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Old 01-29-2007, 11:03 PM   #41
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that will be your one bright spot this season KG, savor it
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Old 01-29-2007, 11:11 PM   #43
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Get behind me sucka's.
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Old 01-29-2007, 11:14 PM   #44
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LOL Walton just picked the Suns over Miami in the finals.
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ESPN just compared the Suns winning streak to Federer and Wood's streaks.
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LOL Walton just picked the Suns over Miami in the finals.
Walton can't pick his ass correctly.
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F the Suns and their no defense playing mvp.
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LOL Walton just picked the Suns over Miami in the finals.
The kiss of death!!!
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walton couldnt pronounce "cavaliers"...go back to your shrooms and protesting the nixon administration
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I'm pretty sure the Mavs were nowhere close to winning 19 in a row last year.... since 14 is the team record and that was set to begin the season the year they first went back to the WCF's..
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unless they lose to SA, Utah, or LA....this is no biggie....they'll just start another huge streak...95% of the league just can't slow them down and 100% can't keep up...
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It is a biggie... Every loss that they accumulate is a biggie. These are two regular season heavyweights. The Mavs need every edge that they can get. Tonight, they got a huge break. Why in the world would you say that this is no biggie?
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Agree murph...these two teams aren't going to lose many at all. One more in the conference column is a good.
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Wow the Suns lost???

what happened? weren't they able to get key stops in the 4th quarter? bc thats what good teams do, and theyre the best according to everyone. right?
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Perhaps clarification is needed. To the Suns this one loss will not affect their overall team confidence and stellar play or the national media’s sterling opinion and open love fest of them. I obviously agree that every loss for a (THE) rival is good for the Mavs chances of winning the West.
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HALELUJA!!!!!! THERE IS A GOD! What's funny is the last few teams that have actually won 18 straight games in a row have all won the championship....
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I really don't care about the national media at all, they are usually clueless about most of everything, basketball included.

This will effect their confidence, not a lot, but it'll effect them. Every loss does.
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Uh, not quite. The Mavs' longest win-streak last year was 13.

Anyway, it's about damn time the Suns lost a game. Hopefully over the next few we can pick up another game or two on them.

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So does this mean Nash has to give back his MVP from this year?


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This will effect their confidence, not a lot, but it'll effect them. Every loss does.
eh. we'll see.
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Wow the Suns lost???

what happened? weren't they able to get key stops in the 4th quarter? bc thats what good teams do, and theyre the best according to everyone. right?
What happens when Dallas loses? When anyone loses?

Man you people are harsh.

The Wolves HAD to shoot 60 percent to win. Garnett was unstoppable and the Suns were playing their 5th game in 7 nights.

Yet it was still anybody's game inside of 5 minutes.
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ESPN just compared the Suns winning streak to Federer and Wood's streaks.
Hopefully that comparison was very unfavorable to the Suns, as the recent performances of Federer and Woods dwarf what the Suns have accomplished to this point (since it does not involve winning a title of any type).

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What happens when Dallas loses? When anyone loses?

Man you people are harsh.

The Wolves HAD to shoot 60 percent to win. Garnett was unstoppable and the Suns were playing their 5th game in 7 nights.

Yet it was still anybody's game inside of 5 minutes.
yeah, I'll take 17-1 any day

of course I was happy with the Mavs 21-22
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What happens when Dallas loses? When anyone loses?

Man you people are harsh.

The Wolves HAD to shoot 60 percent to win. Garnett was unstoppable and the Suns were playing their 5th game in 7 nights.

Yet it was still anybody's game inside of 5 minutes.
Regardless of the reasons, a loss is a loss. Does it surprise you that Mavs' fans are happy that the Suns now have just as many losses as the Mavs?

On an unrelated note, is there any reason why Amare wasn't trying to check KG down the stretch? Marion isn't big enough to give KG much trouble in the post, or at least he wasn't tonight. It would seem that the next guy to step up to try to cool KG off would be Amare. Any thoughts (from Suns' fans or non-Suns' fans)?
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Regardless of the reasons, a loss is a loss. Does it surprise you that Mavs' fans are happy that the Suns now have just as many losses as the Mavs?

On an unrelated note, is there any reason why Amare wasn't trying to check KG down the stretch? Marion isn't big enough to give KG much trouble in the post, or at least he wasn't tonight. It would seem that the next guy to step up to try to cool KG off would be Amare. Any thoughts (from Suns' fans or non-Suns' fans)?
Garnett was hitting fadeaway's all night. He had very few layups and dunks. He was spinning back away from double teams and nailing them all.

We sure could've used Kurt Thomas..
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What happens when Dallas loses? When anyone loses?

Man you people are harsh.

The Wolves HAD to shoot 60 percent to win. Garnett was unstoppable and the Suns were playing their 5th game in 7 nights.

Yet it was still anybody's game inside of 5 minutes.
Earlier this season during one of our win streaks we played 5 games in 7 nights I believe, and it didn't affect us.

And to say that they "had to shoot 60 percent" is lame. They did, and the suns lost.

That's like me saying "chicago HAD to hold us to 30% shooting to beat us, and even then we were still close in the last 5 min!!". I mean that's all fine and true, but a loss is a loss.
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ESPN just compared the Suns winning streak to Federer and Wood's streaks.
The Tiger and FedEx should start thinking about legal actions...that's insane to put the Suns in their class...
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Earlier this season during one of our win streaks we played 5 games in 7 nights I believe, and it didn't affect us.

And to say that they "had to shoot 60 percent" is lame. They did, and the suns lost.

That's like me saying "chicago HAD to hold us to 30% shooting to beat us, and even then we were still close in the last 5 min!!". I mean that's all fine and true, but a loss is a loss.
I'm really not trying to be defensive, because you're right, they lost.

But look at it this way -

The Suns

- shot 50 percent as a team

- made 15 3's at a 41 percent clip

- shot 92 percent from the line

- had 6 players score in double figures

- had only 14 turnovers

Most nights a line like that equals "win".

So where Dallas could look at Chicago and say "We beat ourselves" the Suns just have to tip their hat to the Wolves. They got outscored. It's bound to happen on occasion.

Had the Wolves shot their normal 45 percent, the Suns win. Heck 50 percent. Typically, they hold their opponent to around 43 percent. This was their worst opp FG% of the season.

Oh and BTW, the Suns also swept a 5 in 7 stint this season during THEIR first streak too.

Mavs fans are understandably happy that the Suns lost, but I get the feeling that most here attribute the streak to luck anyway.

It takes more than luck to win 17 straight.
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That is one heckuva an observation dirka. I totally didn't see it until you mentioned it.
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I'm really not trying to be defensive, because you're right, they lost.

But look at it this way -

The Suns

- shot 50 percent as a team

- made 15 3's at a 41 percent clip

- shot 92 percent from the line

- had 6 players score in double figures

- had only 14 turnovers

Most nights a line like that equals "win".

So where Dallas could look at Chicago and say "We beat ourselves" the Suns just have to tip their hat to the Wolves. They got outscored. It's bound to happen on occasion.

Had the Wolves shot their normal 45 percent, the Suns win. Heck 50 percent. Typically, they hold their opponent to around 43 percent. This was their worst opp FG% of the season.

Oh and BTW, the Suns also swept a 5 in 7 stint this season during THEIR first streak too.

Mavs fans are understandably happy that the Suns lost, but I get the feeling that most here attribute the streak to luck anyway.

It takes more than luck to win 17 straight.
But wait. Dallas has to give some credit to the Chicago Defense for keeping them at 30%.
And Minny should give some credit to the Suns defense.

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Old 01-30-2007, 10:33 AM   #77
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It takes more than luck to win 17 straight.
And it takes more than luck to be the 1st place team in the league, esp after someone just got off a 17 game winning streak.
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The Tiger and FedEx should start thinking about legal actions...that's insane to put the Suns in their class...
Yeah I couldn't believe. Walton was even on a pro-suns rampage at the time and he picked Federer's streak as the most impressive and didn't even acknowledge that the Suns were one of the options.
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I'm really not trying to be defensive, because you're right, they lost.

But look at it this way -

The Suns

- shot 50 percent as a team

- made 15 3's at a 41 percent clip

- shot 92 percent from the line

- had 6 players score in double figures

- had only 14 turnovers

Most nights a line like that equals "win".

So where Dallas could look at Chicago and say "We beat ourselves" the Suns just have to tip their hat to the Wolves. They got outscored. It's bound to happen on occasion.

Had the Wolves shot their normal 45 percent, the Suns win. Heck 50 percent. Typically, they hold their opponent to around 43 percent. This was their worst opp FG% of the season.

Oh and BTW, the Suns also swept a 5 in 7 stint this season during THEIR first streak too.

Mavs fans are understandably happy that the Suns lost, but I get the feeling that most here attribute the streak to luck anyway.

It takes more than luck to win 17 straight.
Great point. Any team with those stats be the end of a game is going to get a win more times then not. KG was just a monster last night and hit everything. It was one of those nights where nobody was going to stop him. It didn't matter what team he was playing or who was guarding him. That's what is great about the NBA. No matter how good of a team you are, you can lose on even given night if one of your stars goes crazy.
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It takes more than luck to win 17 straight.
what is the point here? The suns are a better than 100% lucky team? because that is just dumb.

I don't think anyone here isn't saying the Suns aren't a top 3 team...and most would say top 2.
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