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You can't defend Carlisle in this game. The game was lost from the start of the 4th to the 9 minute mark of the 4th.
If there is no Josh Howard you cannot site Dirk and Terry at the same time in the 4th quarter of a playoff game.
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05-06-2009, 12:33 AM
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There has been some good home cooking for Nuggs here. They got the bounces, got the FTs, made open looks and had the crowd. Dallas did not take care of the ball again, no Howard, missed open shots and looked tired in the 4th of both.
That said, Dallas is pretty good at home also.
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05-06-2009, 12:33 AM
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Remember that quarter when we held them to only 28 points?
Man, that was awesome.
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05-06-2009, 12:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin
How about blowing another chance to steal an away game in the 2nd round of the playoffs by trotting out an idiotic lineup?
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It would have happened either way, it just would have happened a few minutes later if he had left Dirk in there, because Dirk would have been completely gassed a few minutes later (his words, not mine).
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05-06-2009, 12:34 AM
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This will be over in 5. This is New Orleans part 2 down to the last drop.
We will win game 3, lose 4 and get closed out in 5.
I had faith and still have a tiny bit but you have to come to grips that Denver is just too good.
Oh, what's that?. I'm getting something in my headphones. Nene matched his career playoff high in game 1 only to break that 1 game later! Great!!
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05-06-2009, 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Flacolaco
San Antonio sucks so freaking bad. Good Lord they suck.
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remember how we were all crowing about how well Dallas closed out quarters?
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05-06-2009, 12:34 AM
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Well, that was pretty horrible. Good night guys. Can't wait for our poor Mavs to come back home...
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05-06-2009, 12:34 AM
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Barea hurt the Mavs more than he actually helped them.
I hate that midget lineup!
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05-06-2009, 12:35 AM
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I'll be dangerously honest and admit my primary objective in this game besides rooting for the Mavs was to decide once and for all whether the Nuggets pose any serious threat to the Lakers.
Note: I am NOT a fan of the Lakers, I'm not really a fan of any one team anymore. I'm just a fan of basketball, and of basketball being different from football, that is it.
The Nuggets are winning on the cheap and they are winning without any offensive scheme other than easy, cheap points off fast breaks. This is exactly like a football team relying on it's defense to get some stops (yielding better field position) and a turover or two or three. Then the offense of that football team has very little to do to win the game. Many, many games in football are won this way, maybe as many as 1/3 of them.
Although everyone knows defending is more intense and more important in the playoffs than it is in the regular season, it is not true that Championships or Conference finals have been won to any extent at all by teams doing what the Nuggets are doing. Were the Nuggets to beat both the Mavs and the Lakers, it would truly be a science fiction type of event.
So all the Lakers (or the Mavs, still) have to do is to man up and take care of the ball. This is not as difficult for a team to do as it may seem from watching the Nuggets games lately. The Nuggets have temporarily created an alternate universe here, where basketball is different than in our universe.
So I am confident that even if the Mavs keep turning it over, even if the Mavs keep being heavily victimized by the free points of the fast break, and even if the Mavs keep being hammered by the referees, so they lose this series 4-1 or whatever, that the Lakers will defeat the Nuggets and restore my faith in basketball.
Go Mavs, you have a good, quality team regardless of what happens in this series. Your team looked great for three quarters (again) and then the 4th turned goofy and didn't seem like basketball anymore.
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05-06-2009, 12:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas86
I never heard a crowd chant "you can't beat us" in my life and I been looking a basketball since 2000.
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And that's classless?
Look....Denver has had awful....AWFUL basketball teams for the better part of 30 years...they have had a very little success in that period...with a playoff run here or there...but it's been pretty scarce. Even with Carmello here....the Nuggets have had NO post season success. The Nuggets fans are excited.
Over the last 2 years...the nuggets are 10-1 against the Mavs....I'd say the chant rings a little true...and if the Mavs want to shut them up...they need to win their games at home. I suspect they win game 3. Game 4 will be the series decider...in my opinion.
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05-06-2009, 12:36 AM
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they did exactly what the 2 seed is supposed to do.
they took care of home court.
this is a series till somebody loses at home.
if it goes 7 games, which it easily could, dont think the thuggets lack of playoff experience as a team might not be exposed.
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05-06-2009, 12:36 AM
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Dallas can't hang with the Nuggets, they get owned in the 4th where it matters the most. Nuggets 4-0.
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05-06-2009, 12:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CadBane
Don't try to be clever, because you're not. Yes, it still only has one, but it also isn't a HUGE liability on D like the lineup sporting JJB and NO center. And it at least gives Kidd a guy to get dunks on (Damp or Hollins).
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I'm not "trying" to be anything, except capable of counting, which apparently gives me a leg up over you.
But seriously--it was really intelligent of you to note how the second lineup had only one scoring option, despite the fact that the first one had exactly the same number. Great stuff. That's stuff only Sagan can teach.
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05-06-2009, 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by LonghornDub
It would have happened either way, it just would have happened a few minutes later if he had left Dirk in there, because Dirk would have been completely gassed a few minutes later (his words, not mine).
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1st, you gotta push him. 2nd, if Denver doesn't get all full of themselves right away in the 4th, who knows what would have happened. 3rd, as has been mentioned, Damp and Hollins could have done something. Neither was perfect, but at least they were challenging folks. Bass has been as useless as Kidd.
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05-06-2009, 12:36 AM
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What a horrible ending. I turned it off when they went up 15. F that.
JET has become such a bad passer. He panics and god knows what is going to happen.
Damp has to finish once in a while he hasn't played near the Spurs series.
Kidd too, that horrific turnover after he had an open layup ended up being an assist... to Denver.
Josh was out, again. That sucks I guess.
The officiating once again was lopsided. A lot of hand checking and fouls off the ball especially. We just don't have that respected slasher to get to the calls they do. I don't get it.
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05-06-2009, 12:37 AM
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The Nuggets had four players with at least 18 points. We had three with at least 10...
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05-06-2009, 12:37 AM
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I don't care what the disciplinary actions are.
the Denver Nuggets.
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05-06-2009, 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by alby
I don't care what the disciplinary actions are.
the Denver Nuggets.
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Is this classy?
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05-06-2009, 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by GoNugs
And that's classless?
Look....Denver has had awful....AWFUL basketball teams for the better part of 30 years...they have had a very little success in that period...with a playoff run here or there...but it's been pretty scarce. Even with Carmello here....the Nuggets have had NO post season success. The Nuggets fans are excited.
Over the last 2 years...the nuggets are 10-1 against the Mavs....I'd say the chant rings a little true...and if the Mavs want to shut them up...they need to win their games at home. I suspect they win game 3. Game 4 will be the series decider...in my opinion.
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05-06-2009, 12:39 AM
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I don't see how Kidd was going to last if you kept him out there.
Dirk obviously needed the rest.
Damp was at 5 fouls, Hollins would be better if Kidd is out there.
So you're just running Jet out there with a bunch of support players. If you're already screwed either way, I'll go for broke and take my chances and hope the bench can hold up. It might've been a fluke, but they chipped in with scoring in the first half.
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