08-02-2008, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by seagullstalker35
no one has mentioned how terrible a shooter hughes is? hughes is a slightly better version of marquis daniels, although his contract makes him less desirable than daniels. hughes has good handles, decent passer, cant shoot a lick. he needs the ball in his hands to be effective. hughes wouldnt fit with this team.
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I tend to agree, however he does play really good defense.
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08-02-2008, 10:19 PM
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Larry Hughes is one of the worst players in the league. The dude hasn't shot over 41% from the field in the past 5 years. He can't rebound, he can't pass. Hughes has been a tremendous disappointment every place he's been and they can't wait to unload his worthless ass.
Do some of you not even watch the f'n NBA? Jeezus. It's not 2005 anymore.
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08-02-2008, 10:32 PM
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^ a bit much, but pretty close to the truth.
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08-05-2008, 11:32 PM
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Howard for Iguodala?????? Will this happen plus the Sixers throw in Willie Green to back-up Kidd?????? Very Interesting......Very Interesting....Very Interesting.....
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08-06-2008, 12:29 AM
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Willie Green to back up Kidd?
...do you watch the NBA?
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08-06-2008, 01:04 AM
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I'd want Hughes on my team.
.....if the team were a fantasy NBA team in a league where the only statistical category that counted was Steals Per Game, or if the league awarded bonus points for having a shooting guard who manages to shoot worse than your average 45 year old dad at the YMCA.
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08-06-2008, 09:17 AM
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Time seriously:
In '76 they need beside Miller/Brand/Dalembert shooters from outdoors they can create her own shoot. So PF Evans is available.
Mavs need young players, they give new impulses, move to the basket and can well defend.
Hawks probably want to pay attention to theirs salary, want to change the next year " after Bibby " something and have Williams on the position SF. You want to deliver to a departure of Smith absolutely Claxton with and would need as a countermove PF position, best of all to low costs;
Trade between Mavs / in '76 / Hawks:
Josh/Stack for Jguodala/Evans/Jason Smith .. Evans/Bass/Terry/09 First Pic for Smith/Claxton
Mavs..Diop/Damp..Nowitzki/Jason Smith..Josh Smith/Wrigth..Iguodala/Green..Kidd/Claxton
Hawks..Jones/Pachulia..Evans/Bass..Williams/Richardson..Johnson/Terry..Bibby/Terry
76..Dalembert/Randolph..Brand/Hill..Josh/Young..Stack/Green..Miller/Williams
What do you think?
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08-06-2008, 09:51 AM
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I think you smoke crack all the time! Especially while you are coming up with these trade ideas!
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08-06-2008, 10:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alby
Willie Green to back up Kidd?
...do you watch the NBA?
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Do you ?????????????? Willie Green has played the PG slot many times during games. He is cat quick, takes the ball strong to the basket, very good outside shot and plays tough hard nose defense. Does this not spell a very good back-up to Kidd, especially against bigger tougher PG? Willie is 6'4 and very solid built. This guy would excel in our system. He is exactly what we need at the PG slot at times. He can get to the basket at will and play solid tough defense on PG. I would rather have Willie Green at PG than J.J. ANYDAY of the week. Right now, we have J.J. as back-up to Kidd. I also would rather have Willie guarding Chris Paul, Parker, Nash, Deron W, Billups, Wade type players than J.J.
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08-06-2008, 10:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mbaur
Time seriously:
In '76 they need beside Miller/Brand/Dalembert shooters from outdoors they can create her own shoot. So PF Evans is available.
Mavs need young players, they give new impulses, move to the basket and can well defend.
Hawks probably want to pay attention to theirs salary, want to change the next year " after Bibby " something and have Williams on the position SF. You want to deliver to a departure of Smith absolutely Claxton with and would need as a countermove PF position, best of all to low costs;
Trade between Mavs / in '76 / Hawks:
Josh/Stack for Jguodala/Evans/Jason Smith .. Evans/Bass/Terry for Smith/Claxton
Mavs..Diop/Damp..Nowitzki/Jason Smith..Josh Smith/Wrigth..Iguodala/Green..Kidd/Claxton
Hawks..Jones/Pachulia..Evans/Bass..Williams/Richardson..Johnson/Terry..Bibby/Terry
76..Dalembert/Randolph..Brand/Hill..Josh/Young..Stack/Green..Miller/Williams
What do you think?
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Where do you come up with these trade ideas? Did the trade go through in NBA Live 08?
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08-06-2008, 10:36 AM
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Right now, JET is the backup PG/SG
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08-06-2008, 10:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alby
Right now, JET is the backup PG/SG
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Um, who's the starting SG?
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08-06-2008, 10:42 AM
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Some scrub =\
Even if JET started at SG, he would be the primary backup PG.
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08-06-2008, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by DIRKNOWITZKI
hoopshype.com says Larry Hughes to Mavs for Erick Dampier is in the works
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I think an interesting trade for Damp would be:
Damp + JHo + Eddie Jones to the Clippers for:
Kaman + Mobley + Thomas
The Ciipps give up Caveman but they also get rid of two very large contracts to aging vets. Damp becomes Camby's backup and JHo plays the SF with Thornton starting at PF. The Mavs get their low post scorer who is developing a chemistry with Dirk in the Olympics. True, the Mavs take on these aging vets for a couple of years, but Mobley played 35 mpg last year and he's a legitimate SG at 6'4". Thomas can be another shooter off the bench. Mavs might consider starting Dirk, Kaman, Kidd, Mobley, and Wright (at SF). The Mavs bench looks pretty good with JET, Bass, Diop, and Thomas.
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08-06-2008, 10:52 AM
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I'm still not sure why everyone is so high on Wright - I've seen too little of him to start him over Bass and he hasn't PROVEN anything more in a Mavs uniform than Gerald Green (at this point...)
I don't know if Kaman/Dirk/Wright/Mobley/Kidd is really any better than Damp/Dirk/Howard/JET/Kidd - it seems like we're trading a weakness at the 2 for a weakness at the 3 (so I guess it really depends on how much Kaman can actually bring to the table in Carlisle's system...)
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08-06-2008, 11:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alby
Some scrub =\
Even if JET started at SG, he would be the primary backup PG.
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Not sure if Carlisle would want to change back to JET being the starting SG. I would rather have the size there and the spark off the bench.
I agree Jet is Kidds backup.
Wright definitely HAS proven more than Green in a Mav uni. He played solid in the mins he got. He makes smart decisions most of the time, unlike Green.
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08-06-2008, 11:36 AM
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Quote:
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Wright definitely HAS proven more than Green in a Mav uni. He played solid in the mins he got. He makes smart decisions most of the time, unlike Green.
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"Solid" doesn't necessarily equal "starter" (especially on a "win-now" team...)
I'm just saying that I haven't seen anything more out of Wright than "role-player" (not that Green is better - they're just both unknowns when it comes to whether they can actually handle the responsibility of starting on a team that hopes to prove that the Kidd trade wasn't their biggest blunder since letting Nash walk...)
God, I hope we make a trade!
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08-06-2008, 11:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SMC0007
I think you smoke crack all the time! Especially while you are coming up with these trade ideas!
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Not the first one... Link. Although I would like the moves, they will never, never ever happen. But he has a great fantasy though
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08-06-2008, 01:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Underdog
"Solid" doesn't necessarily equal "starter" (especially on a "win-now" team...)
I'm just saying that I haven't seen anything more out of Wright than "role-player" (not that Green is better - they're just both unknowns when it comes to whether they can actually handle the responsibility of starting on a team that hopes to prove that the Kidd trade wasn't their biggest blunder since letting Nash walk...)
God, I hope we make a trade!
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Isn't 4th year often a breakout year for NBA players? Maybe Wright will impress us this year.
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08-06-2008, 01:50 PM
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I actually remember Wright doing some really good things towards the end of the season. I remember being impressed with his outside shot and his passing ability.
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08-06-2008, 01:53 PM
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Wright showed a lot in NJ which is a plus
but Green showed a lot in Boston as well
they are both pretty similar in terms of where they are in their respective NBA careers.. maybe one can become a solid contributor in the top 8 but we are talking about the starting shooting guard position here.
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08-06-2008, 02:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alby
Wright showed a lot in NJ which is a plus
but Green showed a lot in Boston as well
they are both pretty similar in terms of where they are in their respective NBA careers.. maybe one can become a solid contributor in the top 8 but we are talking about the starting shooting guard position here.
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You never know about young guys till you put them in that position.
I have no idea how any of the Mavs will be in a Carlisle system.
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08-06-2008, 02:49 PM
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I feel like we've seen more of substance from Wright at this point in their respective careers...
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08-06-2008, 06:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alby
Wright showed a lot in NJ which is a plus
but Green showed a lot in Boston as well
they are both pretty similar in terms of where they are in their respective NBA careers.. maybe one can become a solid contributor in the top 8 but we are talking about the starting shooting guard position here.
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I can see where you are going, I can agree with some of it, but not all of it. I don't think they are at the same points in their careers. I don't think Wright had the same kind of pub that Green was getting as he was coming out of high school or when Wright went into college. This might sound the same, but it's in the wording: Wright is trying to establish a career, Green is trying to salvage his.
I would say Wright is farther along than Green is. Wright seems to have the better sense of defense, and the court vision is there and the BBall IQ might be a little bit better with him as well. Green has better explosion and maybe a better stroke, but we just haven't seen either show their shooting consistently over substantial time period.
Neither are can't miss options at SG right now, but hopefully one or both can become that person we need. It's better to have multiple young options than none at all.
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08-06-2008, 08:19 PM
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is there a deal happening or what? i'm not buying it!
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08-06-2008, 10:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Underdog
Um, who's the starting SG?
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08-06-2008, 10:42 PM
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08-07-2008, 04:03 AM
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Is Hubert Davis still under contract?
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08-07-2008, 09:55 AM
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Quote:
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Where do you come up with these trade ideas? Did the trade go through in NBA Live 08?
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I am form Europe, here much more trades per periode, in Basketball, Football...
And it's true, i don't really understand the nba trade rules and motivation..
What's rong with this trades, all teams earns value on their new roster, salary or future planning, or not?
Don't play Computergames, but i am NBA fan, and i am dreaming of an play off trip, but for losing in the first round??
A old veteran is also thinking trade moves are to do:
http://mavsblog.dallasnews.com/archi...has-close.html
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08-16-2008, 09:49 AM
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I love it, but don't think it runs, Hawks need PF
Send Josh or someone for incoming PF and trade this one and Bass for Smith..
Do you love Smith too?
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