11-21-2006, 12:06 PM
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Just watch Eragon... It should be awesome...(Not that I wouldnt be all over the hobbit if they made it)
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11-21-2006, 12:50 PM
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11-30-2006, 03:25 PM
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Jackson is Lord of Tolkien again
November 28, 2006
LORD OF THE RINGS director PETER JACKSON WILL direct the highly-anticipated prequel, The Hobbit.
There was uproar last week when New Line Cinema bosses told the King Kong director he was "no longer needed" in the making of The Hobbit and another unnamed Lord Of The Rings prequel.
Jackson - originally given the boot due to legal disputes over royalties - now has the thumbs up thanks to film producer SAUL ZAENTZ (One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest).
Zaentz, who owns the screen rights to Tolkien Enterprises, said: “(The Hobbit) will definitely be shot by Peter Jackson.
“Next year, The Hobbit rights will fall back to my company.
“I suppose that Peter will wait because he knows that he will make the best deal with us. And he is fed up with the studios.
“To get his profit share on the Rings trilogy, he had to sue New Line. With us, he knows that he will be paid fairly and artistically supported without reservation.”
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11-30-2006, 03:30 PM
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sweet.....so sweet.
So what? only about 5 years to wait now right?
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11-30-2006, 07:56 PM
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is there a timetable?
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11-30-2006, 09:42 PM
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before Ian McKellan dies
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12-18-2007, 03:15 PM
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Update a year later....
W00t!!!!
http://www.eonline.com/news/article/...rss_topstories
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The One Ring continues to rule them all.
New Line Cinema and Peter Jackson have made nice in their blood fued over The Lord of the Rings royalties, paving the way for the Oscar-winning filmmaker to oversee an epic version of The Hobbit.
"I'm very pleased that we've been able to put our differences behind us, so that we may begin a new chapter with our old friends at New Line," Jackson said in a statement Tuesday. "We are delighted to continue our journey through Middle Earth."
Jackson and his on- and offscreen partner Fran Walsh sued New Line in 2005, claiming the studio cooked the books and seriously shortchanged the couple for a franchise that looted $3 billion at the worldwide box office and won a clutch of Oscars.
The filmmaker had even issued a statement saying the ill will would keep him from shooting The Hobbit, the J.R.R. Tolkein adventure about Bilbo Baggins and his ring-discovering, dragon-conquering quest that serves as a launchpad for the LOTR series. And to the chagrin of fans, New Line boss Bob Shaye said he'd find someone else to direct.
The project festered in development and faced an uncertain future, especically with would-be stars like Ian McKellen, who received an Oscar nod for playing LOTR's Gandalf, a part that figures prominently in The Hobbit, publicly stated their support for Jackson.
But fans held out hope as MGM honcho Harry Sloan said he was committed to brokering a truce between the warring parties and bring The Hobbit to the big screen. MGM has a big stake in the film's success, because the studio controls the distribution rights.
"Peter Jackson has proven himself as the filmmaker who can bring the extraordinary imagination of Tolkien to life and we full heartedly agree with the fans worldwide who know he should be making The Hobbit," Sloan, MGM's chairman and CEO, said Tuesday.
In September, a key ruling in the case went against New Line, with many observers predicting it would end the impasse between Jackson and the studio.
All the while, New Line has seen its own fortunes falter. Its latest expensive fantasy gamble, The Golden Compass, has underperformed at the box office and the studio has yet to greenlight the other two films in the prospective trilogy.
Financial terms of the settlement were not disclosed, but all parties expressed happiness the row was over.
"We are very pleased we have been able to resolve our differences, and that Peter and Fran will be actively and creatively involved with The Hobbit," said Shaye. "We know they will bring the same passion, care and talent to these films that they so ably accomplished with The Lord of the Rings."
"Now that we are all in agreement on The Hobbit, we can focus on assembling the production team that will capture this phenomenal tale on film," Sloan added.
It is not clear what specific roles Jackson and Walsh will play. The joint press release simply says the couple, who also produced and cowrote LOTR, will serve as executive producers of The Hobbit and "manage the production."
Jackson already has his hands full, shooting his adaptation of The Lovely Bones and with Tintin on the docket for next fall, so he apparently won't helm The Hobbit. There's no word on who will adapt The Hobbit, which will be divided into two parts for the big screen.
Likewise, no casting has been announced. Of the key actors in LOTR, only McKellen, Ian Holm (Bilbo) and Andy Serkis (Gollum) figure in The Hobbit's storyline.
Once those details get ironed out, production will begin "as soon as possible." Like LOTR, both halves of The Hobbit will be shot simultaneously. Principal photography is tentatively set for a 2009 start, with MGM and New Line splitting the costs and sharing distribution duties.
The first film is slated for 2010 and its sequel in theaters the following year.
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Even if he can't direct, at least he can be involved.
Now get McKellen, Serkis, Weaving, and a newer Bilbo and get it done!!
2 more trips to middle earth would do me some good. That is, if the writers strike ever ends.
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12-18-2007, 06:29 PM
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I thought this thread had something to do with J.J.
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12-18-2007, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by rmacomic
I thought this thread had something to do with J.J.
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12-18-2007, 06:55 PM
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so if they shoot in 09...that means we won't get the first installment until....11?
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12-18-2007, 08:15 PM
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so if they shoot in 09...that means we won't get the first installment until....11?
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You didn't read the very last line of the article.
2010....assuming the strike ever gets over with that is.
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12-19-2007, 09:30 AM
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so why couldn't holm still do this? not a big enough name?
remember, bilbo hardly aged between the hobbit and fellowship of the ring, due to his wearing of the ring.
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12-19-2007, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Big Boy Laroux
so why couldn't holm still do this? not a big enough name?
remember, bilbo hardly aged between the hobbit and fellowship of the ring, due to his wearing of the ring.
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I'd assume they still want to make Bilbo a bit younger-looking, just so the average moviegoer would understand that this story happened in the past...
Plus, Ian Holm is probably too old as an actor to be up to the physical challenges that the role will demand (afterall, Bilbo got into more rough-and-tumble situations than Frodo did - lots of running & stumbling about in the dark & whatnot...)
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12-19-2007, 09:47 AM
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so why couldn't holm still do this? not a big enough name?
remember, bilbo hardly aged between the hobbit and fellowship of the ring, due to his wearing of the ring.
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You're right about that, however....
Consider the following: Hobbits come of age at 33. This is how old Frodo was at the date of the party. 17 years pass between the party and Frodo setting out for Rivendell. This makes Frodo 51 years old for the movie portrayal.
Bilbo was also 51 at the start of "The Hobbit." This is of course, no coincidence.
So you have Holm portraying a 111 year old hobbit who "hasn't aged a day" since he was 51, and a 51 year old hobbit in Frodo portrayed by the boyish Elijah Wood.
I would think that in an effort to portray him as being "Frodos age" to a general movie going public, you would cast a different actor. Too bad though, I loved Holm as Bilbo.
/nerd rant off
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12-19-2007, 10:45 AM
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from a true understanding of the book, holm could still work, even though he's aged what, 7 years since fellowship came out?
but you're right, for the general movie-going public, it would be confusing. they never said, in the Fellowship movie, that 17 years passed before frodo left (that also would have been confusing).
But that also gets me thinking... So if Frodo wasn't so damn lazy, he could have gone to mount doom before all the crap hit the fan.
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12-19-2007, 12:30 PM
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So I'm a bit confused. Why 2 movies? IF that's because they want to get all of the content of the original novel into movie format and will take that into 2 parts I applaud them. I have been racking my brain since yesterday when I first heard about it thinking if that's the case where would be the stopping point for the first movie? (I just right there almost went on a rampage about the ending of Fellowship, but I won't recant that here....)
Now if this first movie is the actual book, and the 2nd something made up then let me be the first to say that I hope it fails.
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12-19-2007, 12:53 PM
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i read that there was the possibility of ading some stories from the silmarillion.
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12-19-2007, 01:39 PM
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Given their ambitious time table, and the fact that they've said that both will be shot concurrently, I would think that they are going to split "The Hobbit" into two parts. There is more than enough material.
Interesting question u2....
I think that I would end it with the capture by the wood elves, as a sort of cliff hanger. I think there's a sufficient amount of things after that to make a second movie, and probably more than enough before for the 1st.
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12-19-2007, 01:45 PM
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Samwise > All hobbits.
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12-19-2007, 03:00 PM
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So if Frodo wasn't so damn lazy, he could have gone to mount doom before all the crap hit the fan.
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He was smoking too much Southfarthing back in those days... (that Longbottom leaf will mess you up!)
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12-19-2007, 03:48 PM
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is the Longbottom in Harry Potter a homage to Tolkien by any chance?
has anyone ever heard?
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12-19-2007, 04:18 PM
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U2, here is nerdville. It will answer some of the questions you have.
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03-28-2008, 02:34 PM
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McKellen Hopes for Role in 'Hobbit'
March 28, 2008, 11:35 AM EST
WELLINGTON, New Zealand (AP) -- Ian McKellen, who played Gandalf the Wizard in the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy, is hoping to reprise the role in another tale from Middle Earth.
A fan asked McKellen on the actor's official Web site if he would play the role of Gandalf in "The Hobbit," which is being produced by Peter Jackson, director of the "Rings" trilogy.
"Yes, I will, if Peter Jackson and I have anything to do with it, he being the producer and me being, on the whole, a very lucky actor," McKellen, 68, said in a reply dated Wednesday.
Jackson reached a deal with New Line Cinema late last year to make two films of J.R.R. Tolkien's "The Hobbit," a planned prequel to the blockbuster "Rings" trilogy. Jackson will serve as executive producer for the "Hobbit" movies.
Another fan asked: "Have you been approached yet by Peter Jackson or anyone else" to play the ancient Wizard?
McKellen replied: "Encouragingly, Peter and (partner) Fran Walsh have told me they couldn't imagine `The Hobbit' without their original Gandalf."
"Their confidence hasn't yet been confirmed by the director Guillermo del Toro, but I am keeping my diary free for 2009!" he said.
Del Toro's manager, Gary Ungar, told The Associated Press on Friday that del Toro, director of "Pan's Labyrinth" and "Hellboy," is being considered for the "Hobbit" films.
"It's still under discussion, (but) yes," he said.
He declined to give any details, but when asked about an announcement timeline, he said: "I hope it resolves soon. .... Everybody has to agree in everything."
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Any chance this isn't going to be pure unadulterated gold?
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04-30-2008, 12:44 PM
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gooooooooooooood neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeews
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06-12-2009, 09:33 PM
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Ugh, I wanted to shove a pencil into my brain during the last LOTR movie. I think I'll pass on the Hobbit.
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06-12-2009, 10:43 PM
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BLASPHEMER!
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06-12-2009, 10:56 PM
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BOOOOOOO!
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06-15-2009, 05:21 PM
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07-20-2009, 09:47 AM
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This movie is going to live or die based on who they cast as Bilbo...
Consensus choice - Martin Freeman (The Office [UK], Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy)
Would he work as a young Ian Holm?
Yes? No? Maybe?
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07-20-2009, 10:08 AM
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Well...I don't think they're casting someone with the thought of them being a young Ian Holm...nor should they.
Personally, I love Martin Freeman. I think I only know him from Hitchhikers, but he was the perfect Arthur Dent.
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07-20-2009, 10:13 AM
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In the spirit of multiculturalism:
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07-20-2009, 10:40 AM
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that would be an interesting idea, dirkFTW. I like it.
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07-20-2009, 11:59 AM
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gotta spread some rep around, UD, but great post. Freeman even looks like a hobbit.
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10-22-2010, 10:21 AM
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I really liked him in Hitchhikers and The Office. Glad to see he hasn't fallen off the map...
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10-22-2010, 10:23 AM
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So I heard they've moved the release date up to November of 2016
Seriously...are they going to make this movie or what? Now they're not even shooting in New Zealand because of some stupid union bs. (the idiocy of unions strikes again...)
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10-22-2010, 10:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Underdog
This movie is going to live or die based on who they cast as Bilbo...
Consensus choice - Martin Freeman (The Office [UK], Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy)
Would he work as a young Ian Holm?
Yes? No? Maybe?
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Bingo-bango, guess who just got cast as Bilbo?
(called this one over a year ago!)
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