Postgame Thread: Mavs extend the Magic's streak - Page 2 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

Thespiralgoeson · 12-21-2010, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bayliss

Well maybe my memory is fuzzy but the Mavs pretty much controlled the destiny of the Clippers. And Avery decided to beat them in their last meeting.

That's the way I remember it. I thought the 8th seed was decided by a single game. If Golden State had lost one more game or if the Clippers had lost one more, the Clips would've had the 8th seed. Maybe I was wrong, but that's what I remember.

Thespiralgoeson · 12-21-2010, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan

The Mavs would have had to lose to the Clippers AND beat the Warriors to get the Clippers up to 8th.

It still applies then. Because I remember distinctly Avery riding the starters against the Clippers and then resting them against the Warriors. Not too bright.

BGMaverick9 · 12-21-2010, 10:26 PM

we won so...

BGMaverick9 · 12-21-2010, 10:28 PM

EKS just tweeted that Bird sent a congratulatory text to Carlisle towards Dirk. Later, Dirk received a congratulatory text from Bird himself.

Dirkadirkastan · 12-21-2010, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson

It still applies then. Because I remember distinctly Avery riding the starters against the Clippers and then resting them against the Warriors. Not too bright.

basketball-reference is telling me that it was a two-game difference (42-40 and 40-42). They split the season series so I can't quickly tell who had the tiebreaker.

Jerry Stackhouse · 12-21-2010, 10:37 PM

If the Mavericks need be concerned about 7th or 8th seeded teams they are not championship material.

kg_veteran · 12-21-2010, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerry Stackhouse

If the Mavericks need be concerned about 7th or 8th seeded teams they are not championship material.

The truth.

Dirkadirkastan · 12-21-2010, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Folterkammer

13-3 against +.500 opponents

The only teams they haven't beaten in that category are the Lakers, Knicks, and Bulls. (combined 0-1 record, haven't even played two of them!)

chumdawg · 12-21-2010, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by kg_veteran

The truth.

Was as true then as it is now.

Bayliss · 12-21-2010, 10:45 PM

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If the Mavericks need be concerned about 7th or 8th seeded teams they are not championship material.

Well, this isn't football. Matchups are the most important thing in he NBA. Thje West is flukely because a 7th-8th seed is more like a 4-5 seed in the East.

Dirkadirkastan · 12-21-2010, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bayliss

Well, this isn't football. Matchups are the most important thing in he NBA. Thje West is flukely because a 7th-8th seed is more like a 4-5 seed in the East.

Then why does every single 1st/2nd seed besides the Mavericks always get out of the first round?

fluid.forty.one · 12-21-2010, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

EKS just tweeted that Bird sent a congratulatory text to Carlisle towards Dirk. Later, Dirk received a congratulatory text from Bird himself.

Sweet.

Bayliss · 12-21-2010, 10:51 PM

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Then why does every single 1st/2nd seed besides the Mavericks always get out of the first round?

Well, were the Spurs a real 7th seed last year? There was 5 games separating the Mavs and Spurs last year.

The GS year was a matchup issue. The Mavs hadn't matched up well against them in a long time. People knew that from the start.....

The West this year is going to have a little dropoff. There won't be like 7 teams reach 50 games.

kg_veteran · 12-21-2010, 10:51 PM

If you're a 1 or 2 seed, you should get to the conference finals. Period.

xrobx · 12-21-2010, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerry Stackhouse

If the Mavericks need be concerned about 7th or 8th seeded teams they are not championship material.

i'm not worried about any 7th or 8th seeded teams, or for that matter anyone else in the nba at this point. we've beaten everyone there is to beat besides the lakers, and i'm fully confident that we can and will beat the lakers as well. so i guess that's championship material in my eyes.

chumdawg · 12-21-2010, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan

Then why does every single 1st/2nd seed besides the Mavericks always get out of the first round?

I'm not sure if it is right, but the answer to that would probably be that the Mavs of that year were more vulnerable to matchups than most one-seeds would be, given that Dirk has trouble with certain defenses (see the Denver series) and Avery wasn't any help in counteracting that. Basically, Nellie took Avery's pants down in that matchup, and in another matchup said deficiency would have been moot.

Just a weird coming together of situations, I guess. And certainly not helped by Avery's weird coaching decisions down the stretch (sit the guys against GS, bench Dampier in Game One, insist on Dirk being Duncan, despite the opponent, and on and on).

particleman · 12-21-2010, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by chumdawg

I'm not sure if it is right, but the answer to that would probably be that the Mavs of that year were more vulnerable to matchups than most one-seeds would be, given that Dirk has trouble with certain defenses (see the Denver series) and Avery wasn't any help in counteracting that. Basically, Nellie took Avery's pants down in that matchup, and in another matchup said deficiency would have been moot.

Just a weird coming together of situations, I guess. And certainly not helped by Avery's weird coaching decisions down the stretch (sit the guys against GS, bench Dampier in Game One, insist on Dirk being Duncan, despite the opponent, and on and on).

What Denver series?

Underdog · 12-21-2010, 11:01 PM

We just beat the hell out of 2 of the best teams in the East and you guys are yammering on about a couple of old playoff series?

This team is not those teams. We have a completely different identity now - past performance is not an indicator of future results...

Damn, we look good, even when we don't look as good as we usually do!

BGMaverick9 · 12-21-2010, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

We just beat the hell out of 2 of the best teams in the East and you guys are yammering on about a couple of old playoff series?

This team is not those teams. We have a completely different identity now - past performance is not an indicator of future results...

Damn, we look good, even when we don't look as good as we usually do!

Served

Underdog · 12-21-2010, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

Served

How about those two-handed Chandwood throw downs?

They were furious every time (all 7 of 'em!)

Dirkadirkastan · 12-21-2010, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kg_veteran

If you're a 1 or 2 seed, you should get to the conference finals. Period.

It's hardly shocking when a #3 beats a #2 in the second round, but that's about where it ends.

DirkFTW · 12-21-2010, 11:12 PM

Keep on streaking, Magic!

xrobx · 12-21-2010, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

We just beat the hell out of 2 of the best teams in the East and you guys are yammering on about a couple of old playoff series?

This team is not those teams. We have a completely different identity now - past performance is not an indicator of future results...

Damn, we look good, even when we don't look as good as we usually do!

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Underdog again.

Underdog · 12-21-2010, 11:16 PM

The only major downside I saw tonight: 4 offensive rebounds for the Mavericks, 8 for Dwight Howard...

Dirkadirkastan · 12-21-2010, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

The only major downside I saw tonight: 4 offensive rebounds for the Mavericks, 8 for Dwight Howard...

Meh, Orlando missed more shots.

Underdog · 12-21-2010, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan

Meh, Orlando missed more shots.

Touché...

quietsavant · 12-21-2010, 11:22 PM

Sweep. Sweet.
Nowitzki on FLA sweep: "There are 2 great teams down here but we have said it all year that we are a good road team."

BGMaverick9 · 12-21-2010, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

The only major downside I saw tonight: 4 offensive rebounds for the Mavericks, 8 for Dwight Howard...

Followill was mentioning something along the lines that their percentages are very solid in terms of rebounding.

Hey, we didn't give up 7 ORebs in one possession, progress...

CapitanObvious · 12-21-2010, 11:28 PM

Magic got Mav'd...wait...Did they have a winning streak to be Mav'd?

Dirkadirkastan · 12-21-2010, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CapitanObvious

Magic got Mav'd...wait...Did they have a winning streak to be Mav'd?

Their streak is now 4, if you know what I'm saying.

Underdog · 12-21-2010, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

Followill was mentioning something along the lines that their percentages are very solid in terms of rebounding.

Hey, we didn't give up 7 ORebs in one possession, progress...

Well, we were only out-rebounded 40-38 in this game, but the offensive rebounds we didn't get bother me more than the ones we gave up - I expect to give some up in the zone, but we still need to pull down more second chances on the other end...

(although our 50% shooting tonight might've had something to do with it...)

CapitanObvious · 12-21-2010, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan

Their streak is now 4, if you know what I'm saying.

Oh you.

LonghornDub · 12-22-2010, 12:06 AM

A physics lesson from the Magic announcers, after Hedo's missed dunk in the 4th: "He was pushed in the back by Nowitzki and Kidd. That's why the dunk was short."

Science.

jcm28 · 12-22-2010, 12:09 AM

Is it too early to get excited about our playoff possibilities?

grndmstr_c · 12-22-2010, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

A physics lesson from the Magic announcers, after Hedo's missed dunk in the 4th: "He was pushed in the back by Nowitzki and Kidd. That's why the dunk was short."

Science.

If I never have to listen to those Orlando announcers again it'll be too soon. What a pair of douche-bags.

LonghornDub · 12-22-2010, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by FINtastic

It kind of sucks that we are on pace for 67 wins right now, and yet we are still 1.5 games back in our division.

It's crazy, but I'm honestly not at all sure I even want the Mavs to finish #1 in the conference. The extra home-game is nice (though not even guaranteed), but this team comes into evenly matched series in such a better mindset when they aren't expected to win.

Picturing it now, I like the Mavs' chances much better to steal a Game 1 or 2 in SA or LA than to win both of the first two at home against either of those teams. Either way you're 1-1, but the difference in momentum is huge.

chumdawg · 12-22-2010, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

It's crazy, but I'm honestly not at all sure I even want the Mavs to finish #1 in the conference. The extra home-game is nice (though not even guaranteed), but this team comes into evenly matched series in such a better mindset when they aren't expected to win.

Picturing it now, I like the Mavs' chances much better to steal a Game 1 or 2 in SA or LA than to win both of the first two at home against either of those teams. Either way you're 1-1, but the difference in momentum is huge.

Let's not get crazy. I'd a lot rather have that Game Seven at home than not have it.

LonghornDub · 12-22-2010, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by grndmstr_c

If I never have to listen to those Orlando announcers again it'll be too soon. What a pair of douche-bags.

Agreed. And the Heat announcers are so, so good, in my opinion, so it was night and day last night versus tonight.

LonghornDub · 12-22-2010, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by chumdawg

Let's not get crazy. I'd a lot rather have that Game Seven at home than not have it.

I didn't say to the contrary. But there are other considerations besides "Game 7 at home," which isn't even close to a sure thing to occur. The strong majority of contested playoff series (forward-looking) don't even go to 7 games.

chumdawg · 12-22-2010, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

I didn't say to the contrary. But there are other considerations besides "Game 7 at home," which isn't even close to a sure thing to occur. The strong majority of contested playoff series (forward-looking) don't even go to 7 games.

And the strong majority of those go to the home team.