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Dirk
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Mavs
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I'm a pansy, I can't decide, and I like them both.
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04-04-2010, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by jthig32
Are there really that many people on this site that didn't root for the Mavs before Dirk was here?
Wow.
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I can't believe it either. I mean I know some Mavs fans personally who are just Dirk fans and only became a Mavs fan when Dirk became good. Its only natural. I'm sure Cavs got some fans to hop on the bandwaggon when Lebron came into the league. But I didn't realize it was this many Mavs fans. And I bet if you did a study on it outside of the internet it would be even more disturbing.
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04-05-2010, 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by jthig32
My obsession with the Mavs began with Kidd's rookie year and hasn't slowed down one bit since.
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Same here. I became a Mavs fan in Kidd's rookie year, am a Mavs fan to this very day, and will be one for long after Dirk leaves.
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04-05-2010, 05:26 AM
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Honestly, I became a Mavs fan because of Kidd. I was 8 years old when Kidd was drafted to the Mavs and he was the most exciting player I'd ever watched before. He and Penny Hardaway were my two favorite players at the time. Then he was traded and for whatever reason I still followed the Mavs. I just liked the franchise and I figured I've been following since '94, so why stop now? Then the Mavs drafted Dirk, Finley came into his own, Nash became a force and they became a must watch whenever they were on national TV. Now I can't get enough of this squad. I'm truly addicted. I remember vividly watching the playoff series vs. Utah on NBC and being so frantically excited when they won. One of the greatest sports moments of my life at the time.
To answer the question though. It's about the name on the front of the jersey. The names will change but I've always believed the alliance stays with the laundry. I do love Dirk though and I will be deeply saddened when he finally hangs em' up or if he goes to another team. It'd be the end of one of the more exciting periods in my sports viewing life and there would certainly be no promise that we'd ever be great like this again.
And for the record, I've never been to Texas in my life. But I love the Mavs, always will.
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04-05-2010, 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest
I can't believe it either. I mean I know some Mavs fans personally who are just Dirk fans and only became a Mavs fan when Dirk became good. Its only natural. I'm sure Cavs got some fans to hop on the bandwaggon when Lebron came into the league. But I didn't realize it was this many Mavs fans. And I bet if you did a study on it outside of the internet it would be even more disturbing.
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I'm not sure it's disturbing though. Lets be honest, the Mavs before Cuban didn't have the best track record. They were the door mats of the league for almost a decade. It's hard to keep a solid fanbase when you're struggling to win 30 games and there's no progression for that period of time. I think a lot of the fan base probably bolted as well when the 3 J's collapsed. For the first time since the late 80's the Mavs finally had 3 pieces they could legitimately build around, and they completely collapsed because of ego, attitude, and bad management. I respect anyone that went through those years, it must've made this past decade even sweeter.
Cuban and Dirk saved basketball in Dallas.
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04-05-2010, 06:31 AM
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I fell in love with Mavs basketball in 2002 with Don Nelson's style and been a Mavs fan ever since, I'm a fan of both Dirk and the Mavs and if Dirk where to go to another team I would still root for him unless he went to the Spurs.
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04-05-2010, 10:31 AM
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I voted for one of the tags.
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04-05-2010, 02:54 PM
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Ultimately i'm a mavs fan and if this squad doesn't atleast make it to the WCF this year, i'd think Dirk asking to be traded would be doing me a favor if i'm Mark Cuban. Dirk's a great player but he's been here for for a VERY long time with many different types of teams, everyone's said this is the best team he's been on and not every veteran player is fortunate enough to be in that position.
To be honest with you all, whenever we go into a game with another elite team i'm not so sure we'll come out victorious. We've come up so short many times in the Dirk era i'm just used losing with this team. Maybe if we found a way for a guy like Wade or Lebron to get here knowing we can properly build a team around them i'll feel differently.
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04-05-2010, 03:55 PM
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04-05-2010, 04:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JCmasta
To be honest with you all, whenever we go into a game with another elite team i'm not so sure we'll come out victorious.
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Sounds like a nasty case of "pro basketball" to me...
Didn't the Nets beat the Celtics and the Spurs this season?
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04-05-2010, 06:46 PM
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Dirk...
I'll probably stop watching NBA basketball for about a good two years after he retires... Going to be the worst day of my life...
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04-05-2010, 07:15 PM
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My dad had season tickets from 84'-90', so I am pretty much a die hard Maverick fan. Kidd and Dirk are the bonus.
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04-05-2010, 07:59 PM
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If I had to decide between Mavs ring with no Dirk or Dirk ring with no Mavs, I think I'd have to go with the Dirk ring. The guy just deserves it.
For the record, I've been a Mavs fan for approaching 20 years. Jesus, I'm getting old.
Edit: To samoan, I hear ya. The day Dirk retires is going to be just absolutely brutal. I'll probably have to take the day off...maybe talk to a shrink or something that day.
Last edited by vinylstar; 04-05-2010 at 08:02 PM.
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04-05-2010, 09:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vinylstar
If I had to decide between Mavs ring with no Dirk or Dirk ring with no Mavs, I think I'd have to go with the Dirk ring. The guy just deserves it.
For the record, I've been a Mavs fan for approaching 20 years. Jesus, I'm getting old.
Edit: To samoan, I hear ya. The day Dirk retires is going to be just absolutely brutal. I'll probably have to take the day off...maybe talk to a shrink or something that day. ![Smile](images/smilies/smile.gif)
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04-05-2010, 09:56 PM
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Dumb question. I'm a Mavs fan for life, its not possible to be both. I love the mavericks the crisp Kidd passes the alley oops to Roddy B, the sweet Dirk fade away jumper and now the nice hands of Brendan Haywood.
The most complete mavericks team ever? And lets not forget greatness 10 straight fifty win seasons hopefully capped out by an NBA championship.
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04-05-2010, 10:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vinylstar
If I had to decide between Mavs ring with no Dirk or Dirk ring with no Mavs, ....
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That's the good question. Let's edit the poll.
For me it's not difficult in the least - Mavs ring. Whoever is on a Mavs championship team will probably get as much love from me as Dirk does.
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04-05-2010, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin
That's the good question. Let's edit the poll.
For me it's not difficult in the least - Mavs ring. Whoever is on a Mavs championship team will probably get as much love from me as Dirk does.
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That last part I don't agree with. While the Mavs winning a ring period would be incredible, doing so without Dirk.. I don't know, it would feel empty in a sense. Dirk IS the Dallas Mavericks, ya know?
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04-06-2010, 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by twistaeffect2004
That last part I don't agree with. While the Mavs winning a ring period would be incredible, doing so without Dirk.. I don't know, it would feel empty in a sense. Dirk IS the Dallas Mavericks, ya know?
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(First of all, Does anyone actually know who the conceited girl is in your signature? Because I have to say that I do not know who she is.)
Second of all, I would take a ring won by a team full of ringers, chimpanzees, or Antoine Walkers if they were in Mavs uniforms.
I love Dirk more than a heterosexual should, but give me that ring, no matter how it comes.
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04-06-2010, 09:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flacolaco
(First of all, Does anyone actually know who the conceited girl is in your signature? Because I have to say that I do not know who she is.)
Second of all, I would take a ring won by a team full of ringers, chimpanzees, or Antoine Walkers if they were in Mavs uniforms.
I love Dirk more than a heterosexual should, but give me that ring, no matter how it comes.
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04-06-2010, 10:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flacolaco
(First of all, Does anyone actually know who the conceited girl is in your signature? Because I have to say that I do not know who she is.)
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She's not as hot when you discover she can kick your ass...
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04-06-2010, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan
I'm a Mark Cuban fan first and foremost. I assume I'll bolt outta here for the Cubs at some point.
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Haha. This.
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04-06-2010, 10:30 AM
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I was living in Detroit when I got into basketball, so naturally I was a fan of the Bad Boys while they were winning rings. Then the Jordan era happened and I lost all interest in basketball. I moved to Dallas during the 90s, so I didn't have a whole lot of reason to root for the Mavs back then...
Fast forward about a decade and I'm living in Austin - the Spurs are winning rings and everyone who lives there is a Spurs fan. One day I'm drinking beers with a buddy and he turns on a basketball game - Spurs vs Mavs. I hadn't cared about basketball in years, but during that game I was blown away by the electrifying play of Dirk & Nash (they combined for 60 points or something ridiculous like that).
I became a Mavs fan that day, mostly because of Dirk. To me, being a Mavs fan and being a Dirk fan are one in the same.
Like twistaeffect2004 said before, Dirk IS the Mavs...
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04-06-2010, 11:04 AM
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Mavs fan.
Loved the years from Jim Spanarkel on to the present.
Aguirre, Blackman, Davis, Ellis, Harper, etc.....
Aguirre had more post moves than 99% of the players today, and he played SF.
Then they sucked frankly.... and until Finley -- I didn't see much ability.
Fin, Nash and Dirk -- till present has been sweet and I seldom miss games.
I loved the Mavs before Dirk and I am sure I will like them after Dirk. I just don't really like the NBA anymore.
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04-06-2010, 11:55 AM
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For me, it all began when Martin Müürsepp was traded to Mavericks (I'm Estonian). So after Müürsepp career in NBA and in Mavericks was over, I already loved this organisation. Then ofcourse Nowitzki and Nash arrived, with them teaming up Finley, I was sold. So I'm more of a Mavericks fan, then Nowitzki fan. And right now it's easy for me to root for mavs. They have 8 out of my 10 favorite players Dirk, Haywood, Kidd, JJ, Najera, Marion, Stevenson, Roddy (they all were there before trades). So with or without Dirk, MFFL!
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04-06-2010, 12:15 PM
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Where can i enlist for Detlef Schrempf ?
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04-06-2010, 04:50 PM
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Army, Red lobster, craigs list, kung fu and unicorns
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04-06-2010, 05:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dalmations202
Mavs fan.
Loved the years from Jim Spanarkel on to the present.
Aguirre, Blackman, Davis, Ellis, Harper, etc.....
Aguirre had more post moves than 99% of the players today, and he played SF.
Then they sucked frankly.... and until Finley -- I didn't see much ability.
Fin, Nash and Dirk -- till present has been sweet and I seldom miss games.
I loved the Mavs before Dirk and I am sure I will like them after Dirk. I just don't really like the NBA anymore.
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Yeah, his big rump had some major advantages down low..
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04-07-2010, 08:53 AM
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Mavs fan.... can hardly stand to watch a NBA game that isnt the Mavs, so if Dirk left...bye bye. good luck.
And unlike many of you. I'm not dreading the dirkless days. This team is a very long shot from a title. Don't get me wrong, I'm rooting for it, but we'd have to play out of our heads, and I dont know if this team can do that for a whole playoffs. But once this attempt is over, in probably 2 years, we'll have a new era of Mavs. Hopefully it wont take as long as last time to come around, but I'll be here all over again to watch it happen.... GO MAVS!
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04-07-2010, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Underdog
I was living in Detroit when I got into basketball, so naturally I was a fan of the Bad Boys while they were winning rings. Then the Jordan era happened and I lost all interest in basketball. I moved to Dallas during the 90s, so I didn't have a whole lot of reason to root for the Mavs back then...
Fast forward about a decade and I'm living in Austin - the Spurs are winning rings and everyone who lives there is a Spurs fan. One day I'm drinking beers with a buddy and he turns on a basketball game - Spurs vs Mavs. I hadn't cared about basketball in years, but during that game I was blown away by the electrifying play of Dirk & Nash (they combined for 60 points or something ridiculous like that).
I became a Mavs fan that day, mostly because of Dirk. To me, being a Mavs fan and being a Dirk fan are one in the same.
Like twistaeffect2004 said before, Dirk IS the Mavs...
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I love Dirk..but its funny to me that someone says that they are a Mavs fan and then say "Dirk is the Mavs"
If Dirk is the Mavs why dont we send him out there alone everything and see if he gets the 50 wins or any of the accomplishments this team has had by himself?? NOT HAPPENING
Basketball is a team game and Dirk is the best player on this team....but he is NOT the team
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04-07-2010, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by AO41
I love Dirk..but its funny to me that someone says that they are a Mavs fan and then say "Dirk is the Mavs"
If Dirk is the Mavs why dont we send him out there alone everything and see if he gets the 50 wins or any of the accomplishments this team has had by himself?? NOT HAPPENING
Basketball is a team game and Dirk is the best player on this team....but he is NOT the team
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Let me know when this team can win a string of games without Dirk having to score 25+ a night and I might be inclined to agree with you...
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04-07-2010, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Underdog
Let me know when this team can win a string of games without Dirk having to score 25+ a night and I might be inclined to agree with you...
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I am almost sure that there were a couple of games that they won recently that Dirk didnt get into the 20s i could be wrong. But like I said let me know when Dirk can win a gamw without at least 4 other players pout there...doesnt matter how bad you think they are and Ill agree with you
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04-07-2010, 11:38 AM
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But like I said let me know when Dirk can win a gamw without at least 4 other players pout there...doesnt matter how bad you think they are and Ill agree with you ![Wink](images/smilies/wink.gif)
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Isn't that against the rules?
(and missing the point?)
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04-07-2010, 11:40 AM
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Where can i enlist for Detlef Schrempf ?
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Just wanted to write the same. His first team were the Mavs back in 1985. During the 80's I wasn't that much into basketball, I spent most of my time playing soccer. When Schrempf got his b2b 6th man awards (while playing with the Pacers), the Mavs were pretty much in a slump and somehow I got sympathy for them. However, I was still more of a football fan and did not follow the NBA that much until Dirk appeared in the NBA.
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04-07-2010, 11:41 AM
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Isn't that against the rules?
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You and one other person are the ones that stated "Dirk is the team" soo is it against the rules??
Without Dirk this team might not in 50 and might not get too far. But I would give them .500 record and a chance for one of the last spots
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04-07-2010, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by AO41
You and one other person are the ones that stated "Dirk is the team" soo is it against the rules??
Without Dirk this team might not in 50 and might not get too far. But I would give them .500 record and a chance for one of the last spots
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Your translation of "Dirk is the team" is ridiculously literal.
Without Dirk, the Mavs are about on par with the Wizards...
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04-07-2010, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Underdog
Your translation of "Dirk is the team" is ridiculously literal.
Without Dirk, the Mavs are about on par with the Wizards...
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That is such a ridicules statement. They would be more on par with Memphis. And they would be in the hunt for the last playoff spot.
Kidd
Jet
Butler
Marion
Haywood/Damp
is not that bad..and its def. wayy better than the Wizards
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04-07-2010, 02:32 PM
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I can remember fumbling through the paper everyday looking for the sports section just to see if Jim Jackson had finally ended his holdout and signed his rookie contract. Newspapers seem so ridiculous now, but the fact that I cared so much about the sorry ass Mavs seems normal.
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04-07-2010, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jthig32
Are there really that many people on this site that didn't root for the Mavs before Dirk was here?
Wow.
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When I first started playing and watching basketball, it was during the reign of MJ. So obviously every other team / player was secondary. Then he retired. So I started rooting for the home team. It just so happened Dirk came around the same time. So Dirk and Mavs are the same to me.
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04-07-2010, 04:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AO41
That is such a ridicules statement. They would be more on par with Memphis. And they would be in the hunt for the last playoff spot.
Kidd
Jet
Butler
Marion
Haywood/Damp
is not that bad..and its def. wayy better than the Wizards
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haha "ridicules" and "def."
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04-07-2010, 07:10 PM
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I am a huge Dirk fan, and started watching the Mavs because of him, but i'm also a "team guy", and now it's all about the team, really. If Dirk leaves one day (hopefully never happens), i will root for him, and wish him all the best, but not against the Mavs. I think it all depends on what kind of fan culture you're coming from. For example, the american "model" is a little different from the european way. Here, the emphasis is more on the team, than on individuals.
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04-07-2010, 09:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AO41
That is such a ridicules statement. They would be more on par with Memphis. And they would be in the hunt for the last playoff spot.
Kidd
Jet
Butler
Marion
Haywood/Damp
is not that bad..and its def. wayy better than the Wizards
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On paper.. but if you actually watched every game this season, you'd know that isn't true.
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