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Old 02-18-2008, 01:54 AM   #41
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Kobe's thumb...

Shaq's speed/stamina...

The Spurs' injuries/age......


Who beats us out for the #1 spot again?


(okay, maybe I'm getting a bit ahead of myself here...)
Everyone says Suns in the West Seedings Thread, except me.
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Old 02-18-2008, 01:54 AM   #42
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Me and Sike are cool man. I get where you're coming from though.

Another sucker for Sike's charms...

Friggin' Martian Don Juan...
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Old 02-18-2008, 01:55 AM   #43
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Kobe's thumb...

Shaq's speed/stamina...

The Spurs' injuries/age......


Who beats us out for the #1 spot again?


(okay, maybe I'm getting a bit ahead of myself here...)
I may be overestimating him, but I really still think kobe can be consistent enough to keep that team in the top 3 or 4.
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Old 02-18-2008, 02:00 AM   #44
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Another sucker for Sike's charms...

Friggin' Martian Don Juan...
Boy, no joke. Everyone is angling for a little of that Sike love.
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D. Williams: 13/20, 41 points, 7 assists
D. Williams: 7/15, 17 points, 7 rebounds, 12 assists
Okay, how long before Deron Williams is officially the best PG in the league? Who stands in his way? Nash? Kidd? Davis? Parker? Paul? Of those, I'd argue that the only player you could make a clear-cut case for would be Nash. Man, this guy's getting better so fast it's scary...
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Boy, no joke. Everyone is angling for a little of that Sike love.
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Okay, how long before Deron Williams is officially the best PG in the league? Who stands in his way? Nash? Kidd? Davis? Parker? Paul? Of those, I'd argue that the only player you could make a clear-cut case for would be Nash. Man, this guy's getting better so fast it's scary...
I think you need to watch more Chris Paul video.
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Okay, how long before Deron Williams is officially the best PG in the league? Who stands in his way? Nash? Kidd? Davis? Parker? Paul? Of those, I'd argue that the only player you could make a clear-cut case for would be Nash. Man, this guy's getting better so fast it's scary...
also..this is the type of guy that ate Devin's lunch...tough and physical...not a finesse guy like Parker or Nash.
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I think you need to watch more Chris Paul video.
I think right now I'd take williams over paul
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I think right now I'd take williams over paul
I know that's conventional wisdom, and this doesn't prove anything, but Williams has gotten the better of their head-to-head matchups. Also, Williams absolutely destroyed him in their last matchup.

Although their stats are eerily close, Williams is stronger, and he's a better defender. And, he's getting to the foul line more this year.

For whatever reason, I just see him as getting better a faster rate.
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I know that's conventional wisdom, and this doesn't prove anything, but Williams has gotten the better of their head-to-head matchups. Also, Williams absolutely destroyed him in their last matchup.

Although their stats are eerily close, Williams is stronger, and he's a better defender. And, he's getting to the foul line more this year.

For whatever reason, I just see him as getting better a faster rate.
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I would take Paul over Williams and not even really think real hard about it.

Paul is shouldering a lot of pressure for the New Orleans squad, and really, just look at the results of the team.

I think Paul has a lot more to offer in the leadership department.
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bc williams is not leading the Jazz?

I'm not sure I've seen enough of either to make a determination about their leadership...

but I like Williams' game better as a stronger point guard.
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I think Sloan is the leader of the Jazz.
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and B. Scott is just playing pocket pool, I guess?
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and B. Scott is just playing pocket pool, I guess?
I know you're kidding around to an extent, but certainly you would agree that different coaches have different styles?

I see Byron being a lot more laid back, allowing his players to lead.
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I just haven't seen enough to know with any certainty that one is a better leader than the other...

they both seem like tough minded young leaders to me...that is all I'm saying...that, and..you smell like mold.

One could argue that Williams has taken on a Sloan like attitude by being under that great coach. I'm certainly not arguing that all coaches have the same style
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